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Beyoncé

This is part 1 of the Beyoncé discussion.

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Black artists are always pit against each other. And when they make a mistake white people clearly have no issue reminding us lol.

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2 minutes ago, Almost Home said:

I still think we have far too few female black legends to be pitting them against one another regardless. 

I just think it was a stupid comparison, that’s all. I have tremendous respect for what Tina Turner achieved, especially in Europe. 

2 minutes ago, Almost Home said:

Also if we are going there Bey herself would not agree she is bigger so it is not much of a point to be made. :gaycat6:

And you know this how? Bey would not have an opinion on it because I doubt she cares. But statistically and culturally speaking, Bey is bigger than Tina ever was. Now, you can say that’s putting two black women against each other but you’re doing the exact same thing by saying Bey would not agree she was bigger than Tina so don’t be a hypocrite. 

 

Let’s end this convo now because y’all cannot substantively disagree with what I have said and I’m bored. 

18 minutes ago, Bey Admired said:

I’m not even going to get into the stuff Tina has said about the black community but I digress… :dancehall:

And she had GOOD reason, so if you dont know the nuance about it all dont go there.

 

This is a VERY in depth thing based on what she went through here in the US.

 

INCLUDING Jays disrespectful ass diss that Bey included on DIL.

2 minutes ago, satellites.™ said:

And she had GOOD reason, so if you dont know the nuance about it all dont go there.

 

This is a VERY in depth thing based on what she went through here in the US.

 

INCLUDING Jays disrespectful ass diss that Bey included on DIL.

Okay, do you feel better now? Because I’m really not sure why y’all are so perturbed by my non-controversial posts lol. 

 

Some of you just love arguing :bibliahh:

23 minutes ago, Almost Home said:

And divorcing Jay and moving to another continent after staging a massive comeback in her late 40s? Yes please:clap3:

Divorce his ass in her mid 40s and stage a COADF level global comeback :jonny5:maybe even the Emancipation of The One Named Giselle Knowles.

1 minute ago, Almost Home said:

 

We can all just agree that the comparison you brought up that "Bey is bigger than Tina ever was" as a response to both doing tremendous things in their 40s was unnecessary and shelve this argument. Leave the downplaying of black women to the rest of this site please. 

Like I said, I stated a fact. I am not going to apologise for stating facts. But sure, we can move on. I would be delighted to move on from this boring conversation. 

Speaking of Tina, I think it’s cute that Bey is one of the only 6 people she follows on IG:clap3:legends recognizing legends:clap3:

2 minutes ago, Bey Admired said:

And you know this how? Bey would not have an opinion on it because I doubt she cares. But statistically and culturally speaking, Bey is bigger than Tina ever was. Now, you can say that’s putting two black women against each other but you’re doing the exact same thing by saying Bey would not agree she was bigger than Tina so don’t be a hypocrite. 

 

Let’s end this convo now because y’all cannot substantively disagree with what I have said and I’m bored. 

 

I don't think it's a bad take, but you know how people get when they misconstrue intent. I went through the same ish last week. And here we are and they're still...anyway. You're not wrong and to have an opinion on this doesn't mean considering how Bey feels. She's her own woman. She has her own opinions, just like how we do.

 

With that being said, it's not a bad convo to have and I honestly don't think it's a bad comparison. If anything, the comparison in itself, regulated to longevity, would actually be an honor to Bey. But Bey is Bey and is way past being viewed as the next "soandso" when they new girls are opting on being the next Bey. 

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1 minute ago, SashaDevachelli said:

Speaking of Tina, I think it’s cute that Bey is one of the only 6 people she follows on IG:clap3:legends recognizing legends:clap3:

Talent knows talent. :jonny5:

2 minutes ago, SashaDevachelli said:

Speaking of Tina, I think it’s cute that Bey is one of the only 6 people she follows on IG:clap3:legends recognizing legends:clap3:

That is cute. 

2 minutes ago, Almost Home said:

You simply got called out for pitting Tina against Bey for no reason when the user you quoted was giving both of them flowers for what they did and then tried to drag her down even further when we did not like the comparison and ignore what she went through to have the views and make commentary she did. The responses you received are deserved. 

My point was that Bey is not the next Tina Turner. Tina Turner is Tina Turner and Beyoncé is Beyoncé. Bey is well past the point of being compared to anyone. That’s all. 

 

I wasn’t called out for anything because no one as of yet has put forth a robust argument that effectively contests anything I have said. 

 

Now, let’s move on. 

1 minute ago, Almost Home said:

And you followed up that "fact" by ignoring her trauma and experience within the community to practically call her a self-hating racist and downplay her career. Please shut up and take your BS elsewhere since we all read that follow-up comment. 

Girl what are you even talking about? You are literally making stuff up at this point. Take ten deep breaths. 

28 minutes ago, *-ChriZ-* said:

Multiple hits from one album :fan:

Imagine if she has 5 top tens from this era. 

 

Single 1: Peak #4 (peak during album release)

Single 2: Peak #1 

Single 3 : Peak #5 

Single 4: Peak #2 

Single 5: Peak #1 

Like Beyoncé I think I’ve evolved beyond the charts so I don’t personally care that much. However, it does bring me joy to think about others getting pressed at her success to yay top 10 hit 

 

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6 minutes ago, 6_INCH_HEELS said:

 

I don't think it's a bad take, but you know how people get when they misconstrue intent. I went through the same ish last week. And here we are and they're still...anyway. You're not wrong and to have an opinion on this doesn't mean considering how Bey feels. She's her own woman. She has her own opinions, just like how we do.

 

With that being said, it's not a bad convo to have and I honestly don't think it's a bad comparison. If anything, the comparison in itself, regulated to longevity, would actually be an honor to Bey. But Bey is Bey and is way past being viewed as the next "soandso" when they new girls are opting on being the next Bey. 

Thank you. I don’t know why some users in here are ostensibly so very pressed by my simple statements of fact. It’s sad to me idk :rip:

1 minute ago, Almost Home said:

I do not have the energy rn but please just give Tina her flowers next time and keep it moving. 

You and me both. 

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5 minutes ago, Anvarie said:

Like Beyoncé I think I’ve evolved beyond the charts so I don’t personally care that much. However, it does bring me joy to think about others getting pressed at her success to yay top 10 hit 

 

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Same. 
 

She already made a name for herself, chart chasing is generally for newer acts. But it is refreshing to see she can spawn another hit esp each decade of her career.

 

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5 minutes ago, PrudenceHCharmed said:

Single 4: Peak #2 

no :rip: I still feel pain from Survivor & DiL

Just now, Almost Home said:

Some of us simply do not like having black women pitted against one another and having "facts stated" to downplay what they have accomplished when the entire world out there including their own community already does this extensively.

 

At least in here we can give all the girls their flowers especially one of Bey's biggest influences without pitting them against one to diminish what either has done. The user you quoted literally praised BOTH and you had to insert how Bey is bigger w/o it generally contributing anything of value to what that user said. 

 

Peace out. 

You still going? 

The way there is always an argument happening every new week. The joy isn’t joying beyonce, the souls are breaking, give us another crumb

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