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Beyoncé

This is part 1 of the Beyoncé discussion.

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16 minutes ago, nooniebao said:

Yeah, it’s a big reason why I don’t actually think she’s been stingy this era if the actual stuff we are getting is still of very high quality. And super well executed to boot imo

Yeah I don’t think she’s being stingy at all, I think she executes so well every time people just wanna see her keep doing it again without appreciating what she’s already done. I think Taylor took the wind out beneath her a little bit with the Eras tour becoming the cultural moment it is out of nowhere but that isn’t anything Beyoncé hasn’t done herself like with self titled and lemonade. She is firmly a legend and historical figure in music so I think people need to be a less anxious about her delivering, she always does, just my outsider take on the reception to this era :ducky:

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2 hours ago, swissman said:

Besides the teaser, what teasing has she done though?

srsly?
 

-The poosee pink shirt

-the echo newspaper being the cover of delresto with zero explanation 

-the glitter kitty and unique ufo Easter eggs on said cover

-the various pictures in the tour book/album booklet

-the tour interludes being literal clips from the film

-“you’ve asked for the visuals. A queen moves at her own pace binch”

-I’m that girl teaser

-you ARE the visuals baby

-this tweet? 
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Edited by yonsé

Um we all know damn well when she releases another album, we'll listen to it.

 

When she goes on tour AGAIN, we're going to go.

 

:hippo:

5 minutes ago, Chris said:

Um we all know damn well when she releases another album, we'll listen to it.

 

When she goes on tour AGAIN, we're going to go.

 

:hippo:

Literally this…that’s why I could care less when ya’ll complain. 

its been the same copy & paste arguments for the last 52 weeks...some of yall still aint got it and I don't understand why??

 

what SPECIFICALLY does she need to say or do at this point before yall get a clue?? please get it out before this dumbfounded crybaby **** goes into Act 2 with it

 

the desperate need to have stats back you up for online stan arguments is what's ruining it for you. detach from stats & you'll have a better experience.

 

 

1 hour ago, Blue Rose said:

I don’t think any of the “meltdowns” are serious. We just love to exaggerate for comedy and it’s all coming from a good place. Now things get funnier when  Kiss Ass Hive swarm the Base writing paragraphs calling us bad fans :lmao: 

The fact remains that this has been a boring era and fans deal with that differently 

Like... let us vent about a lackluster era for her best album of all time. I swear kiss ass hive are making up critiques we said, we never cared about "stats" to use against other fanbases nor did we ever complain about the quality of the music being put out :lmao: 

1 hour ago, bwhansen said:

She could've easily given us the Gift/Ren singles/greatest hits tour and skipped stuff like POTS or Energy but she went the risky route and is performing the ENTIRE ALBUM while skipping some of the obvious massive hits like Single Ladies or Halo that the gp could've been expecting. Literally who else is doing that 25 years into their career? Fans are getting fed with a near 3 hour show that is all about celebrating this entire body of art. Except Thique. Sorry Thique fans.

The "no skips" tour actually skips two songs :giraffe:

59 minutes ago, yonsé said:

srsly?
 

-The poosee pink shirt

-the echo newspaper being the cover of delresto with zero explanation 

-the glitter kitty and unique ufo Easter eggs on said cover

-the various pictures in the tour book/album booklet

-the tour interludes being literal clips from the film

-“you’ve asked for the visuals. A queen moves at her own pace binch”

-I’m that girl teaser

-you ARE the visuals baby

-this tweet? 
they-think-this-a-joke-oh-okay-v0-8u3dea

In a whole year she teased less than T****r S***t does in a single day 

I’m so happy for Blue:weeps: the way the crowd and Bey hype her up every time is just so sweet, I really hope she performs on my date:jonny5:

7 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

In a whole year she teased less than T****r S***t does in a single day 

Okay? So? This is the Beyoncé base. I’m not a swiftie so idc.

 

the person asked what she did. I answered. Also, Taylor interacts with her fans and actually releases the sh*t she teases. So? What now?

