54 minutes ago, MAKSIM said:

RV would be lucky to get a title track like ditto, hype boy, attention or omg. Their title track discography is complete ****. 

Considering who you stan, you know nothing about quality obviously. Your payoled fave literally need to go into acting career cos nobody was streaming her shitty music. And even in the acting career, she used payola again. So gtfo with your tasteless ****

Not LSM paying f(x) dust and not even mentioning them in his last message about his legacy. 

The fact Hanni went on an interview and was claiming they don't use demos but instead record the song from scratch  like this has to be a social experiment 

5 minutes ago, Pluto2022 said:

and now for other groups as well

 

Stop bringing this up, the song is bad

 

2 minutes ago, Bonjourtristesse said:

 

 

 

 

See the posts above.

all the posts included spilled so whats ur point, and only one called it mediaplay.

obvs the members do write some of their lyrics but its so painfully obvious that mhj uses it to act like newjeans are different from other groups... when lots of other groups write their stuff, which you didn't even know ffs before coming to your own delusional conclusions...

 

give it up already. 

3 minutes ago, JoanneActII said:

all the posts included spilled so whats ur point, and only one called it mediaplay.

obvs the members do write some of their lyrics but its so painfully obvious that mhj uses it to act like newjeans are different from other groups... when lots of other groups write their stuff, which you didn't even know ffs before coming to your own delusional conclusions...

 

give it up already. 

Lol I was talking about the difference between NJ and RV. You are right I genuinely dont listen BGs so I didn't even think of them when I said "other groups". Sorry for unintentionally triggering BG fans. My bad.

The bandwagoning for Newjeans here is 

 

14 minutes ago, katyberry said:

The fact Hanni went on an interview and was claiming they don't use demos but instead record the song from scratch  like this has to be a social experiment 

They are trying so hard to push that "we are artists" propaganda and it's working i guess. Good for them

 

5 minutes ago, Bonjourtristesse said:

Lol I was talking about the difference between NJ and RV. You are right I genuinely dont listen BGs so I didn't even think of them when I said "other groups". Sorry for unintentionally triggering BG fans. My bad.

55 minutes ago, Bonjourtristesse said:

P.S. I don't know what a Birthday is either. Just searched for RV's latest comeback.

35 minutes ago, Bonjourtristesse said:

On B-sides sure. How many groups have credits on all their title tracks besides NJ though? BTS and that's it?

you also genuinely dont listen to red velvet and went out of your way to drag them to hype newjeans up. saying delusional **** like only bts writes their title tracks then going "oops my bad" when called out is pathetic honestly. and also if we wanna only talk about girl groups, soyeon produces and writes almost every g i-dle track. 

 

Not the discussion being about writing credits now 

 

anyway, lemme throw in some facts that no one asked that my faves Seventeen has Woozi who produced every song in their huge ass discography and the other members also have plenty of writing and composing credits, and most importantly, they’re all quality and not just random noise. Talk about TALENT 

Don’t @ me sorry I had to insert my faves for a quick praise. Ok y’all continue 

 

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The only one who actually is the mastermind behind their own music output is Soyeon / G-IDLE (among current groups) tbh. 

 

And Stray Kids? I'm not familiar with bgs

19 minutes ago, katyberry said:

The fact Hanni went on an interview and was claiming they don't use demos but instead record the song from scratch  like this has to be a social experiment 

mhj saying she had all the demo songs for years (since 2019) and then hanni saying they created them on the spot is genuinely insane 

5 minutes ago, JoanneActII said:

you also genuinely dont listen to red velvet and went out of your way to drag them to hype newjeans up. saying delusional **** like only bts writes their title tracks then going "oops my bad" when called out is pathetic honestly. and also if we wanna only talk about girl groups, soyeon produces and writes almost every g i-dle track. 

 

What? Isn’t it the other way around? People were using RV to drag NJ? Like you are right I don’t listen to RV, so why would I bring them up if I barely know they exist unless it’s used to drag NJ?

Edited March 5, 20233 yr by Bonjourtristesse

(G)I-DLE has 95% of their discography written and produced by Soyeon, Minnie or YuQi.

