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Beyoncé

This is part 1 of the Beyoncé discussion.

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4 hours ago, Golden said:

Don't forget Amsterdam, she's always been huge here in NL.

As well as her tour malfunctions.

 

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She NEEDS to tour Amsterdam.

 

Something always goes wrong there.

46 minutes ago, Bicassie said:

Sometimes I feel like the hive wants her to fail at things reading these posts. Ya'll acting like Bey can't tour stadiums if she wants to and that TH'E wasn't a bigger #1 smash than BMS :coffee2:

Yeah, when it gets like this, I realize we are lucky she doesn't take our advice :rip:

 

 

Texas Hold EM hit #1 on the Hot 100 and certain FAGTRLers act like it's a flop or something.

 

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I agree that the tour will be successful. It's...Beyonce.

 

Granted sis will always roll into my city, it would be such a shame if she really isn't doing some of the international regions that continue to hold her down (e.g. South America / Australia etc).

 

At the same time, I imagine it's a combination of her kids' schooling and certain regions not having properly mapped-out tour routing (to make it financially profitable taking a whole production there).

 

I've not been "as" bothered about the CC charting situation as the album has tick-boxed my "bare minimum" metrics for "a successful Beyonce era". But a tour for an album that comparable to Rennie is already in such rearview at this stage of its life-cycle will be...interesting. 

 

I wonder if she will drop a Platinum edition or a something to give it an extra umph.

 

Imagine her doing a major-city rodeo-style 360 tour :jonny5:

NYC

LA

SF Bay Area

Vegas

Nashville

Chicago

Houston

New Orleans

DC

ATL

Miami

London

Paris

São Paulo :-*

Rio de Janeiro :-*

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1 minute ago, king_queen said:

Imagine her doing a major-city rodeo-style 360 tour :jonny5:

some of the original tour stage concepts had 360 designs 

4 minutes ago, Bicassie said:

some of the original tour stage concepts had 360 designs 

Imagine American Requiem in a setting like that :jonny5:

Just now, king_queen said:

Imagine American Requiem in a setting like that :jonny5:

my only demand is affordable pit tickets like club rennie tix were

32 minutes ago, Chris said:

Texas Hold EM hit #1 on the Hot 100 and certain FAGTRLers act like it's a flop or something.

 

:toofunny3:

It was also her biggest global hit in YEARS. Yeah CC had no legs (she also went in hiding after the first week) but let's not act like it's a career-ending bomb or something.

1 hour ago, Draper. said:

The tour would be a moment because it has a defined aesthetic that people can engage with. There was the Barbie summer, then Renaissance and the Eras tour, and then Brat summer. People love an experience they can be a part of and the country aesthetic already provides that. 

but this only works for content people actually like, which isn't the case for CC :deadbanana4:

59 minutes ago, Shinning said:

It was also her biggest global hit in YEARS. Yeah CC had no legs (she also went in hiding after the first week) but let's not act like it's a career-ending bomb or something.

And its already vanishing in terms of streams. We always took pride in the fact that Bey was all about longevity but her longevity game is ****. Sorry not sorry

 

Everything till BEYONCE was aimed at longevity, everything since is aimed at initial hype and NO sustain. Thats why her old stuff keeps surpassing her new output. Shes lost herself in the money-game

 

Shes essentially become what she criticized, however on a much more severe level- albums.

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14 hours ago, ShouldersSideways said:

I wish I knew how to edit this so there's only, like, 3 camera flashes.

 

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In all seriousness, Beyonce will always be Beyonce, but I do believe something has shifted.  You could make the argument no one can stay on top of the zeitgeist forever, but I can't help feel as if so much of this could've been avoided with only a slightly different strategy.  As a lifelong fan, I'm feeling pretty disconnected from her; if a lot of us feel that way, it's no wonder the GP let CC freefall off the Billboard 200.  She really doesn't have one single album charting there right now?

People are literally calling Beyonce a murderer and some think she didn't even give birth to Blue and people wonder why she doesn't want to go outside and promote her music or do interviews. Fame is terrifying to her.  I think her personal and professional life  is full of tense relationships from her record label to her father to her husband. There's lots going on and she hints at it in her music. She called Renaissance an "escape" not her real feelings. There's a hint of sadness even in a happy carefree song  like cuff it or church girl and in 16 carriages and much of the new album.

 

Since the Life is But a Dream doc and  2013 album, she's been hinting at her life not being perfect and all roses. This is ironically the same time she started to disconnect from the public to protect herself.

 

The media pushed her back to her shell. As an introvert myself, I totally get it. Beyonce is not going to work herself to death for the sake of fans. She wants to enjoy her kids, her house, her man on her own time. She wants to live life without concerns about charts or success. It's no way to live. She spent her entire childhood doing that living to become famous and a star like MJ and what did she get from it except people trying  to tear her down .

 

it's sad to me that people gave Rihanna almost a decade of space with no new album and she doesn't get dragged and she gives lackluster performance when she does show up at the SB but Beyonce is expected to do the most and do everything like she's some machine 

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46 minutes ago, Kristie Kuwa said:

And its already vanishing in terms of streams. We always took pride in the fact that Bey was all about longevity but her longevity game is ****. Sorry not sorry

 

Everything till BEYONCE was aimed at longevity, everything since is aimed at initial hype and NO sustain. Thats why her old stuff keeps surpassing her new output. Shes lost herself in the money-game

 

Shes essentially become what she criticized, however on a much more severe level- albums.