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Not to beat a dead reneigh but has anyone come up with a realistic theory (from a production/tour/logistics perspective) of why Thique/AUIYM/DIL would be cut? I mainly don't see why it'd make sense for her to cut it after the first show rather than to cut it during rehearsals before anyone even saw it. Also why would her team keep adding it to the setlist print-out but just cross it out rather than remove it altogether. Idk how tour management works so I'm curious if anyone does

4 minutes ago, Subversive said:

Not to beat a dead reneigh but has anyone come up with a realistic theory (from a production/tour/logistics perspective) of why Thique/AUIYM/DIL would be cut? I mainly don't see why it'd make sense for her to cut it after the first show rather than to cut it during rehearsals before anyone even saw it. Also why would her team keep adding it to the setlist print-out but just cross it out rather than remove it altogether. Idk how tour management works so I'm curious if anyone does

she always makes cuts and setlist changes after the first show. she has ambitious ideas and they don’t always work once executed. IAWT she started with the sasha hair and ended with the signature curls. FWT she had sweet dreams and the screen lift that was cut after the first night (only to be reutilized for 6 inch on the last night). OTR II integrated everything is love on it once dropped. Mrs carter show integrated self titled once dropped. Retooling her shows mid-tour is not uncommon. It’s just annoying.

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3 minutes ago, Subversive said:

Not to beat a dead reneigh but has anyone come up with a realistic theory (from a production/tour/logistics perspective) of why Thique/AUIYM/DIL would be cut? I mainly don't see why it'd make sense for her to cut it after the first show rather than to cut it during rehearsals before anyone even saw it. Also why would her team keep adding it to the setlist print-out but just cross it out rather than remove it altogether. Idk how tour management works so I'm curious if anyone does

Maybe to save time since she wants to start late every night. Her publicist probably told her to cut the songs that have by far the least streams + DIL to not reignite the Tina Turner lashings. Speaking of DIL I forget she went viral this year for that riff. It feels like forever ago. That was truly one of the most special moments of her career. Another fumble because she had every viral post taken down on social media and now the public forgot it existed. It is one of the most addicting sounds I’ve ever heard. She pisses me off

The live version of the "Honey" section of PURE/HONEY is so. GOOD. The new snare/clap they added sounds amazing, I hope we get a live album.

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1 hour ago, yonsé said:

srsly?
 

-The poosee pink shirt

-the echo newspaper being the cover of delresto with zero explanation 

-the glitter kitty and unique ufo Easter eggs on said cover

-the various pictures in the tour book/album booklet

-the tour interludes being literal clips from the film

-“you’ve asked for the visuals. A queen moves at her own pace binch”

-I’m that girl teaser

-you ARE the visuals baby

-this tweet? 
they-think-this-a-joke-oh-okay-v0-8u3dea

But let's look at what all of this "teasing" actually says.

 

 

BEYONCÉ/PARKWOOD TALKING ABOUT HOW THE VISUALS WON'T BE SOON

 

1) ["A queen moves at her own pace"] They're going to be ready when they're ready

2) ["You are the visuals baby"] The visuals are not coming right now

3) [the tweet] It's going to be a while before the visuals drop

 

THE HIVE DECIDING THE VISUALS ARE COMING SOON:

-The poosee pink shirt

-the echo newspaper being the cover of delresto with zero explanation 

-the glitter kitty and unique ufo Easter eggs on said cover

-the various pictures in the tour book/album booklet

-the tour interludes being literal clips from the film

 

I understand that some of these things have "teased" the visuals in the sense that it gets one excited by association, but a lot of the imagery we've seen has also been in the album booklet itself and given she is on tour, there is going to be a demand for visuals new, and "old". The fact that Beyoncé has used clips from what we understand to be the visuals on HER tour shouldn't be seen as any sort of trolling on her part, it's literally content she created to express the album. Should she not use it, simply because she's not ready to release the visual album yet? I think we often read way too much into things, including just having something.

 

 

7 minutes ago, swissman said:

But let's look at what all of this "teasing" actually says.

