thread title explains itself.

 

both are widely acclaimed re-inventions for Beyoncé where she rejects traditional pop structures for a more experimental approach. 

 

what is the better album?

 

Pretty Hurts vs. IM THAT GIRL

Haunted vs. COZY

Drunk In Love (feat. JAY-Z) vs. ALIEN SUPERSTAR

Blow vs. CUFF IT

No Angel vs. ENERGY (feat. BEAM)

Partition vs. BREAK MY SOUL

Jealous vs. CHURCH GIRL

Rocket vs. PLASTIC OFF THE SOFA

Mine (feat. Drake) vs. VIRGOS GROOVE

XO vs. MOVE (feat. Grace Jones & Tems)

***Flawless vs. HEATED

Superpower (feat. Frank Ocean) vs. THIQUE

Heaven vs. ALL UP IN YOUR MIND

Blue (feat. Blue Ivy) vs. AMERICA HAS A PROBLEM

7/11 vs. PURE/HONEY

Ring Off vs. SUMMER RENAISSANCE

 

 

 

 

Renaissance wins since it doesn't have an atrocity like Pretty Hurts.

Just now, ATWK said:

Renaissance wins since it doesn't have an atrocity like Pretty Hurts.

but does Renaissance have THIS??

 

 

Just now, KatyPrismSpirit said:

but does Renaissance have THIS??

 

 

It has something even better.

 

 

Pretty Hurts vs. IM THAT GIRL

Haunted vs. COZY

Drunk In Love (feat. JAY-Z) vs. ALIEN SUPERSTAR

Blow vs. CUFF IT

No Angel vs. ENERGY (feat. BEAM)

Partition vs. BREAK MY SOUL

Jealous vs. CHURCH GIRL

Rocket vs. PLASTIC OFF THE SOFA

Mine (feat. Drake) vs. VIRGOS GROOVE

XO vs. MOVE (feat. Grace Jones & Tems)

***Flawless vs. HEATED

Superpower (feat. Frank Ocean) vs. THIQUE

Heaven vs. ALL UP IN YOUR MIND

Blue (feat. Blue Ivy) vs. AMERICA HAS A PROBLEM

7/11 vs. PURE/HONEY

Ring Off vs. SUMMER RENAISSANCE

The one with Blow or the one with Virgo's Groove?

 

Hard to pick but let me go with the one with VISUALS 

Renaissance, easily. I actually think Beyonce/Self-Titled is extremely overrated. There isn't a story with the project, like with Lemonade. There's not a cohesion/specific sound Renaissance has. Self-Titled is a project that meanders, and aside from a small bunch of tracks, I don't revisit it. I know I'll get dragged to the depths for this comment, but I actually think 4 is a more fun and enjoyable listen than ST. 

Pretty Hurts vs. IM THAT GIRL

Haunted vs. COZY

Drunk In Love (feat. JAY-Z) vs. ALIEN SUPERSTAR

Blow vs. CUFF IT

No Angel vs. ENERGY (feat. BEAM)

Partition vs. BREAK MY SOUL

Jealous vs. CHURCH GIRL

Rocket vs. PLASTIC OFF THE SOFA

Mine (feat. Drake) vs. VIRGOS GROOVE

XO vs. MOVE (feat. Grace Jones & Tems)

***Flawless vs. HEATED

Superpower (feat. Frank Ocean) vs. THIQUE

Heaven vs. ALL UP IN YOUR MIND

Blue (feat. Blue Ivy) vs. AMERICA HAS A PROBLEM

7/11 vs. PURE/HONEY

Ring Off vs. SUMMER RENAISSANCE

 

ST: 6

REN: 10

Pretty Hurts vs. IM THAT GIRL

Haunted vs. COZY

Drunk In Love (feat. JAY-Z) vs. ALIEN SUPERSTAR ** since Dubai

Blow vs. CUFF IT

No Angel vs. ENERGY (feat. BEAM)

Partition vs. BREAK MY SOUL

Jealous vs. CHURCH GIRL

Rocket vs. PLASTIC OFF THE SOFA

Mine (feat. Drake) vs. VIRGOS GROOVE

XO vs. MOVE (feat. Grace Jones & Tems)

