Anyways im here to profess that MOVE is the best song to experience at RWT. Especially when the Tems song gets incorporated within. 

8 minutes ago, Jai said:

I think the concept has become a double-edged sword. While she does care about the art/experience she also now probably views any visuals she creates as High Art, and thus, High Value. I don't see Miss Honey lowering the price for no one/nothing. 

This sounds pretentious AF and why many people were turned off to Gaga.

 

Where is the ROI for the studios that will pay out a large sum? How does this reach an audience big enough if she won’t promote and is releasing visuals a year after the fact with no other singles currently sustaining the era?

 

They’ll also charge fans max high prices for tickets, merchandise, boxes you don’t know what’s in it, a perfume you haven’t smelled, to turn around and say I’ll release a visual when I feel like it and whoever pays me more.  Not even release singles where we can at least monitor or discuss that.  There’s no return on investment for fans or anyone else. If I didn’t go to the tour, I wouldn’t have had anything else to experience. She wants to have her cake and eat it too but at some point she’s going to have to make a choice. Being a non commercial, indie artist means that you don’t need to make any profit, you just release it for max consumption and let it do its work. Not hinder it with pulls from radio. It just has never made any sense. 

 

That’s why she is in a tug of war with execs and she’s probably losing capital with other bigger and profitable stars are capitalizing. And Ryan Tedder is over it lol

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10 minutes ago, Jai said:

Anyways im here to profess that MOVE is the best song to experience at RWT. Especially when the Tems song gets incorporated within. 

The best is cozy into AS

5 minutes ago, sillycilla said:

This sounds pretentious AF and why many people were turned off to Gaga.

 

Where is the ROI for the studios that will pay out a large sum? How does this reach an audience big enough if she won’t promote and is releasing visuals a year after the fact with no other singles currently sustaining the era?

 

They’ll also charge fans max high prices for tickets, merchandise, boxes you don’t know what’s in it, a perfume you haven’t smelled, to turn around and say I’ll release a visual when I feel like it and whoever pays me more.  Not even release singles where we can at least monitor or discuss that.  There’s no return on investment for fans or anyone else. If I didn’t go to the tour, I wouldn’t have had anything else to experience. She wants to have her cake and eat it too but at some point she’s going to have to make a choice. Being a non commercial, indie artist means that you don’t need to make any profit, you just release it for max consumption and let it do its work. Not hinder it with pulls from radio. It just has never made any sense. 

 

That’s why she is in a tug of war with execs and she’s probably losing capital with other bigger and profitable stars are capitalizing. And Ryan Tedder is over it lol

 

I dont disagree with this; she needs to make a choice. But who knows what's going on in her camp.

14 minutes ago, sillycilla said:

This sounds pretentious AF and why many people were turned off to Gaga.

 

Where is the ROI for the studios that will pay out a large sum? How does this reach an audience big enough if she won’t promote and is releasing visuals a year after the fact with no other singles currently sustaining the era?

 

They’ll also charge fans max high prices for tickets, merchandise, boxes you don’t know what’s in it, a perfume you haven’t smelled, to turn around and say I’ll release a visual when I feel like it and whoever pays me more.  Not even release singles where we can at least monitor or discuss that.  There’s no return on investment for fans or anyone else. If I didn’t go to the tour, I wouldn’t have had anything else to experience. She wants to have her cake and eat it too but at some point she’s going to have to make a choice. Being a non commercial, indie artist means that you don’t need to make any profit, you just release it for max consumption and let it do its work. Not hinder it with pulls from radio. It just has never made any sense. 

 

That’s why she is in a tug of war with execs and she’s probably losing capital with other bigger and profitable stars are capitalizing. And Ryan Tedder is over it lol

Mind you all the fabulous creatives working with her who spent their time and energy on her without getting a reward for it because she sits on these things will simply stop working for her. 

If I were a creative these days, I'd honestly rather work with DojaCat or Voldemort. At least my ideas and concepts would get full out Promotion and appreciation instead of being shelved.

 

She is literally, and I say it full-heartidly, so so stupid to jeopordize all of the good-will due to these antics. I just KNOW she thinks sending them flowers, Boxes of IVP or invitations to private parties is enough compensation.

https://x.com/boricuahive/status/1702740508357894344?s=46&t=DBEzweI3pkN0q0I7VG8vbQ
 

42 minutes ago, family.guy123 said:

Do you complain to people in your life about “the visuals”. 
 

