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Beyoncé

This is part 1 of the Beyoncé discussion.

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1 minute ago, QueenB said:

Why cut all those ballads but NOT flaws and yawns? 

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In the trailer she very clearly talks about letting go of perfection. This song exemplifies that right off the bat.

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1 minute ago, swissman said:

In the trailer she very clearly talks about letting go of perfection. This song exemplifies that right off the bat.

She definitely let go of perfection when she decided to add that snooze to the setlist, for sure

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this will be constructed like the IAWT DVD/Homecoming 

 

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3 minutes ago, QueenB said:

Why cut all those ballads but NOT flaws and yawns? 

:suburban:

She would have shelved if it weren't for the speech at the beginning 

 

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Not one day in this base goes by where people are satisfied or even accepting of things as they are. Very intriguing.

the studio version might be ass, but all this Flaws and All slander has to CEASE

 

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Just now, swissman said:

Not one day in this base goes by where people are satisfied or even accepting of things as they are. Very intriguing.

have you ever been in any other base? it’s the same story for any other artist

7 minutes ago, Blue Rose said:

If you need the film to be convinced that Bey is a top tier vocalist, then you will never be convinced. 
 

I agree that Partition/Savage could’ve been cut too but Megan came and saved that little section :hippo:

when the tour started and she cut back on heavy dancing seemingly at the advantage of live singing, it was "why isn't she dancing?" now that certain ballads are cut it's "how will anyone ever know she's a good singer?!"

She's not cutting flaws and all....that a song she literally dedicates to the fans that TRULY love her in the show. 

 

Apart from love on top, i am fine with everything she cut. Glad majority of renee made it. Its called the renaissance film after all. 

Just now, cloudbusting said:

have you ever been in any other base? it’s the same story for any other artist

well that just makes my statement all the more universal.

I love documentary footage! I love behind the scenes! But preferably when it's accessible by pressing the menu button on my remote at any time! Not when it's stopping a concert's momentum dead in its tracks

 

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I don’t agree with cutting ANY of the opening act on principle. But I’m not super bothered cause we have better performances of both I Care and 1+1.

 

If I’m being real, she was dodging a lot of notes for I Care. Though, the new instrumental more than made up for it. Also, 1+1/Beautiful Ones > 1+1/I’m Goin’ Down

I get that she probably wanted all of Rennie in but Fallenandcantgetup Off the Sofa should’ve been cut in favor of Love on Top and I Care. :suburban:

Most of my friends who are casual fans of Bey thought that the ballad section dragged on a bit and that DIL and Flaws and All were the highlights of that section, so it seems Team Bey made the right decision.

 

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1 minute ago, Kassi said:

I don’t agree with cutting ANY of the opening act on principle. But I’m not super bothered cause we have better performances of both I Care and 1+1.

 

If I’m being real, she was dodging a lot of notes for I Care. Though, the new instrumental more than made up for it. Also, 1+1/Beautiful Ones > 1+1/I’m Goin’ Down

Absoluty agree. We have better performances of these songs already

I’m strictly watching this film to see bey with no makeup wearing a big ass hoodie, and I want to see Blue eat her mother up live on a big screen that’s all I care about. She’s including all the Rennie songs and that’s all that matters

 

I want to see her personality more than the tour which I already got to see

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2 minutes ago, Mitsouko said:

I love documentary footage! I love behind the scenes! But preferably when it's accessible by pressing the menu button on my remote at any time! Not when it's stopping a concert's momentum dead in its tracks

 

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Every review has pointed that that’s the heart of the film, more than the concert itself; and that it works. I’d wait to see it before making assumptions.

11 minutes ago, swissman said:

 

I'm not saying none of them are great moments or don't represent who she is as an artist, just that thematically and artistically this is the RENAISSANCE film. All of those songs have been performed at least in three other documented and released concerts. There's really no artistic need for them to be present when there are others that better fit the vibe and speak to the tour's theme, speak to her artistry just as well, or simply are more upbeat/fun (like the album is), and have more interesting setups than her being at the microphone stand, sitting on a piano, or asking the audience to sing.

 

And I LOVED LOT but part of why it was so great was because it surprised me. Having seen it done many times on film before, it never actually felt the way it feels to do it in person with Beyoncé, seeing her genuine reaction to what YOU are singing, etc. It's a nice moment to have in the film, but it could never capture the actual feeling, and since she's included it in films already many times, is it really a necessary component?

 

 

 

It's not worth-arguing at this point when you're supporting your views with a mere "great gowns, beautiful gowns" while I was referring to technicalities such as the call and response with the guitarrist. It is what it is. 

So is the My House thing actually true? I need another AHAP track right neow :jonny5:

6 minutes ago, Draper. said:

Every review has pointed that that’s the heart of the film, more than the concert itself; and that it works. I’d wait to see it before making assumptions.

You know THIS BASE assumes a lot of **** before they actually see it. A mess

32 minutes ago, QueenB said:

Why cut all those ballads but NOT flaws and yawns? 

:suburban:

Because of her 42nd birthday speech.

 

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7 minutes ago, Draper. said:

Every review has pointed that that’s the heart of the film, more than the concert itself; and that it works. I’d wait to see it before making assumptions.

I don't doubt I'll be interested and entertained by those parts, and as Shoulders already said, I welcome any glimpse into her inner sanctum. But if I'm ever itching to "relive" my concert experience, I'm gonna be pressed at their forced inclusion. For instance Homecoming is a fine package in and of itself but the replay factor was lessened by the documentary parts. imo

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Variety posted the setlist and she moved River Deep/Mountain High before Diana's appearance, presumably because she's discussing her idols and what they went through so it works thematically. 

 

LOT is a no brainer. The crowd ruins it every night. It had no place to be in the film. A highlight during the show though. Just like the ballads! But they suck when you’re watching the live footage. I didn’t even realize that I was skipping some songs until it was too late. For every video, I just go straight to the 23min mark, catch the end of I Care to see her dress and then the real show begins. It all felt very natural :laugh:

 

I can’t wait until we get back to full length complete concert releases like TBE, IAY, etc. No crazy editing or documentary crap taking up space from songs.

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