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Beyoncé

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10 hours ago, Kristie Kuwa said:

The way Mine also serves as a teaser for Lemonade :jonny6:

And The Gift “no rest at the kingdom”. Mine has an African beat/dance break to it and this was back in 2013. 

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'Partition' was always an outstanding album track, it's a great song and among her best singles. 'Blow' is heavenly. 

I have to admit im unfortunately also Team "Blow is overrated", especially coming after Rennie where Bey has put out better songs in the vein of Blow (see Cuff It or Virgos Groove)

 

So y’all, I’m a new member here but LONG TIME overwatcher of this forum lmao!!! And y’all basically helped raise me (I know dramatic) for the last 10 years. Especially as a Bey Stan/Hive Member. :WAP:

And I just want to say, I saw the film for the FIRST TIME today and I CANNOT BELIEVE the MASTERPIECE of that film!!!

I saw her on the Rennie tour and was speechless the whole way through, even after the countless times I’ve watched the live footage. But after seeing this FILM, she’s truly on another level than ANYONEEE else. I can’t even describe her energy, her aura, her BEAUTY. Omfg she is BEYONDDD stunning. She’s just such a bonafide phenomenon/superstar and she is just… UGHHH!!!:deadbanana2:

 

She needs an Oscar nom or SOMETHING for that masterpiece of a film. I can’t wrap my head around the countless amount of awards she deserves for this. I NEED to see it again, I HAVE TO!!!

Also, I highkey feel we need to tone it down on critiquing her. The only thing I feel she needs to tweak is her promo. That’s literally it. Other than that, I see where her heart is at when wanting to be somewhat “organic” with hype and success because of the quality she delivers.
 

I’ve had TikToks I’ve made of her go viral (she’s highkey the reason why I have a good following now), and even the slightest mention of her name gets thousandssss/millions of likes and engagement. I think she definitely knows she’s the most polarizing artist of the last 20 years, but with that comes immense amount of backlash even she may have trouble processing sometimes. She has a family to keep an eye out for now. So I get why she holds back on the promo sometimes.

 

Promise I’m not trying to brag, just giving an example as to why we really shouldn’t have anything to worry about in terms of her pull. Google didn’t lie about her having the most searched performances for yearsss. She’s one of one baby.

Edited by cuteboyzay

1 hour ago, Kristie Kuwa said:

I have to admit im unfortunately also Team "Blow is overrated", especially coming after Rennie where Bey has put out better songs in the vein of Blow (see Cuff It or Virgos Groove)

 

They're all amazing and a style at which Beyoncé excels. I'm very grateful for all of them as this and I also think they're all distinctive enough to stand on their own. 

 

Cuff It is very dancey and party-like

Virgo's groove is very sensual and well, groovy 

Whereas Blow is a lot more cheeky and playful

 

The existence of one does not take anything away from the greatness of the other and this is honestly my favorite side of Beyoncé, both musically and artistically. Blow and Virgo's Groove are literally my all time top3 along with Naughty Girl, which is also similar to these. 

first verse of BLOW is like Bey at her nastiest, freakiest

 

VIRGO'S GROOVE is a sonic and vocal masterpiece, impeccable production

 

and CUFF HIT is a pop&b smasha :WAP:

i don’t hate cuff it but it could be deleted off of the face of the earth tomorrow and i would not care one bit 

2 hours ago, ScorpiosGroove said:

i don’t hate cuff it but it could be deleted off of the face of the earth tomorrow and i would not care one bit 

I love it now, but I think I felt like this at one point or another. It's literally one of the easiest single choices only due to the nature and 'sound' of Pop music 2020-2022. I think she may have hoped on the trend at the time it was fading and by December after the release, I was fast forwarding to get to the bridge to ride into "ENERGY". It has sustained great on the charts and could've been a bigger hit released earlier, but I didn't grow fund of the song, again, until mid-way through the tour. 

 

The album has a lot of obvious 'radio friendly' and Beyoncé failed MISERABLY at having her BIGGEST album, yet! I think "Break My Soul" was a great way to give you an idea of the albums direction, without giving you the bulk of the album. "Cuff It" was thrown out of no where because ppl liked it on social media and not promoted. I would've easily worked BMS into September with a remix leaning towards the urban audience with a feature, through out some kind of visualizer and ride it out. 

 

"Cuff It" should’ve been released promoted during December and ran through February, obviously for 'Cuff It season', through out some cute Cuff it season merchandise, cute pics and another visualizer. Do an istrumental remix for streaming and again, ride it out. 

 

Now it's spring/summer, perfect time the biggest hit, "HEATED" at the end of May- August. It would've literally did the work itself on radio. Another visualizer, and yes, this is where we add Aubrey for a radio remix to really drive it home. Flood Instagram, tik tok and YT shorts with clips/reels of "HEATED" being performed lived, have Aubrey pop up for a performance and hit at a video that never comes to stay on brand, 🤣🤣🤣‼️

 

By late September- October, I feel like "America Has A Problem" remix would've seen moderate success as a radio or promotional single. I don't know why but it has a feel I think would've smashed in fall if pushed. I know they sent "Virgos Groove" out internally, but. . .No! I think she should've tried her hand at "Summer Renaissance", but I don't think it would've did anything without some kind of promo or live performances, besides the God awful tour performances.

