when HYBE disbands super senior

This is so boring too, like what's the point Hybe buying all companies, like where's the competition, the creativity, the fun and mess of it all?? They just want the money and we'll have to accept whatever they give us because there will be no other choices left

 

 

 

7 minutes ago, Adama said:

Can’t believe Hybe basically became kind of the Universal Music of Kpop in less than 5 years  

(Universal music have under them: Def Jam, Republic records, Interscope, Capitol and Island records)

Its giving Illuminati of Kpop to work all the industry singlehandedly.

The hybe/sm shares could be a blow to kakao, they now have less power within SM than hybe, I supposed this is not the way the other higher ups and investors left in SM wanted it to be, it feels a retaliation from LSM for what SM did with kakao, a mess all around, this may have an effect in contract renewals and new groups mostly 

Just now, MusicFan98 said:

Not only them but every other project they look as not profitable or that gets in the way for other projects so, wayv are done, SuJu and their soloists are done, TVXQ are done, Oh!GG has always been done (congrats to you)  it's over for DJ HYO's career, Onew, Key and Minho solo careers are over, maybe they let Taemin release, SHINee will be over too, same goes to RV solo careers at least, they will probably end the group as soon as the renewal season comes around. 

Well if the purchase isn't opposed, best case scenario is that HYBE treats SM as an independent subsidiary like ADOR and just provides funding, but we'll see.

 

They'll probably keep some solo members of SuJu, SHINee and SNSD and dump the others. RV, NCT, aespa and EXO probably safe for the short term since they still have contract time left, but once contracts are up, who knows.

 

And with LSM coming out of the picture, I wonder if this would mean they'll stop banning Jessica in Korea too...

After catching up on everything. I do NOT want HYBE to buy LSM shares if it includes a tie in of him keeping any sort of creative control. At least we know Kakao will likely get rid of him and any of his undeserved connections (e.g. YYJ getting title track rights for any group despite majority flopping at this point)

When Hybe acquired Source Music and Pledis disbanding GFriend and Nuest was up first on the docket.

 

I see Hybe getting rid of SM acts that aren't bringing in money - the countless useless solos, units, etc. I also think by the end of the year some groups will be disbanded to make room for newer ones. I wouldn't be surprised to see the end of some 2nd and 3rd generation groups that aren't really doing much for the bottom line.

 

I do wonder if the "new sm girl group" will be shelved since that was from the SM board/Kakao side of things, which my understanding, are the losers in this acquisitions.

18 minutes ago, Mel. said:

For those who watch the Produce/Girls/Boys planet, how do eliminations work? This is my first time actually watching The show

 

does the fan voting determine who gets cut or is it the panel of judges?

I think is a combination of both, but in the end the producers kinda lean into who they want to debut and push for them

1 minute ago, Companion said:

Its giving Illuminati of Kpop to work all the industry singlehandedly.

I blame Scooter shady ass Braun 

3 minutes ago, Spears_Stan said:

it feels a retaliation from LSM for what SM did with kakao, a mess all around

This is 100% what it probably is, the statement released pretty much suggested it. Chris Lee sided with Kakao, so LSM turned to HYBE. A total mess.

 

I'll be interested to see what Kakao responds with. They just dropped like $200M on shares which now don't have the effect they wanted, since HYBE now has way more.

 

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4 minutes ago, Adama said:

Can’t believe Hybe basically became kind of the Universal Music of Kpop in less than 5 years

They are the Warner Music of kpop.

 

 

2 minutes ago, MusicFan98 said:

This is so boring too, like what's the point Hybe buying all companies, like where's the competition, the creativity, the fun and mess of it all?? They just want the money and we'll have to accept whatever they give us because there will be no other choices left

The recent waves of mergers was to gather together all this IP to increase your bargaining power against the streaming services.  But it seems like post-pandemic, the other advantage to gather artists together is to have some kind of bargaining power in the touring field.  We see with the recent ticketmaster issues along with the way entities who control exhibition spaces in Europe and America are really going past the proverbial pound of flesh just to hold a concert somewhere, controlling all the product would be one way to combat singular entities who control everything on the other side.

 

Idk, this press release kinda make it seem like Hybe agreed to keep LSM as a director.

It’s insane how Game of Thrones this all is, and it’s rooted in just how successful BTS was 

LSM needs to make aespa rush-release a DISS track against the HYBE groups

 

imagine Giselle and Karina rapping about MHJ being sus, Sakura's nosejob, BTS' horrible english songs...

 

it could be a moment

LSM needs to retire but grandpa is entertaining af - from being on most wanted Interpol list to now pulling this kind of makjang move. I don't want SM to be acquired by Hybe but their business moves are perfect. Bang PD is doing something that YG should've done at a Big Bang's peak popularity instead of pimping, threatening trainees and supplying drugs to YGE HQ.

Bang PD and LSM having a shared vision for the Kpop industry 

 

Does this involve vocal lessons?

1 minute ago, mathekr said:

Idk, this press release kinda make it seem like Hybe agreed to keep LSM as a director.

This is the original deal Lee Sooman had with CJENM and the first deal he had with Kakao that annoyed the shareholders as Lee Sooman was selling the company without actually selling the company.

 

Then the other shareholders tried to do the same thing, essentially selling Lee Sooman's shares for him by diluting the shares in the deal with Kakao.  So Lee Sooman retaliated.  And Bang Sihyuk is no stranger to high risk finance.  Remember about 7 years ago he sold his company to some Singaporeans just to buy the company back like 30 days later.  He (or his advisors) know how to play this.

 

enough of the fanfiction of every sm group and soloist you don't like being scrapped 

5 minutes ago, mathekr said:

Idk, this press release kinda make it seem like Hybe agreed to keep LSM as a director.

Lee as in LSM? So they're basically giving him power again?

 

"multi-label system" 

you would have thought 

Kakao now plotting to use some of the $966M investment they just got from Saudi Arabia (and Singapore) government last month to outbid HYBE in the tender offer for the 25% shares...

 

I mean this is a total mess

 

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7 minutes ago, mathekr said:

Idk, this press release kinda make it seem like Hybe agreed to keep LSM as a director.

I truly hate HYBE even more if this is real  the other side better sue LSM for this shady deal!

Hybe is not going to let RV and Aespa breath if that happens