What's the point of having a thread about anything Beyoncé if it's always full of swifties? That Visuals thread is already not about Beyoncé. 

1 hour ago, ScorpiosGroove said:

if it’s just a one time only thing for a weekend i can see it work, especially if there’s big cameos, some acting (not hers pls) and the trailer looks exciting 

 

i don’t see her releasing the tour so soon after finishing it + the visuals fit more since it was rumored she wanted to show them in theaters first before putting them on streaming 

 

this is all so exciting 

Didn’t Taylor release the theater announcement a couple of weeks after her last US date and right after filming the show? That was a quick turn around. 
 

Even if it’s a weekend thing, how will that work? I don’t believe an artist has ever released music videos to theaters, only concert films. Idk, I’m having a hard time wrapping my mind around it. If other A list stars are involved, maybe just maybe gross 5 mill.

 

I’m excited but her business reputation is on the line after BIK. Studios and steamers are paying attention to the numbers.

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6 minutes ago, Cbreezy said:

I think you hit the nail on the head. A "one weekend only" approach is exactly the type of marketing trick to ensure hype and hoopla. It also protects her from the demands of huge gross. If she does big numbers, great...the hype worked. If it does moderately well, then "it was just one weekend". It's a win-win.

MTE, as you said it would both protect her from a mediocre box office and push people to go see it due to the exclusivity and one time only approach 

 

i think that’s the most logical (and likely) thing to happen 

 

also her showing the visuals in theaters doesn’t prevent her from showing the tour there next year, it would serve as a test without her doing much (as usual) 

34 minutes ago, Shinning said:

If Halsey can drop an album film in theaters then so can Bey. We just can't expect Taylor Swift numbers from her.

True, but let's be real. 

 

The GP expectations for a Halsey or Travis Scott are way different for a Bey / Taylor.

 

I'm already annoyed at how easy it will be for people to draw comparisons to Bey and Taylor, while purposefully neglecting the fact one harnesses a huge middle America audience and the other is a Black R&B act. 

 

I'm hoping Bey can pull off what seemed to be her desired angle. Limited theatrical release and a very quick turnaround with its arrival on streaming.

 

A theatrical release announced imminently will benefit from the end of tour / "what's next" hype and a streaming debut shortly after that will benefit her in the holiday season.

1 hour ago, Otter said:

Honestly I don't necessarily see why the tour would be very successful in cinemas either... I think Taylor has warped peoples expectations. 

 

As a fan of live music I wouldn't go to see anyone's concert film in the cinema other than my fav. I can't see the GP running to check it

 

Ultimately it'll probably just be a very limited release without the intention of big box office success. 

 

A film I think has more potential but is really dependant on quality & cast. It can't be lines of poetry, standing in formation looking cute etc. It needs actual drama performances, plot etc

If you look at all the last really successful concert films, Justin Bieber and Katy Perry. Current popular pop artists  of their time with a teen audience that will run to theaters. There is at least a precedence for concert films having more appeal. 
 

If the visual film is more along the lines of the OTR trailer with Jake Gyllenhall, I would feel a little differently. It’s still a big risk.

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We should prepare ourselves for the inevitable. We KNOW Bey is promo adverse, and I don’t see that changing. At most, we’ll get a slick trailer and a few lavish featurettes. And regardless of how well it performs, people will still call it/her a flop. So whatever happens, just enjoy the ride. This will be a cute moment for the Hive to come together post tour and once again celebrate her best album. 

1 minute ago, sillycilla said:

Didn’t Taylor release the theater announcement a couple of weeks after her last US date and right after filming the show? That was a quick turn around. 
 

Even if it’s a weekend thing, how will that work? I don’t think an artist has ever released music videos to theaters, only concert films. Idk, I’m having a hard time wrapping my mind around it. If other A list stars are involved, maybe just maybe gross 5 mill.

 

I’m excited but her business reputation is on the line after BIK. Studios and steamers are paying attention to the numbers.

now you know that girl isn’t a hands on perfectionist like Bey is, her sloppy album covers and "visuals" prove that 

she’s all about doing bare minimum to squeeze every last penny out of her naive fans as soon & as often as possible

 

Halsey showed a visual album for an album that made 0 noise in IMAX theaters, if she can do it so can Bey

 

this is mostly about money so if she’s really at risk of not making as much as she wants to she’ll start working, she CAN promote if it means more cash for her, that could work in our favor for once 

 

nonetheless, i still think this is mostly just a formality, trying a new visual medium while getting some money + ensuring she can be eligible for a maximum amount of awards 

I don't even care what it is and how she does it at this point, just DO IT and let us see the ******* thing  

 

It it flops she deserves it, her shenanigans were gonna catch up to her at some point 

18 minutes ago, Draper. said:

What's the point of having a thread about anything Beyoncé if it's always full of swifties? That Visuals thread is already not about Beyoncé. 

They seriously ruin everything smh.

Beyonce having a theatre release announcing she's going vegan again 

I'm not getting my hopes up for **** for Creole Lady

10 minutes ago, ICLDXU4HS said:

The tour would do infinitely better at the box office (just straight-up the show, no documentary shenanigans). Which is why I'm expecting that for now. 

I dunno.

