2 hours ago, ScorpiosGroove said:

damn basé’s deader than Lemonade’s streams lately 

Yesterday i asked myself: is Beyonce really gonna stand the test of time with her antics (musically speaking)?

Without a question, her reputation as THE performer of our generation is cemented and untouched. Musically speaking tho, her streams are ok-ish including Renaissance, abysimal excluding Renaissance. 

Her catalog simply isn't being consumed and thats a fact. Just wondering

4 minutes ago, Kristie Kuwa said:

Yesterday i asked myself: is Beyonce really gonna stand the test of time with her antics (musically speaking)?

Without a question, her reputation as THE performer of our generation is cemented and untouched. Musically speaking tho, her streams are ok-ish including Renaissance, abysimal excluding Renaissance. 

Her catalog simply isn't being consumed and thats a fact. Just wondering

This is something I and a lot of chart hive have expressed concern for years. Lack of promo and radio hits have really hurt her and it starts with the release of self titled, no single direction, all over the place. Then after Mrs. Carter tour where she added a couple of songs, she jumped right into on the run tour.  Not putting lemonade on streaming was the final blow.. There's a reason IASF is still one of her most streamed catalogue despite die hard fans saying it is their least favorite.

 

And frankly there isn't an excuse outside of self sabotage. Is her music going to stand the test of time? I have no idea.  Rih is still consistently at the top with streaming despite her last album being 7 years ago. MJ hit a billion streams just this year for his catalogue. 

This is branded into my retinas. I see it when I close my eyes. My nightmares are of it. I not seen anything tackier in my life.

 

Spoiler

There aren't enough disparagements, belittlements...

 

Look at the CANKLES it gives her omg

What's your most played song from RENAISSANCE?

 

Mine is VIRGOS GROOVE 

1 hour ago, carameldelight said:

I was actually going to say this lol

 

Not only is the base dead now during an active tour but the tour is coming to an end and we don't even know if anything will happen in the next 5 years. 

Beyoncé’s grand master plan will happen, or so the girls told us 

 

17 minutes ago, Kristie Kuwa said:

Yesterday i asked myself: is Beyonce really gonna stand the test of time with her antics (musically speaking)?

Without a question, her reputation as THE performer of our generation is cemented and untouched. Musically speaking tho, her streams are ok-ish including Renaissance, abysimal excluding Renaissance. 

Her catalog simply isn't being consumed and thats a fact. Just wondering

even that isn’t guaranteed anymore i fear, people today will look you straight in the eyes and tell you it’s Stiffy, can’t even imagine how perception will change once Bey is gone gone and she keeps going… 

 

can we even blame the GP ? what will they remember at this point other than the big hits, Coachella and some old performances ? her back catalogue streams abysmal and even touring barely changes that, you can barely find vinyls or cds of her works, all of her visuals are trapped on dying sites nobody uses or in her vault, you can’t watch 80% of her performances on youtube bc she blocked them, anything fan made gets deleted (even on twitter), you can’t rewatch tours since she won’t release them

 

i feel like her biggest wish is to become a literal ghost, push her fans away and make locals forget her… 

25 minutes ago, Mitsouko said:

This is branded into my retinas. I see it when I close my eyes. My nightmares are of it. I not seen anything tackier in my life.

 

  Reveal hidden contents

There aren't enough disparagements, belittlements...

 

Look at the CANKLES it gives her omg

The fact they chose black chunky heels to go with that is mind-boggling. I mean, it's abysmal regardless.... but the shoes make it one of the worst things she's ever worn. I don't know how she went on stage like that without wanting to crawl under the piano.

1 hour ago, Kristie Kuwa said:

Yesterday i asked myself: is Beyonce really gonna stand the test of time with her antics (musically speaking)?

She already did 

4 minutes ago, Draper. said:

She already did 

started with '4' and she has gone against the grain ever since.

 

At this point I've accepted that Beyonce will be what she will be sustainability wise in terms of if her music will have staying power.

 

We are a decade plus deep of her finding every way to slight her potention by not giving much attention to singles. I think her biggest issues is that while she has adored albums, she doesn't have enough singles that people want to go back and cuasully listen to/stream. Sitting down and listening to a single and taking time to consume and album are two different experiences for the average person, and I think more people just prefer to listen to songs at leisure.

I would love a RWT outfit rate. It's gonna be bad for a lot of the EU and my Tampa date though.

2 hours ago, Mitsouko said:

This is branded into my retinas. I see it when I close my eyes. My nightmares are of it. I not seen anything tackier in my life.