 

So my pick to close out the era would've been "ALIEN SUPERSTAR". Though at first I thought it would've been dumb to release AS as a single in any kind of capacity, she released "My House" and it's doing fine. Again, another visualizer- maybe incorporate some of the visuals clips, and flood with reels of the live performances.

 

If she was smart, release the visual at the end of this year to close out the ear and release the concert documentary at the top of next year before starting Act II in the summer. If the era had more of a public presence, it would not have been hard to make this her biggest era to date. She could've easily did all this in the blink of an eye from her dressing room. 

 

 

Edited by TizTiz

21 minutes ago, TizTiz said:

I love it now, but I think I felt like this at one point or another. It's literally one of the easiest single choices only due to the nature and 'sound' of Pop music 2020-2022. I think she may have hoped on the trend at the time it was fading and by December after the release, I was fast forwarding to get to the bridge to ride into "ENERGY". It has sustained great on the charts and could've been a bigger hit released earlier, but I didn't grow fund of the song, again, until mid-way through the tour. 

 

The album has a lot of obvious 'radio friendly' and Beyoncé failed MISERABLY at having her BIGGEST album, yet! I think "Break My Soul" was a great way to give you an idea of the albums direction, without giving you the bulk of the album. "Cuff It" was thrown out of no where because ppl liked it on social media and not promoted. I would've easily worked BMS into September with a remix leaning towards the urban audience with a feature, through out some kind of visualizer and ride it out. 

 

"Cuff It" should’ve been released promoted during December and ran through February, obviously for 'Cuff It season', through out some cute Cuff it season merchandise, cute pics and another visualizer. Do an istrumental remix for streaming and again, ride it out. 

 

Now it's spring/summer, perfect time the biggest hit, "HEATED" at the end of May- August. It would've literally did the work itself on radio. Another visualizer, and yes, this is where we add Aubrey for a radio remix to really drive it home. Flood Instagram, tik tok and YT shorts with clips/reels of "HEATED" being performed lived, have Aubrey pop up for a performance and hit at a video that never comes to stay on brand, 🤣🤣🤣‼️

 

By late September- October, I feel like "America Has A Problem" remix would've seen moderate success as a radio or promotional single. I don't know why but it has a feel I think would've smashed in fall if pushed. I know they sent "Virgos Groove" out internally, but. . .No! I think she should've tried her hand at "Summer Renaissance", bu5 I don't think it would've did anything without some kind of promo or live performances, besides the God awful tour performances.

 

So my pick to close out the era would've been "ALIEN SUPERSTAR". Though at first I thought it would've been dumb to release AS as a single in any kind of capacity, she released "My House" and it's doing fine. Again, another visualizer- maybe incorporate some of the visuals clips, and flood with reels of the live performances.

 

If she was smart, release the visual at the end of this year to close out the ear and release the concert documentary at the top of next year before starting Act II in the summer. If the era had more of a public presence, it would've been hard to make this her biggest era to date. She could've easily did all this in the blink of an eye. 

 

 

all of this tbh

 

her having an album with at least 10ish sure fire radio hits and potential bangers only to end up releasing 1 house appetizer and one vanilla/generic one (for her standards) will never sit right with me…

 

like this era should’ve had 6 singles at LEAST

 

BMS > Alien for the album release > Cuff It released earlier > AHAP + Remix pushed as soon as it went viral on tiktok > Heated for that quick summer smasha > something cute & lowkey to close out the era (My House / VG / SR / Energy)

Edited by ScorpiosGroove

and i love BMS as the lead, it was the obvious, logical choice 

 

but damn imagine the SMASHA if she made Alien Superstar the lead, followed by a high quality mv on album release day and a cute performance somewhere… multiple week #1 confirmed :WAP:

 

god this era and album had SO much wasted potential…

4 minutes ago, ScorpiosGroove said:

and i love BMS as the lead, it was the obvious, logical choice 

 

but damn imagine the SMASHA if she made Alien Superstar the lead, followed by a high quality mv on album release day and a cute performance somewhere… multiple week #1 confirmed :WAP:

 

god this era and album had SO much wasted potential…

alien superstar would absolutely not smash, get real :doc:

32 minutes ago, ScorpiosGroove said:

and i love BMS as the lead, it was the obvious, logical choice 

 

but damn imagine the SMASHA if she made Alien Superstar the lead, followed by a high quality mv on album release day and a cute performance somewhere… multiple week #1 confirmed :WAP:

 

god this era and album had SO much wasted potential…

Who knows, it was summer and she already does the most unorthodox **** for sake of being different. It may not have lasted long, but AS could've worked if she planned on doing anything. It's such a huge risk, but doing right could've helped it sustained for atheist 2 months. 