 

In one regard, a pure tour film would be a good way of squeezing more $$$ out of the soon-to-be-ended run. But I just don't see how this is much of a "sell" for anyone other than super stans, those who couldn't go to the tour in person, and markets she skipped like LATAM. Add to that the idea that it won't even have the Homecoming doc element and it just doesn't feel like an "event" nor much bang for ones buck. 

 

For better or worse, the missing "visuals" have become a "thing". Being anchored in narrative and the cinematic literally screams theater release over a tour performance most saw in person or have re-watched over and over on YouTube since May.

 

Taylor is an anomaly in that she could release a short film shot on her iPhone and her stans would still ensure it hit 100mill gross just because. 

 

IMO, Bey's visual pillars are pretty established and kind of automatically make clear which medium theyre each best suited to:

 

* Visual Albums: her premium, cinematic, and theatrical leaning output [Cinema]

 

* Concert Films / BTS Docs: more intimate, humanizing, and insightful. [Home Viewing]

1 hour ago, Cbreezy said:

I'm kinda with you in terms of being nervous about gross. Bey's numbers haven't been on front-street for a while. And the last time they were, with Lemonade's TV broadcast, they weren't anything to scream about. Since then, she's been protected by the fact streamers don't publish numbers (Homecoming, BIK). 

 

Like you said, they'll have to go IN with the promo. Even then, assuming there's no topline partner (e.g. a studio like Lionsgate) and it really just a venue deal with AMC, then it really will boil down to how much tangible hype she can generate. Which is hard to assess. There's an appetite for the visuals but they are so late that the ship may have passed. 

 

Even timing-wise, it's not really ideal. Thinking of big vehicles for hype, a Super Bowl commercial would do the trick. But that's after this supposed Nov drop. There aren't any award shows or any other big shows to attach to. If there's no sponsor, TV commercials, billboards, etc will have to come out of pocket. Which is marketing spend that then has to be recouped alongside the cost of producing the visuals. 

 

I may totally be under estimating her power, as she legit sold out a world tour off an IG post. But, I guess we'll just have to see. 

You summed it up for me. We all know Beyoncé is a legend and can sell out a live show. She’s been so reclusive the last 10 years that her mainstream appeal has been tamed. Taylor is the it of it girls right now with broad appeal. Just because it works for her, it will not have the same result for Beyoncé. And honestly Halsey isn’t as popular as she thought. 
 

Sigh, I guess I have to prepare for the inevitable drags I will give others for coming at the numbers. At least we are getting content.
 

Promo isn’t needed but a good first trailer will be, which scares me because the first trailer for BIK was a disaster that led to all those fake theories. 
Also no time for cryptic posts. She needs to be clear in her announcement that this is going to theaters only and what it’s about. 
Any opening over 10M will be a success. Dont let those miserable people convince you of the opposite.

I wonder what the visuals will be rated? Hope she comes thru with a raunchy R rating. 

9 minutes ago, Tripthelight said:

I wonder what the visuals will be rated? Hope she comes thru with a raunchy R rating. 

judging be how horny and experimental the album is + all the swearing + her having her **** or ass out in half of the album photoshoot… yeah she’s gonna be butt naked for this 

the thought of a weird but high quality art film to accompany her best album without it being PG friendly Disney nonsense makes me salivate 

 

Giselle said **** them kids 

The film will def be Rated R. 
 

Spoiler

I just know Virgos Groove will be a lesbian scene and Bey finally exposes her sneaky link on screen.

 

 

The visuals will be PG13 but the language will be R rated which will make the film R Rated. I don’t think any of the music projects recently released in theaters are R rated. This will be a first, and actually makes me feel like the rumors are false. R rated are just hard to sell.

Movie is a mess, but whew, if she has visuals like this...

 

 

6 minutes ago, Blue Rose said:

The visuals will be PG13 but the language will be R rated which will make the film R Rated. I don’t think any of the music projects recently released in theaters are R rated. This will be a first, and actually makes me feel like the rumors are false. R rated are just hard to sell.

i mean worst case she can just use the censored version of the album for the film release and the explicit one for the streaming version if that’s the case 

The film potentially being R-rated…and the first of its kind to be released in theaters for a weekend only event is exciting to me. And creates even more distinction from #that family friendly circus show. 

5 minutes ago, ScorpiosGroove said:

i mean worst case she can just use the censored version of the album for the film release and the explicit one for the streaming version if that’s the case 

This is most likely IMO. 

 

If she was going the Rated R route, she'd be better off accepting whatever the upper limit the streamers were willing to pay for guaranteed visibility and protection from having her numbers on front street. 

 

A Rated R theater release would be almost asking to flop.

13 minutes ago, Tripthelight said:

The film potentially being R-rated…and the first of its kind to be released in theaters for a weekend only event is exciting to me. And creates even more distinction from #that family friendly circus show. 

Yes I prefer this! 

Beyoncé has built her entire brand on exclusivity, why would we want her to water down the release with the edited version of Renaissance?!!

 

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2 hours ago, Devin said:

I hope the last show is all silver btw.

 

You have the wrong Formation one, Devin.

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZGJv7ETEM/
 a live debut of the visuals  in the sphere would be iconic