Beyoncé's reputation isn't strong enough to save Michael's. For better or worse, in the mind of the general public, Michael was a pedophile. All you're doing is besmirching her character and encouraging people to question her judgment.

Did not even realize Formation's 10th anniversary was earlier this month. The way this classic keeps aging like the finest of wines

15 hours ago, V$. said:

Someone please do some research, a study, we need to know what causes this phenomenon of talking about Beyoncé on X/Twitter every week.

Now they're saying that the Horsé Lady isn't known in Asia, Africa, and I don't know where else. Not to mention the impact of Britney Spears versus Giselle.

They always repeat the same thing! Could even make a calendar. For example, they bring up Aalyah to talk about Beyoncé twice a year. This is annoying.

She's not giving anything to talk about so old theories will be all people have to hang on to. Plus what has she given Asia or Africa since 2009? That one concert in 2018 with Jay Z? That one quick lil visit to Japan which was mainly for the whiskey?

Parkwood is extremely local and doesn't have the capabilities to promote over there. Same with South America, they did that one off Brazil thing where nothing was announced and she showed up for 2 minutes and dipped.

Posting some pics on Instagram can isn't the flex she thinks it is anymore. Add in three no visuals to keep the tik tok generation interested. It's a new generation of music listeners post pandemic, Asia used to mimic/be influenced by all her dance moves, performance style and showmanship but now there's barely live performances just the tour seen from fan recorded videos, no music videos, she doesn't dance as much so what's there to keep the interest?

Twitter is a mess and with these "files" released everyone wants to have their own theories and speculations.

5 hours ago, Lovett said:

@beyonceparkwood Genuinely, what is wrong with you? Why do you keep creating these threads to set her up? You knew full well that creating a thread about Michael f*cking Jackson would have ATRL calling her a pedo supporter. There was no need whatsoever. You keep doing this...

Wake it up baby, mashallah

Beyonce is one celebrity that I can say be having all races of people jealous AF of her. Her family was not lying lol. If Bey is so irrelevant people wouldn't be trying so hard to make her seem local. Also how you gone say Africa doesn't know her? Her face is literally on food cans over there and from the fighting temptations era braids. If Bey was considered untalented they wouldn't be doing all of this cope. It's not Bey fault that she is better than a lot of them YT girls and is more critically acclaimed.

Yes @beyonceparkwood was wrong for making that thread but I feel like regardless people are still going to be bothered about Beyonce. If not Michael Jackson or Jay Z, they will find something else as usual.

Pay them no attention.

20 minutes ago, futuresuperstar2023 said:

Beyonce is one celebrity that I can say be having all races of people jealous AF of her. Her family was not lying lol. If Bey is so irrelevant people wouldn't be trying so hard to make her seem local. Also how you gone say Africa doesn't know her? Her face is literally on food cans over there and from the fighting temptations era braids. If Bey was considered untalented they wouldn't be doing all of this cope. It's not Bey fault that she is better than a lot of them YT girls and is more critically acclaimed.

Always remember - the moment Bey would do gigs in Malaysia, the Philippines, China, South Korea, Nigeria, South Africa, Ghana, etc:

a) it would be sold out

b) her entire catalog would receive a crazy boost

Bey not "performing" that well in these continents has to do with her not having stepped a foot in there in 15+ years + focussing a lot of her messages on US BLACK experiences.

Lawd have mercy chile…..

3 hours ago, CallumDavies said:

Beyoncé's reputation isn't strong enough to save Michael's. For better or worse, in the mind of the general public, Michael was a pedophile. All you're doing is besmirching her character and encouraging people to question her judgment.

"In the mind of the general public" stop shittalking MJ's legacy, when he's very much loved. ATRL nor Twitter = the GP. Y'all are so disrespectful in here about anyone INCLUDING Beyoncé and her craftmanship…

3 hours ago, CallumDavies said:

Beyoncé's reputation isn't strong enough to save Michael's. For better or worse, in the mind of the general public, Michael was a pedophile. All you're doing is besmirching her character and encouraging people to question her judgment.

Michael is still beloved by the GP. Most people don't care about the allegations like ATRL does.

48 minutes ago, Kristie Kuwa said:

Always remember - the moment Bey would do gigs in Malaysia, the Philippines, China, South Korea, Nigeria, South Africa, Ghana, etc:

a) it would be sold out

b) her entire catalog would receive a crazy boost

Bey not "performing" that well in these continents has to do with her not having stepped a foot in there in 15+ years + focussing a lot of her messages on US BLACK experiences.

She should focus on that but also it's the same people she's catering to who are the fastest to tear her down. They're the first to focus on pics with Diddy, know Jay, follow all the MJ conspiracies. Tina Turner focused overseas after the US didn't do her right and that move furthered her career.

