34 minutes ago, cloudbusting said:

you frequently make some insightful points, but let's not pretend that this overly literal interpretation is what comes to mind when one sees the phrase "limited edition.” 

I've not pretended that at all.

 

My full sentence (which you've cropped) was: "they are labelled as 'limited edition' though, which is exactly what they are by literally having a limited tracklist but also by it now being very unlikely that any future pressings will be that tracklist."

 

a limited edition album is generally interpreted to mean a version of the album that will exist in limited quantities only, a version that is NOT the standard version that will be on sale from there on out, whether that is because of the cover art, the colour of the vinyl, or the specific content of the album itself, or some other reason.

 

whether you disagree or not with half of a sentence (which I only really added for fun) doesn't stop it from being a limited edition version vinyl, exactly what it was advertised to be and thus not embarrassing. TBH had she labelled it "Limited Edition Original Version of Cowboy Carter" they probably would have sold more because now you're letting people know that these are collector's items, the first pressings. It's like owning the first edition of a famous novel.

 

 

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4 minutes ago, swissman said:

I've not pretended that at all.

 

My full sentence, which you've cropped was: "they are labelled as 'limited edition' though, which is exactly what they are by literally having a limited tracklist but also by it now being very unlikely that any future pressings will be that tracklist."

 

whether you disagree or not with half of my statement (which I only really added for fun) doesn't stop it from being a limited edition version of the vinyl. and tbh had she labelled it "Limited Edition Original Version of Cowboy Carter" they probably would have sold more because now you're letting people know very clearly that these are collector's items, quite literally the first pressings.

 

 

Just because it isn't technically a lie doesn't mean that people can't be upset about what they're getting.

 

Honestly, a good chunk of the drama could've been avoided had they dropped the tracklist before preorders (or at least # of songs) and the physicals been advertised with the number of tracks. This way it wouldn't feel like people are finding out that they're getting fewer songs after the fact. Sorry, but it does come off as messy and the criticism is not unwarranted considering people's money was involved.

We assumed that "limited edition" meant that only the cover would be unique from the standard edition. As a longtime Bey fan, it was silly of me to assume anything. Knowing what I know now, I would still purchase everything again. But having more clarity on the limited tracklist would still be nice. It is what it is at this point. 

Her shop still hasn't responded to my complaint about being lied and deceived to by the whole physicals fiasco it's been a couple days. I find that super disappointing. I don't know how closely she monitors the people in charge of the shop but there needs to be an overhaul asap because that's extremely unprofessional.

 

Im seriously contemplating a chargeback through my bank and I hate that I'm even considering that nnn. 

Sony Music is hosting an official CC listening party in Brazil on April 10.

 

Maybe we can expect some kind of announcement around that time? We are been teased a lot recently so something is coming for sure. 

The sounds at the end of some of the Cowboy Crazy songs are part of the visuals. It's like she's being transported from one universe to another 

6 minutes ago, suneclipse121 said:

Her shop still hasn't responded to my complaint about being lied and deceived to by the whole physicals fiasco it's been a couple days. I find that super disappointing. I don't know how closely she monitors the people in charge of the shop but there needs to be an overhaul asap because that's extremely unprofessional.

 

Im seriously contemplating a chargeback through my bank and I hate that I'm even considering that nnn. 

Bey's shop pretty much ignores these things. They shipped my CE NOIR perfume to another state so I emailed to ask for a refund. They didn't respond but the perfume appeared on my doorstep 2 days later.

 

Unfortunately I'm guessing they will ignore the vinyl/CD complaints as well, since the website said "all sales are final." 

15 minutes ago, cloudbusting said:

Just because it isn't technically a lie doesn't mean that people can't be upset about what they're getting.

 

Honestly, a good chunk of the drama could've been avoided had they dropped the tracklist before preorders (or at least # of songs) and the physicals been advertised with the number of tracks. This way it wouldn't feel like people are finding out that they're getting fewer songs after the fact. Sorry, but it does come off as messy and the criticism is not unwarranted considering people's money was involved.

I agree it is messy but it's not embarrassing.

 

We all very much know the reason is because she had the album ready and planned to go BEFORE Renaissance and has since added new songs, the perfectionist that she is. Again, I agree that her being such a perfectionist and having usually tight control of her image/work does make this discrepancy feel all the more "messy" but there's not much embarrassment to be had on her end.

9 minutes ago, suneclipse121 said:

Her shop still hasn't responded to my complaint about being lied and deceived to by the whole physicals fiasco it's been a couple days. I find that super disappointing. I don't know how closely she monitors the people in charge of the shop but there needs to be an overhaul asap because that's extremely unprofessional.

 

Im seriously contemplating a chargeback through my bank and I hate that I'm even considering that nnn. 

