1 hour ago, HeavyMetalAura said:

So having the opinion that Chromatica didn’t meet our expectations or align with Gaga’s previous artistry means that we don’t go outside and have social lives?? Unhinged comment  ATRL is truly an alternative universe.

 

There is certainly someone who needs to touch grass here but it doesn’t have anything to do with our music opinions…

I mean I hate both extremes that Chromatica was either this huge success (not true) and her best album (not true; though it's subjective) OR that it was her biggest flop (not true) and her WORST album (not true again but still subjective, I accept the "it's my least fav album of her")

 

Chromatica was middle of the road album, commercially it was underwhelming after the first weeks peak and it had no legs... it barely outdid Joanne in UK weeks and that's the type of album they consume way more, in US it failed to outperform it, on Spotify it fell short too... 2.3B after 3 years and down to 700k daily is nothing amazing for the way it was aimed for streaming (shorter songs & streaming faved artists like Ariana and BLACKPINK)

critically it just benefited from poptimism when you truly needed a bad album to get bad reviews so using its MC score vs TF/TFM/BTW/ARTPOP/Joanne is funny to me...

the tour was indeed successful, and the initial peaks were great... but it was all smoke and mirrors...

2 minutes ago, chosensparkles said:

I mean I hate both extremes that Chromatica was either this huge success (not true) and her best album (not true; though it's subjective) OR that it was her biggest flop (not true) and her WORST album (not true again but still subjective, I accept the "it's my least fav album of her")

 

Yeah that’s neither here nor there. I was referring to the person who said people who think  Chromatica is her worst album don’t have social lives  like what

Just now, HeavyMetalAura said:

Yeah that’s neither here nor there. I was referring to the person who said people who think  Chromatica is her worst album don’t have social lives  like what

well there's a small league in here that spread their narrative and call anyone who has not their beliefs "in need to touch grass with no social lives"

3 hours ago, Almodusa said:

 

is this her first 1 billion streams in US song? hows BD doing? 

Everyone has a right to call whatever album of hers their most favourite.

 

For me it’s clearly Chromatica (with pretty large margin) for various reasons but I do appreciate and respect everyone else’s opinion on this.
 

As long as we stay objective and not talk to each other like a bunch of neanderthals, it’s all good. No one should  advise other people to touch grass (or whatever) just because their opinions on harmless topics are different.

Edited July 15, 20233 yr by DonnieDarko

3 minutes ago, Bojana said:

is this her first 1 billion streams in US song? hows BD doing? 

Shallow (1.2B) and BD (1B) already

 

Her team is free to release the Chromatica Ball Film and Gaga can even promote it on her Instagram without being insensitive. Hopefully the deal has a locked date (which i don’t know btw) and they won’t back track from it.

2 minutes ago, LykkeLi said:

 

Her team is free to release the Chromatica Ball Film and Gaga can even promote it on her Instagram without being insensitive. Hopefully the deal has a locked date (which i don’t know btw) and they won’t back track from it.

let us hope!!!

2 minutes ago, LykkeLi said:

 

Her team is free to release the Chromatica Ball Film and Gaga can even promote it on her Instagram without being insensitive. Hopefully the deal has a locked date (which i don’t know btw) and they won’t back track from it.

Do you think she would release it on one of the streaming platforms during this strike?

10 minutes ago, DonnieDarko said:

Do you think she would release it on one of the streaming platforms during this strike?

Why wouldn’t she?
SAG is actually encouraging and pushing their members to continue to work if the project doesn’t fall under their “CAN’T DO” guidelines…a concert doesn’t require writters or a scrip and she is releasing it as Lady Gaga the singer not the actress PLUS it has been shot about a year ago. 

1 hour ago, chosensparkles said:

the tour was indeed successful, and the initial peaks were great... but it was all smoke and mirrors...

How can a #1 single or a sold out stadium be smoke and mirrors? Do you have any idea how out of touch this sounds? You completely missed the point of both sides. 

Chromatica Ball footages in two days yup

1 hour ago, chosensparkles said:

I mean I hate both extremes that Chromatica was either this huge success (not true) and her best album (not true; though it's subjective) OR that it was her biggest flop (not true) and her WORST album (not true again but still subjective, I accept the "it's my least fav album of her")

 

Chromatica needed more music videos and singles tbh, even if they wouldn't become hits it would've still boosted their spotify streams greatly.

Replay, Alice and Babylon deserved the spotlight.