Why not shoot a video overseas like PIIALS (that gave her huge exposure in Brazil, only for it to be sacked), plan a tour with a few select dates and park and bark. After the CC tour she knows she doesn't have to move much, just hit a big city several nights and people will go to her (which I hate that we are rewarding her for that as it sucks for the fans but it saves so much on travel costs so great for logistics and her capitalist ass). Now meet people in the middle and go to Australia, Asia, Africa and South America to a big city each.

Even just placing more trust in Columbia Records wouldn't be so horrible. Just look at Cuff It vs her wanting Church Girl. Texas did great everywhere, let them push other songs and work their ways. Is it bad to want her to have the exposure she can clearly achieve? She doesn't have to sacrifice her art for it and it doesn't mean it will be diminished. She clearly is choosing quick lil jingles as leads and they work. Meet in the middle and let other work be pushed. But Parkwood clearly doesn't have the capabilities to do so. Lean into Columbia a bit more and snatch a big global campaign to pay for touring costs.

so… act iii lead on easter weekend right

Atrl and stans are racist AF in general and I don't know why people try to cover it up. I hate the performative energy of screaming rape apologist for false allegations while Lady gaga literally made a song called do you what you want with a Known pedophile R&B singer that was on a sex tape with a child. She even defended him at first. It's strange that stans keep calling Jay Z a pedo and rapist without any actual proof. It's just another dig at Beyonce to use in a stan war.

MJ is obviously known but he is not remembered that well, his later life and skin bleaching/kid issues is a huge part of his legacy. Nobody solely thinks of him for his 80s/90s eras.

If you do it's the same delusion as Britney fans hanging on to just 1999-2003 and trying to ignore the **** show of 2007 onwards. It's a whole painted picture and you can't ignore those messy strokes. As much as you want to, they're prevalent and there.

26 minutes ago, GoatGly said:

Michael is still beloved by the GP. Most people don't care about the allegations like ATRL does.

Following HBO's "Leaving Neverland" documentary, almost half of Americans (48%) say that Michael Jackson is likely guilty of child molestation, new YouGov research finds. The number represents a 7 percentage point increase over last week, before the documentary aired, while the percentage of people who believe he's innocent (19%) remained the same

https://today.yougov.com/politics/articles/22628-americans-believe-michael-jackson-guilty-poll

I've always said that Bey needs to tap into international places because they love her down. I hate to say this but a lot of people in the black community in the US think that they own her. They be pushing the local **** too on her and I'm guessing that's why they stay trying to cancel her because they feel like it will be easier since in their eyes only black women and black gay men stan her. Beyonce advocating for Black people and being comfortable in her blackness doesn't make it okay for them to try to gate-keep her away from other audiences. It's very sinister and they tried that **** several times. A lot of them got mad when YT people was using Cecred. A lot of them also was apparently shocked that different races was at her Cowboy Carter Concert. I feel like they be trying to **** up her money and make other races of people scared to support her. As a black person I feel like I'm allowed to share my grievances lmao. Black Women have it hard in this Industry. I would be down for Bey to pull a Tina Turner because this **** is ghetto and tiring.

1 hour ago, ScorpiosGroove said:

so… act iii lead on easter weekend right

Crazy how much 10 years changes this except for Beyonce.

Kim, in the background selling panties. Kanye went loony. North, bless her. Kelly the 3rd best in DC3 now. Rihanna, rihtired. Solange, out of the picture. Nicki, MAGA.

Never let white gays fool you into believing that their favs are on the same level of Beyonce.

Remember:

a) a BLACK artist has to achieve double to get the same recognition => double the work, double the talent, double the ubiquity

b) Bey had crazy success even before she went solo with DC, one of the most iconic and best selling girl groups of ALL TIME.

For any white artist to "pass" a black artist in any ranking, they need to have sold significantly more to make up for the fact that black artists have to face institutionalized racism. The likes of Janet, Bey, Whitney, Tina Turner, and Rih had to be exceptionally good at what they were doing to get to the level of fame and success they had (I dont count Mariah since shes white passing and thus has never experienced racism to the degree of the others, especially in Asia for instance)

Ok extremely shady… I'm in the Caribbean on vacation and I just looked up "Renaissance Beyonce" on google and not a single image of the album cover as the first hits… just this shitty LQ pic of the cover from wiki

Test?

If Bey was selling millions of variants way after her album release people would be calling her sales Fake AF. I bet that scamming **** would also be shut down by the music industry. I low-key wish Bey would scam lmao.

Sometimes I prefer Cowboy Carter over Renaissance.

Other days, it's the opposite.

22 minutes ago, Chris said:

Sometimes I prefer Cowboy Carter over Renaissance.

Other days, it's the opposite.

Glad you shared this.

43 minutes ago, Triton said:

Ok extremely shady… I'm in the Caribbean on vacation and I just looked up "Renaissance Beyonce" on google and not a single image of the album cover as the first hits… just this shitty LQ pic of the cover from wiki

pretty sure it's because of the nudity

sites like albumoftheyear also censor the cover

give it to mama