SKZ produce and write basically everything themselves, specifically the 3Racha subunit. Anyway, here's a gif of Hyunjin.

 

 

 

This self-written/self-composed masterpiece, among countless others. Some of y’all’s faves can wish 

(i decided to be a bit messy today)

2 minutes ago, Bonjourtristesse said:

What? Isn’t it the other way around? People were using RV to drag NJ? Like you are right I don’t listen to RV, so why would I bring them up if I barely know they exist unless it’s used to drag NJ?

reveluvs: newjeans aesthetic is similar to red velvet at times because of mhj 

you for some reason: stop dragging newjeans *drags red velvet for not having writing credits* 

 

Can IU comeback or SOMEONE? It's insufferable how slow the charts are Dec-March

Imagine thinking saying NJ obviously takes elements of previous SM groups (due to same creative director) is "dragging" when its coming from stans of...previous SM groups.

 

How is it a drag when those people stan the groups...? When NJs debuted many of the netizen comments were they felt more like an SM girl group than aespa. Like bffr

 

Since we're talking about idols making their own songs; here is queen GISELLE from aespa!  

 

6 minutes ago, JoanneActII said:

reveluvs: newjeans aesthetic is similar to red velvet at times because of mhj 

you for some reason: stop dragging newjeans *drags red velvet for not having writing credits* 

 

My initial reply was literally pointing out the differences between the two groups? Then it became "if NJ has writing credits it must be mediaplay'? And then somehow this mediaplay is specifically applied to NJ because the other group's members are experienced 20 year olds full of life's wisdom?

33 minutes ago, Bonjourtristesse said:

 

 

 

 

See the posts above.

i don't get why you are so offended 

 

I mean ok

let's say they wrote some verses and is not just mediaplay 

but look what YOU said

"'It's really easy to see how creative input leads to better quality. '"

 

did you really think as 3rd and 4th in the credits they are doing that, and its the biggest difference between them and RV?

HeeJin herself said the songs are there years ago

its all planned

if the girls are part of the lyrics they are just doing small changes

Great! Most of female idols can't do that, principally rookies

 

but these small interferences are nothing in the real scale, like leading them to "better quality" when this was all already  decided when they are just trainees

 

I'm not triggered, I just disagree about this specific subject 

 I was defending NJ before you post that 

but whatever

 

girl give it up

7 minutes ago, Gaia said:

Can IU comeback or SOMEONE? It's insufferable how slow the charts are Dec-March

she is not enough

I miss 2017-2018

new hits every week

 

it was so fun follow the charts back then

much better see groups we like being blocked by Paul Kim and Bol4 than see the same top 10 in the entire quarter 

14 minutes ago, dlwlrma said:

i don't get why you are so offended 

 

I mean ok

let's say they wrote some verses and is not just mediaplay 

but look what YOU said

"'It's really easy to see how creative input leads to better quality. '"

 

did you really think as 3rd and 4th in the credits they are doing that, and its the biggest difference between them and RV?

HeeJin herself said the songs are there years ago

its all planned

if the girls are part of the lyrics they are just doing small changes

Great! Most of female idols can't do that, principally rookies

 

but these small interferences are nothing in the real scale, like leading them to "better quality" when this was all already  decided when they are just trainees

 

I'm not triggered, I just disagree about this specific subject 

 I was defending NJ before you post that 

but whatever

 

This is fair. I just think NJ is making great music and I'm happy they have a hand writing the songs. Their sensibilities are clearly aligned with MHJ's, and maybe that's why they picked them, but it's obvious NJ genuinely likes their music and wants to contribute creatively. That's much better than just accepting old demo tracks that sounds dated, or breaking down crying because they don't want to sing about plant trees. I don't know how this is a controversial statement.  If one day they are forced to do industry noise dubstep or whatever cringy trendy kpop sound is atm, I would unstan in a heartbeat but it looks like they have no intentions of doing that which is what I like and why I think they stand out. If everyone in this thread believes Kpop idols are that replaceable and void of any genuine personalities and agencies, I don't understand what's the point of staning anyone.

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