1 minute ago, Hazy said:

what did MHJ do to ILLIT and LSRFM? please enlighten me 

not her fault they already had other controversies before HYBE revealed her INTERNAL compliant and organised a witch hunt 

 

yes, she did those press conferences because she needed a platform to tell her truth! it wasn't only about her but also about the agency and group she, as the CEO, was responsible for! HYBE wasn't backing up ADOR in any way and they have a big PR machine behind them. what other solution would you suggest? how should she address it? 

 

Fearnots and Glitts should back up NJZ, because all of the groups were either mistreated or treated with negligence, because how can you internally put your own groups against each other, plot their downfall, steal from each other and act like it's okay? this is disrespectful to all of those groups from HYBE's side 

 

the level of misconduct is really big, but I have no idea why MHJ is blamed for it when those things were HYBE's idea? they basically used one of the best creative minds in the kpop business and thought they would be able to just dump her and her group like that, right after exploiting her ideas? 

Again, I'm not questioning her intentions and for looking out for the interests of NewJeans and herself, I'm merely explaining why you should not expect any Fearnots and Glitts to support her. Her actions and words undermined their public image, motivation, and work while they were completely unable to defend themselves in any capacity. Literally just cause and effect. Yes, HYBE shares blame in all this but the girls are stuck with them and they have no other spokesperson in this. 

 

I'd understand more if the ILLIT plagiarism accusations didn't all boil down to "they have a similar vibe", which is crazy because back when Magnetic came out nobody was saying this

Just now, Butters said:

Again, I'm not questioning her intentions and for looking out for the interests of NewJeans and herself, I'm merely explaining why you should not expect any Fearnots and Glitts to support her. Her actions and words undermined their public image, motivation, and work while they were completely unable to defend themselves in any capacity. Literally just cause and effect. Yes, HYBE shares blame in all this but the girls are stuck with them and they have no other spokesperson in this. 

 

I'd understand more if the ILLIT plagiarism accusations didn't all boil down to "they have a similar vibe", which is crazy because back when Magnetic came out nobody was saying this

Girl EVERYBODY SAID IT even before any of this stuff came out?!?! People were literally calling them NewNewJeans and comparing how similar everything was it's not just a "vibe" thing. Y'all really don't take creativity and intellectual property seriously which is why we can't have great artists anymore, because sheep on the internet who know nothing about the arts say **** like this 

The new season of Street Woman Fighter is coming and Royal Family is participating

 

 

So glad the law is taking effect. Torn jeans lies being dismantled one by one and you guys still double down. I have to laugh! Rooting for illit and lsfm. No other group in Kpop has been as entitled as the torn jeanz girlies. Expect a big backlash from my honest, unbiased opinion of the new jeans girlies but idc. We need less bias in this thread  

imagine defending big corporations led by nasty ass men. 

6 minutes ago, Cyanide said:

Girl EVERYBODY SAID IT even before any of this stuff came out?!?! People were literally calling them NewNewJeans and comparing how similar everything was it's not just a "vibe" thing. Y'all really don't take creativity and intellectual property seriously which is why we can't have great artists anymore, because sheep on the internet who know nothing about the arts say **** like this 

the whole internet was saying it as soon as they debuted but MJH says it and suddenly she's responsible for the backlash when it was her concept they were stealing in the first place lol

 

1 minute ago, youcallingmyname said:

So glad the law is taking effect. Torn jeans lies being dismantled one by one and you guys still double down. I have to laugh! Rooting for illit and lsfm. No other group in Kpop has been as entitled as the torn jeanz girlies. Expect a big backlash from my honest, unbiased opinion of the new jeans girlies but idc. We need less bias in this thread  

lmaooo you thought you ate

Great more trolls in the thread, just what we need 

1 minute ago, K$Ellie said:

the whole internet was saying it as soon as they debuted but MJH says it and suddenly she's responsible for the backlash when it was her concept they were stealing in the first place lol

 

lmaooo you thought you ate

I said what I said. Public opinion changing is music to my ears. They can't lie forever and expect the truth not to come out. The torn jeans fans are really losing it and I love that for y'all. 

Just now, youcallingmyname said:

I said what I said. Public opinion changing is music to my ears. They can't lie forever and expect the truth not to come out. The torn jeans fans are really losing it and I love that for y'all. 

again you're not being funny or witty you're just being weird…

13 minutes ago, Cyanide said:

Girl EVERYBODY SAID IT even before any of this stuff came out?!?! People were literally calling them NewNewJeans and comparing how similar everything was it's not just a "vibe" thing. Y'all really don't take creativity and intellectual property seriously which is why we can't have great artists anymore, because sheep on the internet who know nothing about the arts say **** like this 

What creative and intellectual property did ILLIT snatch for Magnetic tho? am i a philistine because I don't generally consider trendy fashion styles, magazine cover shoots, and specific choreo movements to be creative and intellectual property. I agree the marketing was similar and am not denying the predebut buzz, I just dont think there was plagiarism involved and there weren't any NewJeans comparisons found in Magnetic, which was the product that ultimately matters which is the music!  

Edited March 25, 20251 yr by Butters

Imagining thinking I give two craps about big corporations. I am unbiased. I just support the truth and not some half assed lies created by entitled, spoiled brats who had no problem bringing an innocent group into their lies and drama. I actually am a supporter of groups who went through real mistreatment.

like the fact they lied about something easily disproven by video and yall still want to pretend torn jeans are the virtue of truth. I laugh and I laugh

3 minutes ago, Butters said:

Again, I'm not questioning her intentions and for looking out for the interests of NewJeans and herself, I'm merely explaining why you should not expect any Fearnots and Glitts to support her. Her actions and words undermined their public image, motivation, and work while they were completely unable to defend themselves in any capacity. Literally just cause and effect. Yes, HYBE shares blame in all this but the girls are stuck with them and they have no other spokesperson in this. 

