9 minutes ago, Kool_Aid_King said:

Honestly, the movie having showings in Israel available for sale is so disheartening. It makes me so sad as a big fan, especially with the double standard of it having no showings in Russia (rightfully so).

 

I know it might not be her call to make but it's still a huge bummer. My tix are non-refundable too.

 

It's not apart of the BDS boycott, like most movies are not apart of it since they're not explicitly supporting Israel but it still feels wrong to promote this even among my circles and friends. 

Its not might...IT IS NOT HER CALL TO MAKE. She is not the distributor. AMC job is to maximise profit, they have also invested into the movie. There is nothing bey can do.

i don't think we'll get the live album this week. we better get the live album though. my guess is like maybe later december or some time in january if she really wants to drag this out. 

 

 

Oh brother. This again.

 

There are no movie showings in Russia because the major studios and distributors decided to get out after the invasion.

 

 

 

There were widespread sanctions from the entire West. And it reached across industries. Like, Germans were literally freezing cause the EU boycott Russian gas.

 

These are literally NOT comparable. 

I'd say we're getting the album or at least the song. People will leave the theater and want to listen to it. 

lets just face it, bey supports israel. she hasnt made any statement or shown support for palestine in any way, and she decided to let the movie show in israel even after the backlash.  

People keep saying “oh, but she’s so powerful! she so famous!”

 

Yes. Famous for making *music*, not for owning the global network of content distribution platforms. 
 

She don’t own:

• Apple (iTunes/Apple Music)
• Google (YouTube)
• Netflix
• Spotify
• Disney
• And certainly not movie theaters

If Israelis want to buy her album on iTunes, stream her catalog on Spotify, relive Coachella on Netflix, or watch her old performances on YouTube, they certainly can. Why this film is being treated so differently in relation to her other content AND all of the major Hollywood movies is truly baffling.

 

Everyone needs to turn their brains back on and think critically.  

13 minutes ago, Kingdom said:

Its not might...IT IS NOT HER CALL TO MAKE. She is not the distributor. AMC job is to maximise profit, they have also invested into the movie. There is nothing bey can do.

But no statement is a statement. You might be right but it just sucks and is an unfortunate situation.

 

6 minutes ago, Kassi said:

Oh brother. This again.

 

There are no movie showings in Russia because the major studios and distributors decided to get out after the invasion.

 

 

 

There were widespread sanctions from the entire West. And it reached across industries. Like, Germans were literally freezing cause the EU boycott Russian gas.

 

These are literally NOT comparable. 

Yes, I'm aware. That's what I'm saying. A boycott by Hollywood is justified just like it should be for what's going on there as well. Companies are just acting on the interests of the country they reside in, no shocker there. 

58 minutes ago, Shone Ai said:

I’m talking about the fact that Isn’treal is still on the film website and her team still hasn’t said anything about it   If that **** is then it’ll be the end of the era for me, I can’t in go the theater. 

Some Israeli movie theaters have the movie listed

https://www.rav-hen.co.il/films/renaissance-a-film-by-beyonce/6188s2r

 

We will miss you sis

that one hive page who made the whole “boycott the movie and send emails to parkwood" post a thing is begging for money to go to the premiere as we speak 

 

all of this is classic performative twitter activism as usual, majority of that boycott crowd will be happily back at starbucks sipping chai lattes come next fall (if they even stopped going there irl to begin with) 

The impending discourse when the Jewish LVMH family shows up to the London premiere, lord help us.  

It’s the way Bey has NEVER associated herself with #that conflict (which is older than Joe Biden btw), or any foreign conflict for that matter, yet now is being expected to become the face of Hamas resistance. 
 

Social media is not real.  Next they’ll be asking why AMC/Trafalgar is active in Pakistan (it’s one of the territories listed on Bey’s site) while they’re ethnically cleansing Afghani refugees. They won’t let my auntie breathe. 

 

Were they even this upset when Bey didn’t say anything about Ukraine? 

1 hour ago, Shone Ai said:

I’m talking about the fact that Isn’treal is still on the film website and her team still hasn’t said anything about it   If that **** is then it’ll be the end of the era for me, I can’t in go the theater. 

Girl Israel is in, I’d try to refund that ticket asap. 