 

  Reveal hidden contents

There aren't enough disparagements, belittlements...

 

Look at the CANKLES it gives her omg

This would’ve been much better as a gown. The top half had potential but things went south making it into a catsuit. This one also stands out as a huge miss. It is so unflattering. And the black heels….

Edited September 14, 20232 yr by suneclipse121

2 hours ago, ScorpiosGroove said:

Beyoncé’s grand master plan will happen, or so the girls told us 

 

even that isn’t guaranteed anymore i fear, people today will look you straight in the eyes and tell you it’s Stiffy, can’t even imagine how perception will change once Bey is gone gone and she keeps going… 

 

can we even blame the GP ? what will they remember at this point other than the big hits, Coachella and some old performances ? her back catalogue streams abysmal and even touring barely changes that, you can barely find vinyls or cds of her works, all of her visuals are trapped on dying sites nobody uses or in her vault, you can’t watch 80% of her performances on youtube bc she blocked them, anything fan made gets deleted (even on twitter), you can’t rewatch tours since she won’t release them

 

i feel like her biggest wish is to become a literal ghost, push her fans away and make locals forget her… 

OMG I had this real life experience at work the other day. This girl is a casual fan and loves Renaissance however she was saying that even though Beyonce is stiff now and can no longer perform she's still excited about the  tour. And I was like where the hell did you hear that from, and she mentioned the Sweden show.  As I have been saying, it's easy for people to forget. And it seems like Beyonce is hellbent on making that happen. 

 

She wanted to be like Sade, she will get it. An afterthought 

 

 

17 minutes ago, Jai said:

At this point I've accepted that Beyonce will be what she will be sustainability wise in terms of if her music will have staying power.

 

We are a decade plus deep of her finding every way to slight her potention by not giving much attention to singles. I think her biggest issues is that while she has adored albums, she doesn't have enough singles that people want to go back and cuasully listen to/stream. Sitting down and listening to a single and taking time to consume and album are two different experiences for the average person, and I think more people just prefer to listen to songs at leisure.

Exactly! Her albums are stellar, however it's the singles that will bring people back and a new audience to your catalogue.  To me REN should be top streaming albums period. This era started out amazing, I don't know why it went left. 

2 hours ago, Kristie Kuwa said:

Yesterday i asked myself: is Beyonce really gonna stand the test of time with her antics (musically speaking)?

Without a question, her reputation as THE performer of our generation is cemented and untouched. Musically speaking tho, her streams are ok-ish including Renaissance, abysimal excluding Renaissance. 

Her catalog simply isn't being consumed and thats a fact. Just wondering

Her 2000s catalog does more than fine. People consumed a wider range of genres than when it came to this decade. It’s where she excels all her peers (recurrently)
 

The issue with her 2010s catalog apart from the sabatogé is the fact that it was arguably the worst/weakest year for contemporary R&B, especially for the women. The genre became more broody, male dominated and full of trap beats. Songs like Love On Top and Dunk in Love are still two of some of the biggest “r&b” hits of that decade though all things considered. Also, it’s not to say there wasn’t other good experimental R&B out there, but it was a weak year for the women in R&B all around with Beyoncé technically being the only contemporary R&B girl still standing strong from the 2000s. Her overall streams only look bad when you compare her rhythmic catalog of the 2010s to all the new and exciting pop eras of the 2010s. You can’t really compare the two. 
 

Lemonade’s abysmal daily streams is all her fault though and it’s what she deserves. 

 

Edited September 14, 20232 yr by BGKC

31 minutes ago, BGKC said:

Her 2000s catalog does more than fine. People consumed a wider range of genres than when it came to this decade. It’s where she excels all her peers (recurrently)
 

The issue with her 2010s catalog apart from the sabatogé is the fact that it was arguably the worst/weakest year for contemporary R&B, especially for the women. The genre became more broody, male dominated and full of trap beats. Songs like Love On Top and Dunk in Love are still two of some of the biggest “r&b” hits of that decade though all things considered. Also, it’s not to say there wasn’t other good experimental R&B out there, but it was a weak year for the women in R&B all around with Beyoncé technically being the only contemporary R&B girl still standing strong from the 2000s. Her overall streams only look bad when you compare her rhythmic catalog of the 2010s to all the new and exciting pop eras of the 2010s. You can’t really compare the two. 
 

Lemonade’s abysmal daily streams is all her fault though and it’s what she deserves. 

