2 minutes ago, New Edition said:

Isn't Mnet doing Girls Planet 2 or something? 

They're doing Boys Planet first.  Which would be a heckuva reason to get kicked out of a girl group.

 

20 minutes ago, Zack said:

It's super rare for a company to just allow termination of the contract like that.

 

Either she's unfortunately sick and can't recover for a long time or there is something serious going on with her family/personal life...or there was discord with her in the group. Very odd.

 

JYP is in quite a bad position with their girl groups. TWICE is the only one pulling their weight (internationally at least). ITZY is inconsistent and mostly flopping...and NMIXX hasn't even taken off yet and they are already losing members. Not good.

- Both ITZY and Red Velvet had a hit and a flop single this year. 

- ITZY has sold more albums this year

- ITZY has more streams this year. 
 

So if Red Velvet aren’t flops, then so aren’t ITZY. 
 

JYP girl groups in general are still more successful than other companies this year especially in terms of combined sales etc.

39 minutes ago, Diarrhoea said:

Red Velvet outlasting three JYP ggs who came out after them. Iktr 

Red Velvet can't get a song to pass 100M streams since 2019's Psycho. Seugli's solo is the biggest flop ever. Get with the times!

3 minutes ago, New Edition said:

Isn't Mnet doing Girls Planet 2 or something? 

 

Or is it I-LAND 2?

 

Maybe she'll show up in HYBE x GEFFen's new group

 

First I land 2 next year then gp2 will be in 2024 

2 minutes ago, Pluto2022 said:

- Both ITZY and Red Velvet had a hit and a flop single this year. 

- ITZY has sold more albums this year

- ITZY has more streams this year. 
 

So if Red Velvet aren’t flops, then so aren’t ITZY. 
 

JYP girl groups in general are still more successful than other companies this year especially in terms of combined sales etc.

They are not even in the same generation lmao it's like comparing SNSD's sales to BP

 

Itzy is lagging behind their peers aka GIdle and LSFR even though they used to be miles ahead of them

1 minute ago, Pluto2022 said:

- Both ITZY and Red Velvet had a hit and a flop single this year. 

- ITZY has sold more albums this year

- ITZY has more streams this year. 
 

So if Red Velvet aren’t flops, then so aren’t ITZY. 
 

JYP girl groups in general are still more successful than other companies this year especially in terms of combined sales etc.

To be fair, you're comparing an 8 year old group to a 3 year old group. ITZY SHOULD be doing much better, not on par with Red Velvet, which to be fair, Feel My Rhythm was more successful than Sneakers both in Korea and worldwide.

 

It's similar to everyone comparing aespa's year to ITZY. Like, considering their 2019 aespa should be competing with IVE, LSRFM and NewJeans. ITZY's 2022 (and being honest their 2021 as well) as been on a downwards trend. At least with Sneakers it felt like they regained some of their footing in Korea, but Cheshire points to it just being a fluke. 

 

Like if Girls and Birthday flopped, I'm afraid to say that Cheshire is a bomb. It was barely even able to crack the Melon Top 100, was not able to debut inside the Circle Top 100 and it continued the trend of ITZY title tracks not charting on the Spotify Top 200. At least Girls and Birthday were able to do the first two

14 minutes ago, Pluto2022 said:

- Both ITZY and Red Velvet had a hit and a flop single this year. 

- ITZY has sold more albums this year

- ITZY has more streams this year. 
 

So if Red Velvet aren’t flops, then so aren’t ITZY. 
 

JYP girl groups in general are still more successful than other companies this year especially in terms of combined sales etc.

- Feel My Rhythm was significantly bigger than Sneakers and Birthday is less of a flop than Cheshire in Korea

- ITZY's total album sales on Circle from July 2019 to September 2022 is 2.6M. Red Velvet sold 1.8M this year alone (it will be higher once Birthday's sales are added).

- RV has no U.S. distribution and SM doesn't target international markets for the girls, but RV's streaming numbers are still some of the best in SM.

 

RV also has active soloists releasing music, dramas, radio shows, CFs etc. whereas ITZY's members are mostly jobless and unknown.

 

And as others have told you, Red Velvet is over 8 years old and many of their peers have already disbanded or failed (GFriend, Mamamoo etc.). ITZY is only 3 years old. They should be competing with aespa and IVE, but simply aren't.

 

Edited December 9, 20223 yr by Zack

im finally back!!!! 

Omg not Jinni! I don’t stan NMIXX but she was one of my faves  

 

I’m  Lowkey shocked. 
 

Also ppl saying she was the only relevant one are delusional  Sullyoon is the one one with an ounce of relevance. And maybe Lily for her singing. 

Edited December 9, 20223 yr by sunmimi imfurst

holy, a bibi avy? forgot i stanned that binch back in the day. need to change it asap since she fell the fuq off 

I'm jumping ship, no more JYP stanning for me. I'll become a HYBE Hyena

everybody wants to be stay6 so bad 

I’m crushed today by the Celine and Jinni news.  

Jinny is truly the IT girl of NMIXX though. Hope she will pull a HyunA

not jinni the main slayer of nmixx leaving wth this is so random

Okay we need the official company stan name for Starship/Kakao and Cube since we already  have Sheeps, Rats, Pigs and Hyena for the Big 4 company stans

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Another amazing year for my girls

 

 

all the speculation and finger pointing over nothing. kpop fans never change or learn a lesson. At least wait for actual rumors or a statement before you start dragging people 

Edited December 9, 20223 yr by Century

the dramatics

 

between members leaving, being added and coming back, Wonder Girls had 5 different line-ups. 

 

hopefully Jinni is fine, wishing her the best. 

Blackpink’s return kinda came and went didn’t it?

2 minutes ago, Ryan said:

Blackpink’s return kinda came and went didn’t it?

Can we change the title of the thread in Honor of Jinni 

On 12/6/2022 at 9:25 AM, Ghiles said:

The comments aren’t that bad?

 

but yes Free Jinni 

Noooo I didn’t mean it for real 

Just now, Adama said:

Can we change the title of the thread in Honor of Jinni 

I’ll change it tomorrow. Someone asked for a Kara title a few days ago. 

Nvm changed it now

4 minutes ago, Ghiles said:

Noooo I didn’t mean it for real 

‘ hope you didn’t say the same for your fave Brave girls