51 minutes ago, Pluto6 said:

I don't think anyone would've predicted the entire project smashing like this. Like the hype wasn't even that big up until release day  

This has obviously reached outside of the Kpop circle 

 

The fact that one of these songs will be nominated at the Oscars 

The BABYMONSTER song  This group has to be a social experiment

1 hour ago, Sheep said:

Lauren Aquilina wrote hot sauce btw. She's always at the scene of the crime for corny ass songs that are extremely polarizing 

 

1 hour ago, Sheep said:

I kinda love it though. The girl who made IVE lame and Rina Sawayama into a therapy speak girl kinda works for lil blackpink

Huh?  Lauren wrote Eleven, Holy Moly and Hypnosis which are some of IVE's best

1 minute ago, Supervillain said:

 

Huh?  Lauren wrote Eleven, Holy Moly and Hypnosis which are some of IVE's best

Let's agree to disagree 

YG wasting blackpink's money on this?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

14 minutes ago, Sheep said:

Let's agree to disagree 

Out of curiosity - what are your favorite IVE songs? 

We moved on to fast from this. 

@youresotoxic and me know real music when we hear it…. (Excluding Birthday & Holiday). 

5 minutes ago, Supervillain said:

Out of curiosity - what are your favorite IVE songs? 

Love Dive changed the course of kpop as a genre. Lauren is an occasionally excellent songwriter but I don't fw her work with IVE at all. They don't have the vocals to sell her over the top songs. 

Edited July 1, 20251 yr by Sheep

1 hour ago, Sheep said:

Just speculating but I don't think YG wanted to risk an aging star who wasn't traditionally pretty fumbling their carefully constructed narrative that kpop was the next big thing in the west. 2NE1's global appeal was always being used to prop up other acts, even before they disbanded CL was being taken out of the dungeon to promote Psy and G-Dragon. YG's real return on investment into CL and 2NE1's scrapped American projects was the business connections they made to immediately open the way for BP, and I think that was more or less always the plan. CL wasn't actually allowed to release a single on iTunes and promote it until Lifted, a week after BPs first streaming farm check cleared. Hello ******* was a free soundcloud drop and a performance video with no MV. It wasn't actually added to iTunes until way later.

 

Even 2NE1's 3rd album was just a black pink songwriting camp but with guide vocals sung by a-list celebrities.

I think you're onto something, but CL was barely entering her mid 20's  She was more than viable as a popstar, the not traditionally pretty possibly fumbling the k-pop narrative probably has more weight to that.

Edited July 1, 20251 yr by mathekr

Just now, mathekr said:

I think you're onto something, but CL was barely entering her mid 20's

we all know what YGs ideal age for a female pop star is though  

 

31 minutes ago, mathekr said:

I think you're onto something, but CL was barely entering her mid 20's  She was more than viable as a popstar, the not traditionally pretty possibly fumbling the k-pop narrative probably has more weight to that.

i always thought cl was stunning while i was growing up, even though i had zero contact with korean culture aside from occasionally checking out kpop here and there

46 minutes ago, Bewitched said:

 

A very well done concept and sound switch for them. 

I still listen to the title track nowadays. Such a good song.
 

 

49 minutes ago, Bewitched said:

 

My favorite song of 2018 

Whiplash lowkey the best gg song ever?

Baby, you make me smile
네 style은 다 맞아 그게 너라서 더 좋아
Got that one of a kind, you got it
'Cause you're just my type and I like your style

Du-du-du-du-du-du, du-du-du-du-du-du
'Cause you're just my type and I like your style
Du-du-du-du-du-du, du-du-du-du-du-du
Yeah, you're just my type and I like your style

9 hours ago, Aniston's Boobs said:

 

i dont stan but this came up and it actually looks sickening

This era….remains the peak of kpop musically wow

1 hour ago, Gorjesspazze9 said:

We moved on to fast from this. 

@youresotoxic and me know real music when we hear it…. (Excluding Birthday & Holiday). 

this song is seriously everything to me... that post chorus gets me every time 

 

13 minutes ago, Kety said:

This era….remains the peak of kpop musically wow

It truly is 

8 minutes ago, youresotoxic said:

this song is seriously everything to me... that post chorus gets me every time 

 

Get off the floor. We need more Twice Teaser pics by tomorrow. Also they better not be cheap looking like the last few. Thank you

9 hours ago, lgaga1fan said:

Dirty Work is kinda tanking on Spotify rn. Whiplash was gaining at this point and Dirty Work is about to fall off the chart. 

There was some weird issue with them and the code used on the remix EP that was dropped linking to the Flo Milli version and not the original version (despite the track being the original version). It's the first time in history that a song has gotten more filtered streams than unfiltered streams, which is impossible per Spotify's methodology.

People here gotta stop being so preased with the whole "BP stole 2NE1 songs" narrative.

 

If you know how kpop companies and kpop producers work, you will know that a single demo song could be recorded by multiple groups before eventually deciding to give to which group. Those songs are NOT 2NE1 songs until they're released. They belong to Teddy the producer and it couldnt help that Teddy produces for both groups.

 

For example, both SNSD and F(x) recorded Hot Summer and eventually SM gave it to f(x) as they're more suitable. Kokobop was written for RV but eventually went to EXO. View was meant for f(x) and 4walls was for SHINEE but eventually switched.

 

I love 2ne1 but this narrative gotta stop. YG mistreated them but those songs are not 2NE1 songs (and they're not written by 2ne1 also)

7 minutes ago, Eternium said:

There was some weird issue with them and the code used on the remix EP that was dropped linking to the Flo Milli version and not the original version (despite the track being the original version). It's the first time in history that a song has gotten more filtered streams than unfiltered streams, which is impossible per Spotify's methodology.

SM is so stupid is handling this sigh.. what was the filtered and unfiltered numbers if you know?

8 hours ago, DelRey said:

 

They're coming I guess   

Kinda giving NMIXX vibes, changing concepts to see what sticks.

Babymonster already charted two top10 songs in Korea with Sheesh and Drip. They're fine

7 minutes ago, nky0411 said:

People here gotta stop being so preased with the whole "BP stole 2NE1 songs" narrative.

 

If you know how kpop companies and kpop producers work, you will know that a single demo song could be recorded by multiple groups before eventually deciding to give to which group. Those songs are NOT 2NE1 songs until they're released. They belong to Teddy the producer and it couldnt help that Teddy produces for both groups.

 

For example, both SNSD and F(x) recorded Hot Summer and eventually SM gave it to f(x) as they're more suitable. Kokobop was written for RV but eventually went to EXO. View was meant for f(x) and 4walls was for SHINEE but eventually switched.

 

I love 2ne1 but this narrative gotta stop. YG mistreated them but those songs are not 2NE1 songs (and they're not written by 2ne1 also)

Nobody should be pressed when "A pretty 2NE1" is the greatest elevator pitch in kpop history.