 

I remember when I heard "FORMATION", out the gate I said she was bat-****-crazy. Especially with "SORRY" and "6 INCH" ready and willing to Smash, but racist helped her making it bigger than she planned (this is also the only time withholding a visual worked in her favor). It wasn't typical, it was bold and racy, not something I would've approved as a label head, but it worked. 

Hot take but 4 is her weakest visual era (if we exclude Ren which has NONE)

 

The album is top3 for me but outside of Dance For You which is great none of the videos really give me anything. Party is cute I guess but not very memorable, it could've been executed better. 

 

This era is also when she started messing with yellow hair and I we're still dealing with that to this day, so I kinda associate it with the album nnn. It's rarely looked like really good on her, besides some looks during the ST era, but generally honey brown tones look SO much better on her. 

Parition > Blow

 

Blow just..... disconnects me, can't put my finger on it. I think it's meant for women and I can understand that.

4 hours ago, ThousandMiles said:

alien superstar would absolutely not smash, get real :doc:

more than BMS did and more organically too, YOU get real :doc:

1 hour ago, AxelFox said:

Hot take but 4 is her weakest visual era (if we exclude Ren which has NONE)

 

The album is top3 for me but outside of Dance For You which is great none of the videos really give me anything. Party is cute I guess but not very memorable, it could've been executed better. 

It seems like Columbia gave her a budget, but she utilized it for "Run The World" solely. "Best Thing I Never Had" and "Dance For You" are at least decent. The other 4 are terrible and cheap. Considering they had to throw the videos together so she could live out her pregnancy without disappearing completely, I don't think she realized her vision for 'visuals' over videos just yet. 

3 hours ago, TizTiz said:

Who knows, it was summer and she already does the most unorthodox **** for sake of being different. It may not have lasted long, but AS could've worked if she planned on doing anything. It's such a huge risk, but doing right could've helped it sustained for atheist 2 months. 

 

I remember when I heard "FORMATION", out the gate I said she was bat-****-crazy. Especially with "SORRY" and "6 INCH" ready and willing to Smash, but racist helped her making it bigger than she planned (this is also the only time withholding a visual worked in her favor). It wasn't typical, it was bold and racy, not something I would've approved as a label head, but it worked. 

as long as she does SOMETHING with her songs other than throwing them on spotify she can easily snatch cute hits, especially with any Ren song (other than All Up that is)

 

6 Inch just rotting away, being one of the forgotten crown jewels of her discography doesn’t sit well with me either, that song deserved a LOT more (still dreaming about how it would’ve sounded at Coachella with the horn arrangement :psyduck:

Apparently broomstick's movie will be released on 4K UHD, Blu-ray, DVD, and digital next year from Universal. If giraffe doesn't follow suit I hope her Amazon warehouse looking ass house falls into the ****ing Pacific.

Spotify most streamed artists of all time

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Artist Streams Daily As lead Solo As feature
           
67,206.1 92.848 64,785.9 59,073.3 2,420.2
           
41,948.8 24.674 34,597.8 24,261.1 7,351.1
           
37,489.1 21.242 26,930.7 17,780.8 10,558.4
           
32,217.6 25.857 11,340.3 6,415.7 20,877.3
           
30,875.3 17.574 30,875.3 26,778.0  
           
           
28,584.5 14.210 18,752.7 14,941.3 9,831.8
           
23,049.7 12.662 19,019.5 14,352.8 4,030.2
30 minutes ago, Mitsouko said:

Apparently broomstick's movie will be released on 4K UHD, Blu-ray, DVD, and digital next year from Universal. If giraffe doesn't follow suit I hope her Amazon warehouse looking ass house falls into the ****ing Pacific.

I heard her vault has been open and REN movie is going in. That’s the tea 

I would love it if she released it on all those platforms with the visuals included as a second disc set or something.  Would be smart tbh

55 minutes ago, satellites.™ said:

Spotify most streamed artists of all time

Section still under construction. Glitches may be present in the data.
 

Artist Streams Daily As lead Solo As feature
           
67,206.1 92.848 64,785.9 59,073.3 2,420.2
           
41,948.8 24.674 34,597.8 24,261.1 7,351.1
           
37,489.1 21.242 26,930.7 17,780.8 10,558.4
           
32,217.6 25.857 11,340.3 6,415.7 20,877.3
           
30,875.3 17.574 30,875.3 26,778.0  
           
           
28,584.5 14.210 18,752.7 14,941.3 9,831.8
           
23,049.7 12.662 19,019.5 14,352.8 4,030.2

Oinka's solo streams.. :deadbanana2:

 

Giraffe missing a huge chunk being featured on Frank Ocean, Coldplay, etc. :deadbanana4: Just evil. Her lead/solo streams are really impressive.

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