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Beyoncé

This is part 1 of the Beyoncé discussion.

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Anyways, I feel like the international numbers may be close to $60-80 mill and the US around $40 mill. She is looking to gross well over $100 million, hopefully.

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6 hours ago, Calypso said:

This is what I have to say about the Israel showcasing thing. Right now, Bey and Parkwood are not showing the movie there; it is on the TBD side of things, like some other regions too. And this I chalk up to Trafalgar Releasing just having all these options. 

 

However... If they do showcase the movie there, I will be deeply disappointed and disgusted. I refuse to believe that the artist who is incredibly thoughtful about her messaging, her upliftment, her activism and her platform, and has worked her way up to that freedom, platform and courage to speak boldly through her actions and art, to be a powerful figure in shaping culture, can be excused for showcasing her film in Israel. It is indefensible. 

 

And I do not mind any "preemptive" dragging's on twitter/X by people who are upset at even seeing an apartheid state (in the middle of a genocide, being backed by the world powers) being on the page that opens on Bey's films' website. 

 

I will reserve my frustrations for when and if the film gets shown there. 

 

This is not a joking matter or one to be reserved and twisted for stan wars and perceptions. 

I'm gonna say this as respectfully as I can but you really need to get a grip. Neither showtimes or tickets have been announced for that country. You are doing the absolute most for something that has NOT happened. It's extremely cringe and you come off as ******* delusional. Go outside and distract yourself with a job or something because it's giving terminally online. I'm really sick of some of yall. Like damn. :deadbanana4: 

8 minutes ago, sillycilla said:

Did you really bring up an uncredited polling company to justify nonsense? It isn’t even accurate based off numbers used NOR actual data reported by other credited polling. Also fivethirtyeight rates all the polling companies and pollingusa isn’t even on it. You do realize the media has an agenda and are the ones pushing a narrative  and propaganda not the other way around lol. That’s why celebs are afraid to speak out. 
 

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/pollster-ratings/

 

Public sentiment is in alignment with ceasefire and no military aide. And the first time ever public support in UK has gone pro Palestine. People are breaking through the bs.

Echelon Insights is an A rated pollster

 

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/pollster-ratings/echelon-insights/

 

Try someone else. Not me.

1 hour ago, luxurious said:

and hopefully we get loop the sample as a bonus track like how we got bow down at the end of homecoming too

And the song for the Motherboard interlude. I wish she would announce it with a preorder for vinyls and CDs 

 

1 hour ago, luxurious said:

I’m so excited to have break my soul live if she does release a live album. It was incredible when I attended the tour and in the trailer

it’s the best part of the show. It looks like the film will show how it came together :duca: 

Stop listening to Twitter activists in 2023.

 

These people have no joy, no perspective, and no lives.

 

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7 minutes ago, Kassi said:

Echelon Insights is an A rated pollster

 

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/pollster-ratings/echelon-insights/

 

Try someone else. Not me.

I didn’t see echelon at the bottom, regardless there is no link to the polling and it’s not on their site.  Please provide. 
 

Either way years of media narrative is not easy to breakthrough and it’s happening in real time. Civil rights movement was also unpopular and MLK was the most hated man in America. 
 

if we want to play the poll game:

 

https://www.timesofisrael.com/polls-show-lower-support-for-israel-among-young-americans-amid-war-against-hamas/amp/


https://news.gallup.com/poll/472070/democrats-sympathies-middle-east-shift-palestinians.aspx

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1 hour ago, cloudbusting said:

MOVE hitting extra hard today :WAP:

 

it’s been said 500 times before but the tour really elevated it for me

I was rewatching some clips from the first shows and the crowd reaction every time it came on was loud af. I feel like it was a secret fan favorite and when the tour started everyone realized that yep she’s that ***** 

14 minutes ago, sillycilla said:

I didn’t see echelon at the bottom, regardless there is no link to the polling and it’s not on their site.  Please provide. 
 

Either way years of media narrative is not easy to breakthrough and it’s happening in real time. Civil rights movement was also unpopular and MLK was the most hated man in America. 
 

if we want to play the poll game:

 

https://www.timesofisrael.com/polls-show-lower-support-for-israel-among-young-americans-amid-war-against-hamas/amp/


https://news.gallup.com/poll/472070/democrats-sympathies-middle-east-shift-palestinians.aspx

Here.

 

Spoiler

 

 

Anyway, the point isn't to litigate this issue in this very thread, there's already a million other threads and a Megathread for that. 

 

The point is that there's not a perception issue Beyoncé needs to be worried about. And it's not on her to LEAD the charge on this very complex issue. The criticism of her here amounts to no different than what was attempted by "Beyonce's Ivy Park uses slave labor :angry:". It's a CHARACTER hit. It has very little to do with the wider BDS initiative (which is a flop by the way... probably the most ineffective activism campaign in living memory) nor the conflict at large.

 

It's people getting online with their Twitter fingers and offloading the tension from their boring, stressful lives onto Beyoncé. And Hive needs to STOP feeding into it.

 

she just HAS to have a live album for this film... like, isn't it the most live concert of maybe her career!? and her vocals were PRISTINE!!!