Email Yvette directly 

 

[email protected]

2 minutes ago, kimberly said:

Bey's shop pretty much ignores these things. They shipped my CE NOIR perfume to another state so I emailed to ask for a refund. They didn't respond but the perfume appeared on my doorstep 2 days later.

 

Unfortunately I'm guessing they will ignore the vinyl/CD complaints as well, since the website said "all sales are final." 

That's wild to me Ce Noir ain't cheap either for them not to respond and help in some way is crazy. 

What do y'all think Beyonce's intention was with releasing at TEXAS HOLD 'EM remix? Do y'all think she was trying to push for number one single again? If so, why didn't she put it out earlier in the week?

17 minutes ago, Space&Time said:

What do y'all think Beyonce's intention was with releasing at TEXAS HOLD 'EM remix? Do y'all think she was trying to push for number one single again? If so, why didn't she put it out earlier in the week?

I think that it was a few possible things at once:

 

1. Boost TEXAS HOLD 'EM's sales. (I haven't been tracking it because I don't care, so duno if there's even a chance of it going #1 but to have it get even higher than without would only be a bonus).
2. And by extension, because it is released so late in the tracking week and thus kind of straddles two, it would also help to steady TEXAS HOLD 'EM on the album's second week on the charts, so that it doesn't just get an album-release boost but one that continues for another week.
3. Boost discourse and excitement around the album going into its second week. It's almost like promo for the album right at the start of a new tracking week
4. Releasing it so late also doesn't make her seem desperate for these boosts, but just matter of fact. It allows people to consume the album without distractions before getting a lil treat before the week is done.
5. This is less likely: but I've seen a lot of "I wish she'd do R&B again" stuff on Twitter, and perhaps like the BMS remix, her releasing it at that moment is a bit of a "shut up" moment considering she's more in her R&B/hip-hop bag with her vocals on the remix. I doubt this though, but it's a funny thought.

 

 

Edited April 4, 20242 yr by swissman

I LOVE the remix but just wish the new part was longer...

23 minutes ago, kimberly said:

Bey's shop pretty much ignores these things. They shipped my CE NOIR perfume to another state so I emailed to ask for a refund. They didn't respond but the perfume appeared on my doorstep 2 days later.

 

Unfortunately I'm guessing they will ignore the vinyl/CD complaints as well, since the website said "all sales are final." 

yeah her shop lost my merch twice and then one day it just showed up on my doorstep. they refused to refund me lol

1 minute ago, yonsé said:

yeah her shop lost my merch twice and then one day it just showed up on my doorstep. they refused to refund me lol

they lost my stuff once and I actually just wanted them to resend it but instead they refunded me.

1 minute ago, swissman said:

they lost my stuff once and I actually just wanted them to resend it but instead they refunded me.

! wild

7 minutes ago, swissman said:

I LOVE the remix but just wish the new part was longer...

I just wish they released just that part as "Pony Up". I don't wanna hear 1:30 seconds of Texas Hold 'Em before it.

3 minutes ago, yonsé said:

! wild

well in my case it was the Limited Edition Alternate Cover RENAISSANCE vinyl so I assume they just had no more left. But it sucked because I bought it within minutes of it being on sale. I really wanted it.

 

 

Edited April 4, 20242 yr by swissman

1 minute ago, CécredSpaces said:

I just wish they released just that part as "Pony Up". I don't wanna hear 1:30 seconds of Texas Hold 'Em before it.

yes or at least altered the instrumental slightly (like BMS) for that part in order to have enough of the song to make it eligibly combined with the original for Billboard, but different enough that we're not just waiting for the good part.

It's still an amazing remix and I love the bait-and-switch factor too.

They are the best at this TikTok dance thing, I fear.

 

 

39 minutes ago, kimberly said:

Bey's shop pretty much ignores these things. They shipped my CE NOIR perfume to another state so I emailed to ask for a refund. They didn't respond but the perfume appeared on my doorstep 2 days later.

 

Unfortunately I'm guessing they will ignore the vinyl/CD complaints as well, since the website said "all sales are final." 

When I ordered one of the film hoodies, I ordered the "wrong" one because they briefly had the wrong graphic on it or something. Can't remember exact details, but I emailed them immediately and asked if they could please send the correct one instead. They emailed back "No exchanges or refunds."

 

Her Shop is lowkey just bank robbery and we keep falling for it

A has been coming for Bey now. She really makes people angry, no other pop star does this to people. 

if she wants our money that bad her crooked ass better come up with a super collector's edition with all 3 (FULL) acts, visuals, tour film, all the remixes and photo booklets in one big, well designed box. i'd easily pay +500$ to own that 

They're so ******* dumb