No. That's why we do it here.

Truthfully, I thought they would at least try to avoid another Black is King/ Disney Plus situation from happening. However from what the article stated she is only looking for the price she requested, not how to get the most views possible. :(

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41 minutes ago, Kristie Kuwa said:

Lowkey enjoying the fact Beys supporters in here are also silent now. Nnnnn they know whats up

You are the ones without anything better to do than complaining, sorry. 

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52 minutes ago, Bicassie said:

Yeah i’m taking a break until something happens again

You are going to miss our meltdowns next month when she takes 7 days to post her Halloween costumes

Sorry I don't care and/or entertained by what 19 year old Olivia Rodriguez is doing.

 

I have one fave. 

Just now, carameldelight said:

Sorry I don't care and/or entertained by what 19 year old Olivia Rodriguez is doing.

 

I have one fave. 

If she’s you’re fave why you keep hating on her? Do you really hate yourself THAT much? 

Just now, Draper. said:

If she’s you’re fave why you keep hating on her? Do you really hate yourself THAT much? 

You view it as hating, I view it as critiquing. 

 

The era is a mess. I don't need to sugercoat.

1 minute ago, Draper. said:

If she’s you’re fave why you keep hating on her? Do you really hate yourself THAT much? 

No one hates her. People are just airing out their frustrations about what was promised/expected 

How many times are we going to have this conversation

Just now, carameldelight said:

You view it as hating, I view it as critiquing. 

 

The era is a mess. I don't need to sugercoat.

So what? There’s no point in bringing any content, rumor or theory here when the only people responding to it do it with such negative energy and bringing everything down with the same recycled complaints. Like, yeah she messed up but… move on?

It’s starting to feel like an echo chamber of complaining in here. We need bootlickers to combat the negative nancys, one cannot exist without the other, that is only way balance and peace can occur within this cursed basé. Yin and Yang

1 minute ago, Blue Rose said:

No one hates her. People are just airing out their frustrations about what was promised/expected 

How many times are we going to have this conversation

Well, there’s some people that haven’t been happy about anything. Not even on album release week. So yeah, I don’t mind calling it out.

Just now, Draper. said:

So what? There’s no point in bringing any content, rumor or theory here when the only people responding to it do it with such negative energy and bringing everything down with the same recycled complaints. Like, yeah she messed up but… move on?

People have posted theories and no one is discussing them because no one knows what is actually going on OR if anything will happen. As another font pointed out this thread as moved two pages in 3 days, that's not anyone's fault but the artist we all stan. 5 shows left and team parkwood has not indicated there is anything else to look forward to. 

 

I don't get how people don't see we are in a middle of an era, this isn't post lemonade where people are still complaining. It's all relevant and valid. 

 

You want another album ranking? 

I wonder why she spelt it cliquebait and not clickbait? Maybe hinting at Thique being the next single?

Just now, carameldelight said:

People have posted theories and no one is discussing them because no one knows what is actually going on OR if anything will happen. As another font pointed out this thread as moved two pages in 3 days, that's not anyone's fault but the artist we all stan. 5 shows left and team parkwood has not indicated there is anything else to look forward to. 

 

I don't get how people don't see we are in a middle of an era, this isn't post lemonade where people are still complaining. It's all relevant and valid. 

 

You want another album ranking? 

We are not in the middle of an era. The era is over. Time to move on. 

I’ve posted a million wiz theories and everyone has told me I’m delusional  even though I seriously believe they are on to something. 

3 minutes ago, family.guy123 said:

I wonder why she spelt it cliquebait and not clickbait? Maybe hinting at Thique being the next single?

Did you not read my baroque post/theory? 

3 minutes ago, Draper. said:

We are not in the middle of an era. The era is over. Time to move on. 

I guess there isn't a tour or anything happening right now. 

Some of y'all really like running around in circles... 

 

"Bootlicking hive" seemingly have better things to do then react to weekly recycled meltdowns 

 

 

 

6 minutes ago, carameldelight said:

I guess there isn't a tour or anything happening right now. 

4 hours ago, carameldelight said:

Basically, it's evident by now that the tour or era isn't continuing. They would have already made announcements. 

Well, you said it yourself.