Do we have any predictions on when ROM will reach 1B and BM 400M on spotify?

Edited July 15, 20233 yr by Chromatica

2 minutes ago, Chromatica said:

Do we have any predictions on when ROM will reach 1B and BM 400M on spotify?

If Rain On Me stays above 300K daily, it should hit 1B by late November.

 

If Bloody Mary stays above 500K daily, it should hit 400M by mid-late September.

25 minutes ago, Century said:

How can a #1 single or a sold out stadium be smoke and mirrors? Do you have any idea how out of touch this sounds? You completely missed the point of both sides. 

Any song or album can reach #1… the question is whether it has legs to at least be somewhat successful afterwards

neither ROM and Chroma did that… they kept tumbling down

Chroma Tour was a success I never said other wise and it was probably the only saving Grace of this era

ROM rushing to 1 billion streams, the album doing a million units with a horrible rollout, Gaga breaking her own records constantly because of the era… but it’s all apparently smoke and mirrors got it 

If I had a dollar for each time we had this debate in the last 3 years

 

Just now, lgaga1fan said:

ROM rushing to 1 billion streams, the album doing a million units with a horrible rollout, Gaga breaking her own records constantly because of the era… but it’s all apparently smoke and mirrors got it 

Rushing being in 3 years when it debuted with 10M+ streams… and now down to 300k daily despite featuring Ariana… I mean if you’re happy with it

breaking records? Which one really?

Just now, State of Grace. said:

If I had a dollar for each time we had this debate in the last 3 years

 

When people realize that streams aren’t the objective metric that they think they are we’ll have an interesting conversation. Taylor broke all streaming metrics for spotify but is NA from on demand streams in the US, while Bloody Mary is #5. Streams don’t matter at all when entire stadiums were singing and jumping to album tracks like Replay. 

2 minutes ago, lgaga1fan said:

When people realize that streams aren’t the objective metric that they think they are we’ll have an interesting conversation. Taylor broke all streaming metrics for spotify but is NA from on demand streams in the US, while Bloody Mary is #5. Streams don’t matter at all when entire stadiums were singing and jumping to album tracks like Replay. 

Why are you bringing Taylor? No one mentioned her… some are not delusional in thinking Chromatica was a hugely successful era… it was neither a flop near a hit… it did the bare minimum…

2 minutes ago, chosensparkles said:

Rushing being in 3 years when it debuted with 10M+ streams… and now down to 300k daily despite featuring Ariana… I mean if you’re happy with it

breaking records? Which one really?

the song is over 3 years old… why would it continue pulling millions of streams on a platform that Lady Gaga is categorically weak on? Chromatica broke Gaga’s own records for several debuts and proved that there’s still demand for her. Also disregarding the fact that promotion is clearly affective on Gaga’s chart performance is extremely dense. This conversation is stupid regardless because streaming isn’t the monolith of consumption that everybody here pretends it is. 

2 hours ago, Enzo said:

she could collab with R. K***y again and I woudn't bat an eye, I would chew every piece of music she throws at me

Lets see how true this statement is: 

Edited July 15, 20233 yr by jesus del rey

21 minutes ago, chosensparkles said:

Any song or album can reach #1… the question is whether it has legs to at least be somewhat successful afterwards

neither ROM and Chroma did that… they kept tumbling down

Chroma Tour was a success I never said other wise and it was probably the only saving Grace of this era

The #1 most popular song in the United States of America is still the #1 most popular song in the United States of America. Whether it's shortly lived as the most popular song or it stays that way for months or whether it's a tight base streaming it 1,000 times each or everybody in America tuning in just once, none of that matters. Rain on Me was the biggest song in the US in May of 2020. Stupid Love was also one of the top 5 most popular songs the week it came out. Chromatica was the #1 album in the US. The Chromatica Ball posted record breaking boxscores in major cities. There was massive interest in Gaga and in her music, as always.

 

The first point you missed is that not being able to recognize the fact makes you seem grossly out of touch. The second point you missed was that the person you directly quoted was talking about Chromatica possibly not meeting their personal expectation on an artistic level. So to be clear everything you've said is not only completely off-base but it's also just not at all in line with what was being discussed.

 

There's no smoke & mirrors here. Gaga is a polarizing artist with niche appeal, it's fantastic that she manages the success that she does and if chart performance affects your enjoyment of music than I sincerely think you're a fan of the wrong artist. Nobody in or out of this base likes monsters who behave like you.

Edited July 15, 20233 yr by Century