ass like an onion, make a grown man cry.

Hey Girl is an amazing song, the production is immaculate and they sound great. Also the melody during the bridge and the outro is heavenly. 

Hey Girl isn't a bad song, far from it actually, but it's also kinda forgettable in a way? The bridge is definitely a highlight and production is cute though. I was disppointed because both legends could have came up with a better song + I wanted a scream fest classic à la Shake It Out.

This is such a weird take, I'm looking at the track list of Joanne now and I don't have a song that I really dislike yet still I can't get into the the album as a whole. It's like a reverse "The whole is greater than the sum of its parts" expedition. 

The way Joanne's production will never sound dated like her other studio album in 10 years from now is kinda ? when you think about it 

Imagine if John Wayne  became a hit as she wanted it to be...the era would be very different

Joanne’s production is horrible because of BloodPop. The random screaming and yelping in the background of every second song  The “soul” of the Americana theme was sucked out of that album by BloodPop’s heavy handedness. 

 

There’s a reason why ASIB stomped on Joanne. The butchering of Mark Ronson tracks by that hack  I wonder what Joanne would’ve sounded like if it was a Ronson project. 

7 minutes ago, Santhosh said:

The way Born This Way's production will never sound dated like her other studio album in 10 years from now is kinda ? when you think about it 

Fixed it for you

 

well, at least we're not discussing Artpop

 

Just now, Pikachoo said:

well, at least we're not discussing Artpop

 

What's an Artpop?

 

Just now, jesus del rey said:

Fixed it for you

 

Some of the tracks from BTW are dated on arrival so idk what you are talking about 

 

BTW is not dated at all it's her most timeless album

26 minutes ago, State of Grace. said:

Hey Girl isn't a bad song, far from it actually, but it's also kinda forgettable in a way? The bridge is definitely a highlight and production is cute though. I was disppointed because both legends could have came up with a better song + I wanted a scream fest classic à la Shake It Out.

 

22 minutes ago, Konril said:

This is such a weird take, I'm looking at the track list of Joanne now and I don't have a song that I really dislike yet still I can't get into the the album as a whole. It's like a reverse "The whole is greater than the sum of its parts" expedition. 

Agree with both of these takes tbh. Hey Girl is one of the worst songs on Joanne, but no song on Joanne is that bad... The album as a whole is very cohesive and a solid body of work.

1. Born This Way

2. Chromatica

3. The Fame Monster

4. The Fame

5. Joanne

 

---BAR---

 

6. ARTPOP

 

I'd like to see Gag and Moo collab

 

oh, and stream Side Effects

 

 

15 minutes ago, Both Sides Now said:

Joanne’s production is horrible because of BloodPop. The random screaming and yelping in the background of every second song  The “soul” of the Americana theme was sucked out of that album by BloodPop’s heavy handedness. 

 

There’s a reason why ASIB stomped on Joanne. The butchering of Mark Ronson tracks by that hack  I wonder what Joanne would’ve sounded like if it was a Ronson project. 

Definitely agree with this. I'd pay to hear what Joanne sounded like before Interscope brought BloodPop in to "bring it into the modern era" or whatever  I still love Joanna and I'll keep defending it but the production truly holds it back.

why didn’t i realise bloodpop worked on joanne  

Joanne is abhorrent. 
 

A stain on her career I’ll never revisit and nobody will remember in a positive light. 
 

Even the few good songs (John Wayne + Dancin’ in Circle + PI) are clouded with the stench of that album and era as a whole. 

A silver lining of the era was the Bloody Mary performance from the tour.

Edited December 19, 20223 yr by hétérosexuelle

 

Starting the new year with a UK Top 20?   

Just Another Day is sublime btw

31 minutes ago, sunbathinganimal said:

BTW is not dated at all it's her most timeless album

Title track, Americano are dated while comparing to other tracks from that album 

 

43 minutes ago, Both Sides Now said:

Joanne’s production is horrible because of BloodPop. The random screaming and yelping in the background of every second song  The “soul” of the Americana theme was sucked out of that album by BloodPop’s heavy handedness. 

 

There’s a reason why ASIB stomped on Joanne. The butchering of Mark Ronson tracks by that hack  I wonder what Joanne would’ve sounded like if it was a Ronson project. 

This  It sounds so watered down and led to the album being one big identity crisis. Parts of it trying to be legitimately "authentic" and reveal a different side of Gaga, while also trying to appease her pop audience and radio. Easily her most confused album. 

3 minutes ago, State of Grace. said:

Definitely agree with this. I'd pay to hear what Joanne sounded like before Interscope brought BloodPop in to "bring it into the modern era" or whatever  I still love Joanna and I'll keep defending it but the production truly holds it back.

He was definitely brought in to modernise it (to its detriment). His production on Dancin’ In Circles works… but why is he on tracks like Joanne, Diamond Heart or Million Reasons? 

I’ve actually always wondered if Ronson was pissed off by BloodPop’s involvement in Joanne. His playing of the Perfect Illusion demo may have been some subtle shade to BloodPop’s tinkering with it. It’s clearly the better version even from the LQ play here. 

 

Joanne is likely her worst studio album, not because she switched her sound, but because she didn’t switch her sound enough. You can hear a raw, analog and artistically driven record in there. Yet it is watered down heavily in the production, possibly due to BloodPop as others have mentioned. This can be especially seen in the first half of the album. Many fans find songs like JW/DIC as the saving grace of the record but I see them as traditional pop songs Gaga has already done before in a much better/more authentic way. The second half of the album explores a new sound, which I like in some areas. Sinner’s Prayer is raw and great, both lyrically and production wise. I also don’t dislike Hey Girl as much as others. Sure the melody could’ve been more dynamic but the production is honestly solid and the outro is cool. Just Another Day is also one of the strong songs on the album, it’s so pure and you can hear happiness in Gaga’s voice. I didn’t get this in the rest of the album, unfortunately. It tried to tow the line between mainstream pop and a more stripped back/Americana sound which just left the end product as half-baked and less inspired than her other albums.

4 minutes ago, Both Sides Now said:

He was definitely brought in to modernise it (to its detriment). His production on Dancin’ In Circles works… but why is he on tracks like Joanne, Diamond Heart or Million Reasons? 

I’ve actually always wondered if Ronson was pissed off by BloodPop’s involvement in Joanne. His playing of the Perfect Illusion demo may have been some subtle shade to BloodPop’s tinkering with it. It’s clearly the better version even from the LQ play here. 

 

we were robbed of a Mark Ronson/Kevin Parker produced album