 

 

BEYONCÉ/PARKWOOD TALKING ABOUT HOW THE VISUALS WON'T BE SOON

 

1) ["A queen moves at her own pace"] They're going to be ready when they're ready

2) ["You are the visuals baby"] The visuals are not coming right now

3) [the tweet] It's going to be a while before the visuals drop

 

THE HIVE DECIDING THE VISUALS ARE COMING SOON:

 

-The poosee pink shirt

-the echo newspaper being the cover of delresto with zero explanation 

-the glitter kitty and unique ufo Easter eggs on said cover

-the various pictures in the tour book/album booklet

-the tour interludes being literal clips from the film

 

I understand that some of these things have "teased" the visuals in the sense that it gets one excited by association, but a lot of the imagery we've seen has also been in the album booklet itself and given she is on tour, there is going to be a demand for visuals new, and "old". The fact that Beyoncé has used clips from what we understand to be the visuals on HER tour shouldn't be seen as any sort of trolling on her part, it's literally content she created to express the album. Should she not use it, simply because she's not ready to release the visual album yet? I think we often read way too much into things, including just having something.

 

 

Cool. We’ve been waiting a year. This argument might’ve worked when the album just dropped but it’s not wrong to be frustrated when we’ve gone a whole year with nothing but silence and teases.

 

she hasn’t even explained the world of the album. The teasing is vague. What does the newspaper mean? Why doesn’t she care to explain and instead giggles? Of course ppl are irritated? We get a shirt with a character from a movie but we know literally nothing about it? It’s illogical.

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the obsessive nature of them is seeming unhinged...do yall really be playing Black is King, ST, Lemonade. etc era videos like that?? i've probably watched them twice...Renaissance videos will likely be no different.

 

i really dont care...she can shelve them...i'm far more looking forward to a concert + live album release. much more replay value.

Her stuff is good because she has a vision, she works on it and she gets things done. She releases it when it’s ready. She did it with the Self-Titled and it changed the game. If you want good stuff, trust the process. Quality over quantity. 

45 minutes ago, QueenB said:

Like... let us vent about a lackluster era for her best album of all time.

I absolutely get the need to vent and I think this is the place to do it. This base should serve to enrich our fan experiences by allowing us to discuss Beyoncé in all ways, surrounded by people who are here for the same reason.

 

But as there are those who want to come here to vent, there are those who come for different reasons.

 

If people want to vent, by all means do, but there shouldn't be surprise when at some point there is a response to what feels like never ending complaining. This is a forum, after all, not a bulletin board and though often it's in jest, a lot of the time it seems like just being mad to be mad. Venting would imply after you've said it you feel better, but so often this base is a merry-go-round of the same complaints.

oh brother, do you watch Single Ladies every night before bed? No. Did it compliment the era and bring new energy to the song you didnt have before? Yes, it makes the era FUN.

 

Our apologies for looking forward to a product advertised a year ago with a trailer from one of if not THEE greatest visual artist on the planet, and instead getting toilet water and a "thanks for the year" $700 tiffany necklace. 

22 minutes ago, yonsé said:

Cool. We’ve been waiting a year. This argument might’ve worked when the album just dropped but it’s not wrong to be frustrated when we’ve gone a whole year with nothing but silence and teases.

 

she hasn’t even explained the world of the album. The teasing is vague. What does the newspaper mean? Why doesn’t she care to explain and instead giggles? Of course ppl are irritated? We get a shirt with a character from a movie but we know literally nothing about it? It’s illogical.

I'm not saying it's wrong to be frustrated, but that a lot of the frustration has come because people have read into things that don't need to mean something. For example: the tour t-shirt is just a t-shirt. The scene it's from has been on the tour every night. It's an image of Beyoncé from a video seen on the tour.

 

 

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13 minutes ago, giRLbye. said:

the obsessive nature of them is seeming unhinged...do yall really be playing Black is King, ST, Lemonade. etc era videos like that?? i've probably watched them twice...Renaissance videos will likely be no different.

 

i really dont care...she can shelve them...i'm far more looking forward to a concert + live album release. much more replay value.

Is this open field to say my true feelings about BIK? Cause I could not follow that storyline at all. It was definitely high budget, beautiful, artistic, scenes but she could’ve kept the whole little boy character and just named it “Music videos for an album I secretly released a year ago” and called it a day. Lemonade is by far her strongest visual concept and the most rewatchable

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