She's a billionaire, she doesn't need the chump change she gets from music tbh, and she will never have issues touring, ever

Even with her "bad" streams on spotify, her catalog with 10 million daily brings in 14 million annually, that doesn't account for Apple, Amazon, or whatever else she gets.  If she were to increase to 20 million daily, that's only 28 million annually.   After royalties, how much do you think she's netting? 

 

She makes more money in interest on the money she already has annually, probably MANY MANY times more, I'm certain. 

 

I'm assuming she doesn't think the increase of probably 7 million dollars annually after royalties and whatever else is worth the time, and scrutiny it takes to be everywhere like Sabrina Carpenter

 

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12 hours ago, Devin said:

- uk

- france

- germany

__
- toronto

- nyc

- los angeles

- chicago

- atlanta

- houston
- miami

__

- brazil :bird:

What in the pathetic Chromatica World Tour is going on? No thanks!

Hey it's not Beyoncé's fault there's assholes out here lurking, throwing rocks and hiding hands! Lol

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1 minute ago, brutal said:

What in the pathetic Chromatica World Tour is going on? No thanks!

5 stadium shows in each of those areas is pathetic now? :deadbanana:

34 minutes ago, Nippy'sReceipts said:

People are literally calling Beyonce a murderer and some think she didn't even give birth to Blue and people wonder why she doesn't want to go outside and promote her music or do interviews. Fame is terrifying to her.  I think her personal and professional life  is full of tense relationships from her record label to her father to her husband. There's lots going on and she hints at it in her music. She called Renaissance an "escape" not her real feelings. There's a hint of sadness even in a happy carefree song  like cuff it or church girl and in 16 carriages and much of the new album.

 

Since the Life is But a Dream doc and  2013 album, she's been hinting at her life not being perfect and all roses. This is ironically the same time she started to disconnect from the public to protect herself.

 

The media pushed her back to her shell. As an introvert myself, I totally get it. Beyonce is not going to work herself to death for the sake of fans. She wants to enjoy her kids, her house, her man on her own time. She wants to live life without concerns about charts or success. It's no way to live. She spent her entire childhood doing that living to become famous and a star like MJ and what did she get from it except people trying  to tear her down .

 

it's sad to me that people gave Rihanna almost a decade of space with no new album and she doesn't get dragged and she gives lackluster performance when she does show up at the SB but Beyonce is expected to do the most and do everything like she's some machine 

I think it's infantilizing her a bit to speak this way.  I don't expect her to work to death, and if I were in her situation you'd literally never see me again.  However, she's got one foot in one foot out; I think it's okay to acknowledge the approach she's taking is frustrating for fans.

 

I'd certainly never ask her to do a late night talk show or media blitz ever again.  I'm okay with her retaining her privacy, but I think there surely must be another way to keep your fanbase engaged.  Because she certainly has no problem popping out or doing commercials and magazine interviews to line her pockets even more than they already are.

1 hour ago, ScorpiosGroove said:

but this only works for content people actually like, which isn't the case for CC :deadbanana4:

It would be if she did the tour. Even if it doesn't sell at the beginning, after watching tiktoks of people wearing some cute denim looks on the tour and her riding a mechanical bull people would want to go like crazy. Just like people wanted to be a part of the Heated bridge with the fans, the mute challenge, the silver looks and mirror hats, and watch her wearing the Loewe bodysuit and doing the robot dance. None of that existed before the tour, but then everybody wanted in.

please. Beyoncé is THE touring artist. people want to see her. and a "COWBOY" show would rake in cash, no doubt. at least in the US.

 

more than anything, my worry is that the Cowboy Carter songs won't work well for a stadium show. I'm sure if she does a tour, she'll figure out a way to make them feel rambunctious. but aside from, like, Ya Ya, she can't possibly keep a majority of the songs as they are.

 

or maybe she will, and this will be her first tour without constant choreo and dancers. maybe she'll even give live vocals for the whole show. who knows

1 hour ago, Nippy'sReceipts said:

it's sad to me that people gave Rihanna almost a decade of space with no new album and she doesn't get dragged

what the hell are you talking about, it's basically a recurring joke at this point :hoetenks:

 

I don't even like her and I see it now and then, and it's like THE question she gets asked anytime she shows up anywhere 

1 hour ago, kimberly said:

please. Beyoncé is THE touring artist. people want to see her. and a "COWBOY" show would rake in cash, no doubt. at least in the US.

 

more than anything, my worry is that the Cowboy Carter songs won't work well for a stadium show. I'm sure if she does a tour, she'll figure out a way to make them feel rambunctious. but aside from, like, Ya Ya, she can't possibly keep a majority of the songs as they are.

 

or maybe she will, and this will be her first tour without constant choreo and dancers. maybe she'll even give live vocals for the whole show. who knows

She'll either just do the album's highlights + her previous hits and fanfaves orrr she'll pull a RWT and do all of it + a few countryfied songs of hers (it's probably the latter :skull: )

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I want Bey at a mic stand during Virgo's Groove from now on. How disappointing was it watching her dry-hump a seashell? :deadbanana2:

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