 

Im more so asking because I factor in the world's eagerness to diminish Black Art. If you consider perception to be reality to most, Voldemort being hailed as "the savior of the music industry and US American economy" while Beyonce being completely  left out of the convo DESPITE delivering one of the biggest tours of all time is kind of foreshadowing how Beyonces behavior will be dealt with in the future: an afterthought. I truly think Beyoncé is surrounded by people giving her a feeling of security that yes, shes not as commercial anymore, but "imPAcT" and "CultURAl vaLUe", yet how many times did Bey pave the way with innovative ideas and actually got lasting praise for it? 

The surprise visual release, to be quite frank, is forgotten. 

Her constantly reinventing release strategy and thus CLEARLY influencing Voldemort to be creative is not seen/perceived by the GP.

Her arguably biggest achievement, being the most awarded person, will be taken from her.

 

All thats left will be the clear standouts, Crazy in Love, Halo and Single Ladies (and Run The World). Thats it.

Im actually kind of sad when I think about it because shes clearly delusional about it all and does not see the way the World and Media works

Edited September 14, 20232 yr by Kristie Kuwa

3 hours ago, Kristie Kuwa said:

Yesterday i asked myself: is Beyonce really gonna stand the test of time with her antics (musically speaking)?

Without a question, her reputation as THE performer of our generation is cemented and untouched. Musically speaking tho, her streams are ok-ish including Renaissance, abysimal excluding Renaissance. 

Her catalog simply isn't being consumed and thats a fact. Just wondering

Compared to who? She is out streaming all her peers. Comparing her to the new artists like Billie, Dua etc is not realistic. DIL is going to pass 2 billion this year, how is that bad? BEYONCÉ over 3 billion when she restricted it. 

I'm seeing more artists using Chrome on red carpets... 

 

RWT impact 

The thing is she's not stiff. Her movement is still so fluid and she ran down to Diana in heels.

 

Something is definitely up with the dancing but it seems to be a conscious choice.

1 hour ago, Kristie Kuwa said:

Im more so asking because I factor in the world's eagerness to diminish Black Art. If you consider perception to be reality to most, Voldemort being hailed as "the savior of the music industry and US American economy" while Beyonce being completely  left out of the convo DESPITE delivering one of the biggest tours of all time is kind of foreshadowing how Beyonces behavior will be dealt with in the future: an afterthought. I truly think Beyoncé is surrounded by people giving her a feeling of security that yes, shes not as commercial anymore, but "imPAcT" and "CultURAl vaLUe", yet how many times did Bey pave the way with innovative ideas and actually got lasting praise for it? 

The surprise visual release, to be quite frank, is forgotten. 

Her constantly reinventing release strategy and thus CLEARLY influencing Voldemort to be creative is not seen/perceived by the GP.

Her arguably biggest achievement, being the most awarded person, will be taken from her.

 

All thats left will be the clear standouts, Crazy in Love, Halo and Single Ladies (and Run The World). Thats it.

Im actually kind of sad when I think about it because shes clearly delusional about it all and does not see the way the World and Media works

She’s not been left out of the conversation. Where’ve you been?! One of the complaints I hear most about her is how overpraised she is.

 

4 songs remembered? That’s 4x more than 99.99999% of artists.

 

You’re acting like if she’s not literally the #1 artist in the world until the end of time, she’ll be forgotten. There’s room for multiple legacies 

1 hour ago, Kristie Kuwa said:

shes clearly delusional about it all and does not see the way the World and Media works

Louder 

Ya, we know more about how the WORLD and the media works than Beyoncé. You’re right 

 

The aliens revealing themselves now only because they want to attend the RWT 

 

4 hours ago, Mitsouko said:

This is branded into my retinas. I see it when I close my eyes. My nightmares are of it. I not seen anything tackier in my life.

 

  Reveal hidden contents

There aren't enough disparagements, belittlements...

 

Look at the CANKLES it gives her omg

That was the first show I attended. 
 

At least she gave me this cute lil Baphomét moment a week later.

 

 

4 hours ago, ShouldersSideways said:

The fact they chose black chunky heels to go with that is mind-boggling. I mean, it's abysmal regardless.... but the shoes make it one of the worst things she's ever worn. I don't know how she went on stage like that without wanting to crawl under the piano.

Mrs. Carter Show wants you to hold its drink.

 

4 minutes ago, ICLDXU4HS said:

That was the first show I attended. 
 

At least she gave me this cute lil Baphomét moment a week later.

 

 

 

 

This was such an underrated look. Live it love it love it. She looked impeccable! Easily top 5 opening looks for me. 

 

 

Edited September 14, 20232 yr by AxelFox