 

I'd understand more if the ILLIT plagiarism accusations didn't all boil down to "they have a similar vibe", which is crazy because back when Magnetic came out nobody was saying this

there were literally files revealed where NJZ and ILLIT concepts were compared and the similarities were obvious. and that's a fraction of info that was made public - who knows how far did it go behind the scenes? the similarities in the choreo made it to the government. in the internal reports that got leaked, HYBE was literally studying NJZ and other girl groups and plotted how could they get rid of the girls and replace them with their version of the group with their style 

 

I get that ILLIT and LSRFM are stuck with HYBE but so are NJZ (for now) and HYBE is plotting only against one of those groups. it takes courage to stand for themselves and it speaks volume about the artistry and personality of the ones who are able to do so. I don't see HYBE being generous with the girls, Hyein was seen numerous times crying because all of this, she's 16. she was also a huge BTS fan and they tried to destroy her and her team. yet HYBE stans hate not only MHJ but also NJZ, daily, because they sided with the only person who cared about them and didn't want to dump them silently 

 

it's not MHJ who undermined ILLIT and LSRFM's work - their teams were shameless and wanted to get a piece out of the NJZ cake - they are victims of HYBE and BSH, not MHJ, time to understand it - it's HYBE who painted the picture this way and pushed all of the fault on MHJ

2 minutes ago, K$Ellie said:

the whole internet was saying it as soon as they debuted but MJH says it and suddenly she's responsible for the backlash when it was her concept they were stealing in the first place lol

 

lmaooo you thought you ate

Literally they're so dishonest and manipulative it's crazy. Especially since it's BEEN confirmed that they asked for the debut plans and everything. Even if they all wore t shirts that said "NewNewJeans" their dumb fans would say the girls and MHJ are narcissistic and think everyone is copying them  

 

not to mention the girls have done absolutely NOTHING wrong in this situation other than side with their trusted adult in the industry that ACTUALLY cares for them as people like…. Calling MHJ a "groomer" and "pedo" and then turning around to support bang pigd and his minions that had eunchae humping the floor at 15? Are they r-worded? 

2 minutes ago, youcallingmyname said:

Imagining thinking I give two craps about big corporations. I am unbiased. I just support the truth and not some half assed lies created by entitled, spoiled brats who had no problem bringing an innocent group into their lies and drama. I actually am a supporter of groups who went through real mistreatment.

like the fact they lied about some to big easily disproven by video and hall still want to pretend torn jeans are the virtue of truth. I laugh and I laugh

I just know you're an overweight 30+yo man on the spectrum thinking you ate with "torn jeans" 

4 minutes ago, Butters said:

What creative and intellectual property did ILLIT snatch for Magnetic tho? am i a philistine because I don't generally consider trendy fashion styles, magazine cover shoots, and specific choreo movements to be creative and intellectual property. I agree the marketing was similar and am not denying the predebut buzz, I just dont think there was plagiarism involved and there weren't any NewJeans comparisons found in Magnetic, which was the product that ultimately matters which is the music!  

Imagine thinking torn jeans owns those and using it to create baseless lies about illit. Laughing 

6 minutes ago, youcallingmyname said:

I said what I said. Public opinion changing is music to my ears. They can't lie forever and expect the truth not to come out. The torn jeans fans are really losing it and I love that for y'all. 

I hope you will buy yourself something pretty since the check was cleared 

Just now, Cyanide said:

I just know you're an overweight 30+yo man on the spectrum thinking you ate with "torn jeans" 

Weird as **** to quote me with this sad personal attack. Like I said torn jeans fans are losing it

3 minutes ago, Cyanide said:

Literally they're so dishonest and manipulative it's crazy. Especially since it's BEEN confirmed that they asked for the debut plans and everything. Even if they all wore t shirts that said "NewNewJeans" their dumb fans would say the girls and MHJ are narcissistic and think everyone is copying them  

 

not to mention the girls have done absolutely NOTHING wrong in this situation other than side with their trusted adult in the industry that ACTUALLY cares for them as people like…. Calling MHJ a "groomer" and "pedo" and then turning around to support bang pigd and his minions that had eunchae humping the floor at 15? Are they r-worded? 

oh yeah any time they call MJH a pedo I just assume they're a bitter BTS or LSRF stan cause there's no way  like call her weird if you want but a groomer is just uncalled for and really shows your bias fff

Oh I quoted the wrong person 🧍‍♀️ 

Edited March 25, 20251 yr by JO1s

Just now, Hazy said:

I hope you will buy yourself something pretty since the check was cleared 

Deflect, it won't change that public opinion is changing on your entitled princesses. 

isn't this the highest debut for a soloist at SM? 

cmon TEN 

 

2 minutes ago, Cyanide said:

I just know you're an overweight 30+yo man on the spectrum thinking you ate with "torn jeans" 

and he's STILL doubling down on this corny drag

 

1 hour ago, Butters said:

LOL lets be real western media could not tell apart SNSD from Gugudan

Western media got JO1 right, and they have almost 0 presence overseas. 

Anyways disengaging for now because I don't want to be associated with NewJeans antis and cleansing the page with this 

 

Just now, youresotoxic said:

isn't this the highest debut for a soloist at SM? 

cmon TEN 

 

 

it is