1 hour ago, Iyanla, Fix Me said:

hehe 

 

Ugh, this is the video i wanted to see the most. In my La La land, it was the last shot of a full out choreo sequence in AHAP. Sadly i’ll never know. 

First off I want to preface by saying I don’t care if this shows or doesn’t show in Israel, and that the “outrage” is misguided since Tayble has showings there ad well, people really don’t care. HOWEVER, I would like to share this clip of Nina Simone who I’m sure Bey idolizes and takes notes from.

I think more than ever, especially an album that celebrates being free and being joyful people have every right to believe that this film should be boycotted from showing there. Let’s not pretend like Bey has never dabbled in political activism, it isn’t her job but she still does it in her performances and in her videos.

 

I don’t think it is the right thing to tell others to hush and stop complaining because you aren’t helping in this issue either, silence is a form of complacency and while our opinions are minuscule and don’t matter, I would rather it matter a little bit rather than saying nothing at all. 
 

This discussion should be a “agree to disagree” situation as there is validity on both sides. We can see that a lot of this out-cry is just performative activism and people actually don’t give af, but we shouldn’t silence people for voicing their disdain for a valid complaint. Beyonce is not a god who can magically reverse every problem in the world, but she has a voice, a powerful one at that and removing the film would speak volumes.

6 minutes ago, SashaDevachelli said:

First off I want to preface by saying I don’t care if this shows or doesn’t show in Israel, and that the “outrage” is misguided since Tayble has showings there ad well, people really don’t care. HOWEVER, I would like to share this clip of Nina Simone who I’m sure Bey idolizes and takes notes from.

I think more than ever, especially an album that celebrates being free and being joyful people have every right to believe that this film should be boycotted from showing there. Let’s not pretend like Bey has never dabbled in political activism, it isn’t her job but she still does it in her performances and in her videos.

 

I don’t think it is the right thing to tell others to hush and stop complaining because you aren’t helping in this issue either, silence is a form of complacency and while our opinions are minuscule and don’t matter, I would rather it matter a little bit rather than saying nothing at all. 
 

This discussion should be a “agree to disagree” situation as there is validity on both sides. We can see that a lot of this out-cry is just performative activism and people actually don’t give af, but we shouldn’t silence people for voicing their disdain for a valid complaint. Beyonce is not a god who can magically reverse every problem in the world, but she has a voice, a powerful one at that and removing the film would speak volumes.

I agree to some extent.......however the end of the crisis is not dependent on beyonce saying "free palestine". 

This just cut my excitement level in half tbh

 

shameful decision

 

 

 

Mind you, this conflict is old enough that we can see exactly where Nina was when she was active…

 

This from people who praise her for it 

 

This from people who condemn her for it.

 

Whatever side of the spectrum you fall on… the one thing people can’t say is that Bey has ever associated herself with Israel or the Israel/Palestine conflict in general.
 

So why can’t they just leave her alone? 

Cuts everything from her favorite album but keeps Floors And Oil and Wet Blanket Parade I-

Just now, Mitsouko said:

Cuts everything from her favorite album but keeps Floors And Oil and Wet Blanket Parade I-

ntm on F&A because she sang her ass off there

 

 

2 minutes ago, cloudbusting said:

ntm on F&A because she sang her ass off there

 

 

Okay? So did I. And both of our renditions can stay in the past

 

7 minutes ago, giRLbye. said:

This just cut my excitement level in half tbh

 

shameful decision

 

 

 

It could still be on streaming. 
 

 

7 minutes ago, giRLbye. said:

This just cut my excitement level in half tbh

 

shameful decision

 

 

 

I personally don't care because 4/5 should've never been included on the setlist. If the big 3 and REN songs were cut I'd be annoyed. LOT deserved (sorta) but otherwise what are we truly missing. 

2 minutes ago, Mitsouko said:

Okay? So did I. And both of our renditions can stay in the past

 

she needs to drop the director’s (un)cut i fear

 

Kinda funny how Bey is being the target for Israel. Meanwhile every other artist has performed there when she has not. Selective outrage as usual. The other movie getting no hate, like please. Also Bey fans set her up so much.

Just now, cloudbusting said:

she needs to drop the director’s (un)cut i fear

 

Yeah I'm still kinda fuming that we're not getting the complete show but whatever