15 minutes ago, bwhansen said:

Also I don't know if we've discussed this already but am I the only one who found it weird how she wore the Philly opening outfit again but during the AHAP section?? Like it's not even bee themed it felt so random

They're out of outfits?! fair market value of multimillion fashion brands was all we had left to look forward to

 

21 minutes ago, bwhansen said:

Also I don't know if we've discussed this already but am I the only one who found it weird how she wore the Philly opening outfit again but during the AHAP section?? Like it's not even bee themed it felt so random

Ya that was weird, considering if they didn't have a new one to debut they could have gone with ole reliable Mugler... it does feel off that one of the opening looks suddenly reappears. That being said, I do think it fit with the them. It's not bee themed but the shapes of the garment were similar to the dancers' Mugler bodysuits. If I had not seen it before I wouldn't think it was out of place.

Damn Vancouver didn’t even get a proper wiggle

 

 

45 minutes ago, QueenB said:

The way she said that to a tweet with a link to get people to vote for Bey at the VMA's, so unserious 

senile just like her employer 

 

 

1 hour ago, Shelter said:

We don’t need to see her sitting in the audience trying to put a show on like some  

 

I want to know what her next move is. 

I don't think anyone wants her to sit in the audience. I just want to see her perform. 

46 minutes ago, kimberly said:

I watched the highlights, Doja did great. 

i’m glad we have Doja at least, i don’t even stan or anything but she’s really the only new girl with some of that versatile, controversial & visual, Beyoncé/Gaga spirit left 

 

god Beyoncé please please please don’t retire for before you’re 65 you can’t leave us alone with these people 

1 hour ago, swissman said:

It seems like just nitpicking the quotes for the sake of trying to ignore what she's actually said. On the subject of accepting the way she is now, you said "when will beyonce ... let fans know?" and yet:

 

• She told us she is not here for commercial purposes.
• Her company told us that RENAISSANCE era would be offering a music-only/first experience.
• Her company told us that visuals would come later.
• Her company twitter alluded to the fact that the visuals would take a long while.
• And she herself stated that she wanted to do something like Prince and Sade's approach.

 

And I don't believe she is required to match Sade and Prince to the letter in order for her approach to be comparable or inspired by them, or for us to understand what she meant by that.

I also don't believe anyone said this rollout would be "of epic proportions". Unless I am mistaken, I only remember Yvette saying it would be a traditional rollout, which in many ways it was. The New York Times even wrote an article about how conventional a release it was for her.

 

 

I didn't nitpick quotes, I was only responding to the ones you posted. My when will Beyonce let fans know is not just referring to this moment with Renaissance. If her goal going forward is to no longer have eras/performances/engagement with fans, and to only tour then make that known. I'm  saying every statement is CONTRADICTED by her actions. 

 

• She is not here for commercial purposes- yet brags about being number 1 in the industry, attends an award show that always slights her to get a title of having the most awards, posts about getting a number one album. Sells remixes to get a number one single. Actually sent a song to radio to capitalize of the initial success, etc. (OF COURSE that's what she should be doing as a mainstream, legendary artist)
• "Renaissance is listening experience" only AFTER the visuals weren't complete. She sent out a VISUAL teaser two weeks after the album was out. If the intent was to marinate with the music for two years she should have said that. The dream and others said it was coming soon at the time and since stopped talking about it. 
• Visuals coming later WHEN????????? Three, four years???? It's dumb and there's no reason fans should have expected that. They knew no one thought later meant years.
• Parkwood said on 7.28.22 that visuals would come at a later date. At no point did they imply YEARS later. Again, that goes back to lack of proper communication. None of us are mind readers. 
• Again, she isn't acting like Sade so that comparison is out the window. Her taking artistic/creative control like Prince is to be commended however she is trying to sell to the highest bidder for her visuals, so at a certain point is it about the art or the dollars??? Not very Prince like.

 

My statement regarding a rollout of epic proportions was facetious.  However given that Parkwood hardly ever communicated prior about rollouts, the fact that Yvette took the time to actually say something about a traditional rollout ( which means PROMO) was significant. It's not farfetched for fans to think something more was going to happen. And I initially posted the NYT article, their perception was similar to fans that this era was going be very active. 

Edited September 13, 20233 yr by carameldelight

"Beyonce will be doing pops up all over the UK and can't wait to make this new album an experience for her fans."

 

1 hour ago, carameldelight said:

I didn't nitpick quotes, I was only responding to the ones you posted. My when will Beyonce let fans know is not just referring to this moment with Renaissance. If her goal going forward is to no longer have eras/performances/engagement with fans, and to only tour then make that known. I'm  saying every statement is CONTRADICTED by her actions. 

 

• She is not here for commercial purposes- yet brags about being number 1 in the industry, attends an award show that always slights her to get a title of having the most awards, posts about getting a number one album. Sells remixes to get a number one single. Actually sent a song to radio to capitalize of the initial success, etc. (OF COURSE that's what she should be doing as a mainstream, legendary artist)
• "Renaissance is listening experience" only AFTER the visuals weren't complete. She sent out a VISUAL teaser two weeks after the album was out. If the intent was to marinate with the music for two years she should have said that. The dream and others said it was coming soon at the time and since stopped talking about it. 
• Visuals coming later WHEN????????? Three, four years???? It's dumb and there's no reason fans should have expected that. They knew no one thought later meant years.
• Parkwood said on 7.28.22 that visuals would come at a later date. At no point did they imply YEARS later. Again, that goes back to lack of proper communication. None of us are mind readers. 
• Again, she isn't acting like Sade so that comparison is out the window. Her taking artistic/creative control like Prince is to be commended however she is trying to sell to the highest bidder for her visuals, so at a certain point is it about the art or the dollars??? Not very Prince like.