***Flawless vs. HEATED

Superpower (feat. Frank Ocean) vs. THIQUE

Heaven vs. ALL UP IN YOUR MIND

Blue (feat. Blue Ivy) vs. AMERICA HAS A PROBLEM ** love u Blue Blue 

7/11 vs. PURE/HONEY

Ring Off vs. SUMMER RENAISSANCE

 

 

RENAISSANcE> any album ever I fear

REN 

Pretty Hurts vs. IM THAT GIRL

Haunted vs. COZY

Drunk In Love (feat. JAY-Z) vs. ALIEN SUPERSTAR

Blow vs. CUFF IT

No Angel vs. ENERGY (feat. BEAM)

Partition vs. BREAK MY SOUL

Jealous vs. CHURCH GIRL

Rocket vs. PLASTIC OFF THE SOFA

Mine (feat. Drake) vs. VIRGOS GROOVE

XO vs. MOVE (feat. Grace Jones & Tems)

***Flawless vs. HEATED

Superpower (feat. Frank Ocean) vs. THIQUE

Heaven vs. ALL UP IN YOUR MIND

Blue (feat. Blue Ivy) vs. AMERICA HAS A PROBLEM

7/11 vs. PURE/HONEY

Ring Off vs. SUMMER RENAISSANCE

 

6 vs 10

RENEIGH wins

Renaissance for ALL, except Church Girl. Jealous wins. 

Pretty Hurts vs. IM THAT GIRL

Haunted vs. COZY

Drunk In Love (feat. JAY-Z) vs. ALIEN SUPERSTAR

Blow vs. CUFF IT

No Angel vs. ENERGY (feat. BEAM)

Partition vs. BREAK MY SOUL

Jealous vs. CHURCH GIRL

Rocket vs. PLASTIC OFF THE SOFA

Mine (feat. Drake) vs. VIRGOS GROOVE

XO vs. MOVE (feat. Grace Jones & Tems)

***Flawless vs. HEATED

Superpower (feat. Frank Ocean) vs. THIQUE

Heaven vs. ALL UP IN YOUR MIND

Blue (feat. Blue Ivy) vs. AMERICA HAS A PROBLEM

7/11 vs. PURE/HONEY

Ring Off vs. SUMMER RENAISSANCE

 

 

Second half of renaissance wipes the floor with the second half of ST 

9 minutes ago, zasderfght said:

I know I'll get dragged to the depths for this comment, but I actually think 4 is a more fun and enjoyable listen than ST. 

Us 4 stans are getting louder and louder over the years!

now let’s compare visuals 

 

Pretty Hurts vs. IM THAT GIRL

Haunted vs. COZY

Drunk In Love (feat. JAY-Z) vs. ALIEN SUPERSTAR

Blow vs. CUFF IT

No Angel vs. ENERGY (feat. BEAM)

Partition vs. BREAK MY SOUL

Jealous vs. CHURCH GIRL

Rocket vs. PLASTIC OFF THE SOFA

Mine (feat. Drake) vs. VIRGOS GROOVE

XO vs. MOVE (feat. Grace Jones & Tems)

***Flawless vs. HEATED

Superpower (feat. Frank Ocean) vs. THIQUE

Heaven vs. ALL UP IN YOUR MIND

Blue (feat. Blue Ivy) vs. AMERICA HAS A PROBLEM

7/11 vs. PURE/HONEY

Ring Off vs. SUMMER RENAISSANCE

 

Renaissance wins. 

Pretty Hurts vs. IM THAT GIRL

Haunted vs. COZY

Drunk In Love (feat. JAY-Z) vs. ALIEN SUPERSTAR

Blow vs. CUFF IT

No Angel vs. ENERGY (feat. BEAM)

Partition vs. BREAK MY SOUL

Jealous vs. CHURCH GIRL

Rocket vs. PLASTIC OFF THE SOFA

Mine (feat. Drake) vs. VIRGOS GROOVE

XO vs. MOVE (feat. Grace Jones & Tems)

***Flawless vs. HEATED

Superpower (feat. Frank Ocean) vs. THIQUE

Heaven vs. ALL UP IN YOUR MIND

Blue (feat. Blue Ivy) vs. AMERICA HAS A PROBLEM

7/11 vs. PURE/HONEY

Ring Off vs. SUMMER RENAISSANCE

 

