Just now, Marry The Gods said:

- Mariah Carey was 39 pushing 40 when Touch My Body and her album E=MC2 both went #1. Beautiful was also a cute little hit for Mariah at 44 years old. 

- Cher was 52 years old when Believe went #1.

- Madonna was 47 years old during the successful Confessions On A Dance Floor era which also delivered one of her best tours. She is currently on a world tour still doing her thing.

- P!nk doesn't really have many recent hits but she still has successful tours which is more than enough to keep her going.

- Beyonce was 40 years old went Break My Soul single and Renaissance album both went #1, she was 41 years old when Cuff it became a streaming hit and landed #6 on the Billboard Hot 100 and she is currently 42 years old touring the album. 

 

I'm aware that ageism and misogyny is still rampant in the industry but let's stop acting like all women are guaranteed to flop once they hit 40 years old. It's undoubtedly more difficult to get hits but with the right material it is still possible as proven from the women I listed. I have no doubt Gaga can still get hits here and there during her 40s it just depends on how she handles her next era. Her team really need to get it together for the album campaign. 

I was about to bring up COADF too.

 

Didn't Sia snatch several hits in her 40s as well?

Pop culture seems to be more open to entertainers in their 40s, 50s, etc. than ever before. Michelle Yeoh's Best Actress win this year made this pretty evident.

 

People are also streaming older material extensively, giving veterans somewhat of an advantage. Gaga can still score more hits/hit eras. It really just boils down to how she executes and how much effort she puts into her work.

 

2 hours ago, DonnieDarko said:

She has plenty of ballads, jazz songs and a whole album (ASIB) to show off her voice, also even her last studio album had some of her very best vocals despite being inspired by house music. I think she already showed people she’s an amazing singer and doesn’t need to release more acoustic songs but that’s just me. And definitely not Adele or Celine Dion type of songs, nope.

Agree. There are so many genres and ways in which she can showcase her vocals and raw talent. And when I think about why I love Gaga and why she's a legend in the way she is, it's because of her bold artistic voice, willingness to take a risk, and the fact that she's stood for actual things during her career. Her doing a bunch of generic AC rehashes is so at odds with what makes her such an once in a generation artist. And frankly, it would be below her level as a musician. Everyone knows that she's capable of more than imitating Adele. 

 

Also, it's not at all crazy to say that she can release projects that lean into her uniqueness/artistic vision and display the raw talent that gained her so much respect in recent years. 

"Since I was 13 years old" 

A compilation of important characters, special events, and stories that shaped my life at the age of 13. 

1 hour ago, Aden said:

Pop culture seems to be more open to entertainers in their 40s, 50s, etc. than ever before. Michelle Yeoh's Best Actress win this year made this pretty evident.

her film career is still thriving on a high tho moreso than her music

1 hour ago, EnigmaticAndroid said:

Also, it's not at all crazy to say that she can release projects that lean into her uniqueness/artistic vision and display the raw talent that gained her so much respect in recent years. 

Wait now you're saying ballads are ineffective at displaying uniqueness and artistic vision? That's not so. And you're saving that ballads are ineffective at displaying raw talent? Quite the opposite in fact. Only those that are great talents can carry ballads or acoustic music.

1 hour ago, EnigmaticAndroid said:

Also, it's not at all crazy to say that she can release projects that lean into her uniqueness/artistic vision and display the raw talent that gained her so much respect in recent years. 

Wait now you're saying ballads are ineffective at displaying uniqueness and artistic vision? That's not so. And you're saving that ballads are ineffective at displaying raw talent? Quite the opposite in fact. Only those that are great talents can carry ballads or acoustic music.

3 hours ago, John Slayne said:

wym wasted, she's one of the biggest artists in history 

 

Gag ha for me 

 

 

2 hours ago, Artur said:

Replay +33.591 / +27.6% compared to last week

 

 

That jump, what's happening?!