 

My statement regarding a rollout of epic proportions was facetious.  However given that Parkwood hardly ever communicated prior about rollouts, the fact that Yvette took the time to actually say something about a traditional rollout ( which means PROMO) was significant. It's not farfetched for fans to think something more was going to happen. And I initially posted the NYT article, their perception was similar to fans that this era was going be very active. 

I wrote a whole long response to every point but deleted it because most of it doesn't really matter.

 

 

My point is simple. You're asking for Beyoncé to have told us how she's going to operate, and yet she very very clearly has.

 

Did she or did she* not say the visuals would come later, before the album was even released?
Did she or did she* not say the intention of the album to make it all about the music, not the visuals?
Did she or did she* not reference, even as a joke, how long the visuals would take to be released?
Did she or did she not reference two artists widely known to be mysterious, hands-off, reclusive, private, and music-first?

If she didn't say any of these things, then sure, she should clarify for us what her intentions are this era. But she very clearly has.

 

*she=parkwood in those cases

 

 

Edited September 13, 20233 yr by swissman

2 hours ago, SashaDevachelli said:

Yvette hasn’t said “not true” to any of the Halle being pregnant rumors, this is my 9/11 Halle please save yourself 

i mean did you see the face-tuning halle did to her stomach on instagram? its kind of obvious  the windows are bending 

Edited September 13, 20233 yr by yonsé

I just think expecting Beyoncé to have said WHEN the visuals will drop in the press release saying they would be at a later date (which I think is also the first official moment we even knew they existed) is so outrageous to me.

 

Would people have preferred to not know about them at all? Probably, I guess, based on the way their mere unreleased existence seems to torment people.

 

 

Edited September 13, 20233 yr by swissman

Anyway, what are we gonna fight about when the page count gets to 9481?

22 minutes ago, ShouldersSideways said:

"Beyonce will be doing pops up all over the UK and can't wait to make this new album an experience for her fans."

 

Was that really said? 
 

3 hours ago, ScorpiosGroove said:

let’s forget about the FLOPMA’s and address the real evil : her not doing choreo like this for VG 

 

https://x.com/beyzhive/status/1701984157578952834?s=20

 

Oh my god I hope Victoria will come to Europe on day!!! This show looks so fun!

 

OT: You're so right. VG deserved such a bigger moment...

Honestly bey’s team could have said the visuals were coming in 2024. Not visuals sometime between 2022 and 2030 

Edited September 13, 20233 yr by sillycilla

13 minutes ago, swissman said:

I just think expecting Beyoncé to have said WHEN the visuals will drop in the press release saying they would be at a later date (which I think is also the first official moment we even knew they existed) is so outrageous to me.

 

Would people have preferred to not know about them at all? Probably, I guess, based on the way their mere unreleased existence seems to torment people.

 

 

Dont act obtuse. For years we said all we want is communication, and then they started the era correctly with BMS + Rennie (great rollout that worked out perfectly) and purposefully teased these projects (acts + visuals) in advance to calm us down. 

 

Only for us to be here, more than 1 year later, with the same amount of knowledge.

 

THAT is clear bullshit

5 minutes ago, sillycilla said:

Was that really said? 
 

yes, and what an experience it was to see $400 tshirts and outfits for visuals we don't have

 

new season of Dancing with the Stars doing a chrome photoshoot 

 

not them booking Jamie Lynn Spears 

 

 

Just now, Kristie Kuwa said:

Dont act obtuse. For years we said all we want is communication, and then they started the era correctly with BMS + Rennie (great rollout that worked out perfectly) and purposefully teased these projects (acts + visuals) in advance to calm us down. 

 

Only for us to be here, more than 1 year later, with the same amount of knowledge.

 

THAT is clear bullshit

We have the same amount of knowledge because the same amount of knowledge still applies.

25 minutes ago, sillycilla said:

Was that really said? 
 

Yes, by a source to metro.co.uk.

 

 

Edited September 13, 20233 yr by swissman

Essence website has her confirmed as a headliner for their festival next year

 

https://essencefestivalinfo.com/essence-festival-2024-lineup/

2 minutes ago, Fitzswiftie said:

Essence website has her confirmed as a headliner for their festival next year

 

https://essencefestivalinfo.com/essence-festival-2024-lineup/

NOW THAT'S SOMETHING TO CELEBRATE!!!!!!

4 minutes ago, Fitzswiftie said:

Essence website has her confirmed as a headliner for their festival next year

 

https://essencefestivalinfo.com/essence-festival-2024-lineup/

And you expect me to believe this?

10 minutes ago, Fitzswiftie said:

Essence website has her confirmed as a headliner for their festival next year

 

https://essencefestivalinfo.com/essence-festival-2024-lineup/

That page doesn't look legit, so I'll remain Skeptical incase someone has just stolen that URL. These are the regular Essence pages

 

https://www.essence.com/essence-festival-2023-home/

not a fake website  I don't expect Beyoncé to play any festivals at this point in her career when she can fill a stadium and bag $16 million by herself. 

 

unless Jeff Bezos is personally financing it, I don't see it lol. even Coachella couldn't afford her now.