 

you know me, I don't get easily disappointed in Beyoncé's self-sabotages, but lacking a live album for this would be really a missed opportunity for RENAISSANCE era promo but more importantly, for the fans' enjoyment.

 

I think given it's clearly inheriting Homecoming's visual style, I'd hope she takes the same live-album approach to it, because imo the live album does 50% of the work in making the film/concert the iconic piece of work that it is.

 

 

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Ugh. This song still goes so hard. :celestial4:

 

 

Release, repressed,

Suppressed, regressed,

Redirect all that anger (To me)

Give it to me (To me), give it to me (You can do it)
Everybody, Everybody, Everybody
I'm built for this, I can take it (Everybody)
I can take it, you can do it

 

:turkey:

it's kinda iconic to think that even over a year after the release of the album, the era will have a tour film released in theatres, potentially a live album, and...if they are still a thing, an entire visual album to come as well.


I know we here don't like waiting, but there is something to be said for an era that is not over after 6 months (like so many streaming eras are).

Just now, Kassi said:

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Anyway, the point isn't to litigate this issue in this very thread, there's already a million other threads (and a Megathread) for that. 

 

The point is that there's not a perception issue Beyoncé needs to be worried about. And it's not on her to LEAD the charge on this very complex one. The criticism of her here amounts to no different than what as attempted by "Beyonce's Ivy Park uses slave labor :angry:". It's a CHARACTER hit. It has very little to do with the wider BDS initiative (which is a flop by the way... probably the most ineffective activism campaign in living memory) nor the conflict at large.

 

It's people getting online with their Twitter fingers and offloading the tension from their boring, stressful lives onto Beyoncé. And Hive needs to STOP feeding into it.

 

Ah Oct 23-26. Two weeks after attack makes sense. Also polling finds shift towards Palestine  in those under 40, essentially a split. This is actually great news and shows the shift in opinion throughout the last few years even amongst elder boomers. This doesn’t normally happen and unprecedented. Thanks!
 

 There’s very much a perception issue as genocide is happening. Nelson Mandela, Malcolm X, civil rights leaders,  and all human rights organizations, the UN, Geneva conventions, etc all have confirmed an apartheid state. The only country essentially standing against a ceasefire is the US. 
 

Americans have historically been on the wrong side of public opinion from civil rights to Iraq war. Eventually they come around. People are fighting a HUGE force/propaganda narrative. So is doesn’t really bother me where people stand 2 weeks after October 7th. I’m seeing the education and shift happening which is great. 
 

This article perfectly explains why many celebs backed off Palestine issue in 2022.

https://scheerpost.com/2022/09/24/the-israel-files-wikileaks-docs-show-top-hollywood-producers-working-with-israel-to-defend-its-war-crimes/amp/

 

Anyways, I don’t need Beyoncé to say anything or be an activist. It just would be smart to not to appear to align herself with an apartheid and ethnic cleansing currently happening in real time. And people have a right to express that. 
 

Im not going to shame beyonce or anyone else who disagrees with her.

 

 

 

Beyoncé will remain unbothered and thriving away from those FREAKS on Twitter pining for engagement.

 

I, mother of my house, vow, to keep my f*cking mouth to myself

 

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1 hour ago, sillycilla said:

Anyways, I feel like the international numbers may be close to $60-80 mill and the US around $40 mill. She is looking to gross well over $100 million, hopefully.

Reposting.

 

Does anyone else see the potential for $100 million gross internationally?

Theaters in Jamaica has started advertising!!!  It’s official, they will be carrying it, waiting on the tickets to be available:jonnycat:

10 minutes ago, Blue Rose said:

Zero Grammy nominations for DEL RESTROOM 

 

:clack:

Doesn’t even deserve a Grammy Consideration :-*

37 minutes ago, swissman said:

she just HAS to have a live album for this film... like, isn't it the most live concert of maybe her career!? and her vocals were PRISTINE!!!

 

you know me, I don't get easily disappointed in Beyoncé's self-sabotages, but lacking a live album for this would be really a missed opportunity for RENAISSANCE era promo but more importantly, for the fans' enjoyment.

 

I think given it's clearly inheriting Homecoming's visual style, I'd hope she takes the same live-album approach to it, because imo the live album does 50% of the work in making the film/concert the iconic piece of work that it is.

 

 

The way how she SLAYED Dangerously in Love every single show is enough proof it deserves a Live Album. Tbh not releasing a live version of DIL by itself, would be major sabotage.

I really don't think celebrating the ignorance of people in polls who support a genocide is the argument you all think it is. Have you seen initial polling on Vietnam or Iraq? I guess activists are wrong again somehow lol

^Give it up, Deelishis. That conflict is not Bey's problem. 

 

If you weren't calling for a full scale boycott of American industries during the 20 year US occupation of Afghanistan (which ended just 2 years ago), then I don't want to hear it. :bird:

 

 

there are much bigger issues with the conflict in the middle east than a movie screening, be f*cking for real.

 

y'all did the MOST with dubai, and this is exactly the same. stay focused. like how the US government is funding israel with weapons and cash. that's going to happen whether beyoncé shows her movie there or not. like please.

Grammys in the next room

None for Bey and Trav

Bulletproof the whole thing

Step into the livestream

People who announce noms

I can’t see the echoes (delresto)

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