People are finally waking up 

 

1 hour ago, JohnWayneHolland said:

People are finally waking up 

 

Would be awesome if this was some kind of Halloween boost, but it's probably just Spotify changing its algorithm 

 

The way Godga would DEVOUR if she served an album sonically like Post.

 

 

 

 

50 minutes ago, Artur said:

Would be awesome if this was some kind of Halloween boost, but it's probably just Spotify changing its algorithm 

 

Tomorrow: Replay - 500k streams

 

I feel it in my bones

 

 

7 hours ago, Artur said:

It's incredible how The Nurtec Monster has no lows

 

It’s so painful when I always rank Teeth last cause it’s like a 9.5/10. I can write a thesis about how TFM is the best female pop album (and era) of all time 

 

Why do some of you make the argument that Gaga's ballads are "just like Adele's" when it's completely not true. Not in style, vocal delivery, notes. 

 

Gaga overall has very distinct 70s mid tempo pop ballad style, which is why the Elton influence makes sense, and some of the ASIB material very deliberately feels inspired by the 90s ballad queens, but still very Gaga.

I don't think putting all your cards on Joker: FAD is super smart. The movie can flop, it can smash but have a flop award season, Gaga could be DRAGGED and nominated for a Razzie (it's happened to the greatest), she could smash award season and the movie could smash the box office but the soundtrack could be a flop, her movie and her acting and the soundtrack could all three flop and then what? 

 

Next year, after a year of anticipation we get a flop movie, flop soundtrack consisting entirely of Jazz covers and flop acting and then have to wait another year for her new album. It would be kinda hilarious though but let's hope not 

Not Michelle Yeoh’s Oscar win being proof that Gen Z is into older entertainers. Ageism is as bad as ever.

Yeah I’d expect the movie to do well but the soundtrack to not make noise 

36 minutes ago, JaXXXon said:

I don't think putting all your cards on Joker: FAD is super smart. The movie can flop, it can smash but have a flop award season, Gaga could be DRAGGED and nominated for a Razzie (it's happened to the greatest), she could smash award season and the movie could smash the box office but the soundtrack could be a flop, her movie and her acting and the soundtrack could all three flop and then what? 

lbr HOG was way more of a recipe for disaster (the accents, release date during the peak of Covid, films messy pacing, the awards szn villain by most pundits & fimbros) if she survived all that, then reckon JFAD will be fine, at worst it’ll replicate a similar run to Wakanda Forever

Edited October 18, 20232 yr by hausofdave

No new ballads for a couple of years, please. Maybe one attached to each of her next 3 albums (which will be full of up and mid tempos). Gaga can save them for when she is in her late 40s.

 

55 minutes ago, luckythisway said:

It’s so painful when I always rank Teeth last cause it’s like a 9.5/10. I can write a thesis about how TFM is the best female pop album (and era) of all time 

 

It really is. No wonder why it's one of the most streamed albums of its time while only having 8 tracks.

 

 

Honestly though, most of her albums would've been masterpieces with 8-10 tracks max. We already discussed this, but one thing that really drag her records down is the amount of mid-bad songs in them.

 

 

 

Idk why some liddos act like it’s either one or the other when it comes to ballads, that Gaga doing ballads means a full album of ballads or doing up-tempo means a full album of up-tempo. She can do both on the same album like she has several times.

 

2 hours ago, JohnWayneHolland said:

Tomorrow: Replay - 500k streams

 

I feel it in my bones

 

 

Joker 2 sounds good to me. The story has a built in compelling plot: an asylum/prison break. The screenwriter has potential to have written something good, he has a pretty good track record (which was not the case with HOG). The director does too. I like its comparison to the Coppola movie. I like the look of that movie. She has proven she's a good actress. Joaquin obviously will be good too. And now we have SSOH that shows she is in top singing form, since that song was done the same time she was recording J2. I would be surprised with all that that it woudnt be at least good, which means it should do well at the box office too.

Gaga shouldn't release another ballad album... especially when her next pop album will likely be her last major release of her thirties.