7 vs. 9… Renaissance is more consistent

Pretty Hurts vs. IM THAT GIRL

Haunted vs. COZY

Drunk In Love (feat. JAY-Z) vs. ALIEN SUPERSTAR

Blow vs. CUFF IT

No Angel vs. ENERGY (feat. BEAM)

Partition vs. BREAK MY SOUL

Jealous vs. CHURCH GIRL

Rocket vs. PLASTIC OFF THE SOFA

Mine (feat. Drake) vs. VIRGOS GROOVE

XO vs. MOVE (feat. Grace Jones & Tems)

***Flawless vs. HEATED

Superpower (feat. Frank Ocean) vs. THIQUE

Heaven vs. ALL UP IN YOUR MIND

Blue (feat. Blue Ivy) vs. AMERICA HAS A PROBLEM

7/11 vs. PURE/HONEY

Ring Off vs. SUMMER RENAISSANCE

 

ST: 8

REN: 8

 

oop

Pretty Hurts vs. IM THAT GIRL

Haunted vs. COZY

Drunk In Love (feat. JAY-Z) vs. ALIEN SUPERSTAR

Blow vs. CUFF IT

No Angel vs. ENERGY (feat. BEAM)

Partition vs. BREAK MY SOUL

Jealous vs. CHURCH GIRL

Rocket vs. PLASTIC OFF THE SOFA

Mine (feat. Drake) vs. VIRGOS GROOVE

XO vs. MOVE (feat. Grace Jones & Tems)

***Flawless vs. HEATED

Superpower (feat. Frank Ocean) vs. THIQUE

Heaven vs. ALL UP IN YOUR MIND

Blue (feat. Blue Ivy) vs. AMERICA HAS A PROBLEM

7/11 vs. PURE/HONEY

Ring Off vs. SUMMER RENAISSANCE

3 vs 13

REN is that girl, it’s so obvious. ST is legendary, but REN as an album is next level from start to finish. Nothing tops 12/13/13 though. 

Pretty Hurts vs. IM THAT GIRL

Haunted vs. COZY

Drunk In Love (feat. JAY-Z) vs. ALIEN SUPERSTAR

Blow vs. CUFF IT

No Angel vs. ENERGY (feat. BEAM)

Partition vs. BREAK MY SOUL

Jealous vs. CHURCH GIRL

Rocket vs. PLASTIC OFF THE SOFA

Mine (feat. Drake) vs. VIRGOS GROOVE

XO vs. MOVE (feat. Grace Jones & Tems)

***Flawless vs. HEATED

Superpower (feat. Frank Ocean) vs. THIQUE

Heaven vs. ALL UP IN YOUR MIND

Blue (feat. Blue Ivy) vs. AMERICA HAS A PROBLEM

7/11 vs. PURE/HONEY

Ring Off vs. SUMMER RENAISSANCE

 

it’s a tie, but the ST gets the edge for its stunning visuals and eventful release. Between Haunted, Mine and Superpower, there was just all around more depth to it. Renaissance is more sonically entertaining and cohesive with AHAP and Virgos Groove being two of her best songs, but it really needs to have more of a visual for me to officially put it above ST. 

Pretty Hurts vs. I'M THAT GIRL

Haunted vs. COZY

Drunk In Love vs. ALIEN SUPERSTAR

Blow vs. CUFF IT

No Angel vs. ENERGY (neither)

Partition vs. BREAK MY SOUL (tie)

Jealous vs. CHURCH GIRL

Rocket vs. PLASTIC OFF THE SOFA

Mine vs. VIRGO'S GROOVE (tie)

XO vs. MOVE

***Flawless vs. HEATED

Superpower vs. THIQUE

Heaven vs. ALL UP IN YOUR MIND

Blue vs. AMERICA HAS A PROBLEM (tie)

7/11 vs. PURE/HONEY

Ring Off vs. SUMMER RENAISSANCE (lmao)

 

Self-Titled: 8

Renaissance: 10

 

Both masterpieces

Renaissance 

26 minutes ago, AM98GJ said:

RENAISSANcE> any album ever I fear

SPOKE REAL