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Beyoncé

This is part 1 of the Beyoncé discussion.

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2 hours ago, ScorpiosGroove said:

so we’re getting a mess ? :tornado: cause everytime pop stars try the whole "this is the new stripped back me" it ends up being a boring snoozefest nobody likes à la Joanne or Chemtrails Over The Country Club 

Its Beyonce we're talking about. We rightfully drag her at times, however musically speaking, shes never disappointed on a full album. Shes one of one after all. Im sure a record like this would spawn several career Highlights plus a more approachable Beyonce, which in her case can only be seen as a big plus

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3 minutes ago, Kristie Kuwa said:

It’s Beyonce we're talking about. We rightfully drag her at times, however musically speaking, shes never disappointed on a full album. Shes one of one after all. Im sure a record like this would spawn several career Highlights plus a more approachable Beyonce, which in her case can only be seen as a big plus

please don’t make me type up another paragraph, the first one made me tired enough :redface:

 

what i could’ve added tho is, personally speaking, i don’t need a more approachable Beyoncé. I’m totally fine with the robotic, goddess one. i like my pop stars larger than life and i don’t really care about her private life or the "real Beyoncé", i love the mega superstar artisté that we get (even tho she could be a little less secretive :rip:)

38 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

If anything, at ii will be closer to her DC days. 

 

Whatever main genre is, it will include R&B and hiphop songs, just as any of her previous albums.

I would LOVE to hear that. 

14 minutes ago, Mitsouko said:

wait @ShouldersSideways Venice Film Festival starts tonight

 

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And it goes until 9/9

 

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You know they offered the key to the city so they could meet Bey so imagine their disappointment when Yvette took a day off from the Kindness Store to show up instead.

 

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34 minutes ago, Mitsouko said:

wait @ShouldersSideways Venice Film Festival starts tonight

 

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Plus the SuperBLUEMoon?

 

Coincidence? 

 

I think (not)

Beyonce is taking a break until next year after the tour is over. it's Holiday season and if anything she has the Parfum to promote which[the marketing] has already probably been shot and created. if she wants to do anything, I wouldn't mind a full remix album. 

23 minutes ago, ShouldersSideways said:

You know they offered the key to the city so they could meet Bey so imagine their disappointment when Yvette took a day off from the Kindness Store to show up instead.

 

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This is so :toofunny2:

17 minutes ago, Lose My Breath said:

Plus the SuperBLUEMoon?

 

Coincidence? 

 

I think (not)

well the lies already started cause i just found out the moon is NOT going to be blue… it’s just the name  :redface:

 

also Yvette coming to collect that key… kinda surprised she didn’t send Tina :rip:

Stripped back or not, Beyoncé's always going to be giving something extra because she's a singer-singer. Stripping things back isn't making things easier for her or necessarily more boring for us, it's just another way for her to execute flawless vocals.
 

 

 

I personally am not so drawn to her more stripped back songs..but that's because the songs themselves don't live up to what a stripped back song requires. Sandcastles to me is definitely the weakest on Lemonade because it's so simplistic, but not necessarily cleverly so. Compare that to Moon River which is so simple, but the melody is stunning, haunting, perfection...or her Heat version of Fever, or her (brief) cover of Bang, Bang or her cover of Wishing on a Star, etc. Disappear from IASF works though, imo and Otherside is a stunning example of getting stripped back right (through the melody stripped back to) it in her catalogue.

 

 

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I don't think Beyoncé would ever do a fully stripped back album though, she seems to like variety too much to devote an entire act to just one kind of music.

8 hours ago, Cbreezy said:

I can really see her pulling off something with Country influences. But more of a dedication to the South and Southern music + culture in a broad sense. 

 

Much like Rennie covers a wide scope of Dance, I can see Act II fusing songs like Daddy Lessons, No Angel, this much talked about Dolly Parton collab/cover, Bounce-inspired bops, Rolling in the Deep-like tracks, and other terrain she's not explored yet. A Southern gumbo of sorts.

 

They are all sounds she's toyed with in the past, but a full-fledged project comprised of this sound works on every level IMO: 

 

* It's true to her Southern roots

* Aligns with the whole reclaiming Black genres story of Rennie

* if packaged right (horses, cowboy hats, and smart features) will do enough "present" as enough of a "yee-haa" album to p*ss off Country "purists" and garner controversy press.

* Commercially speaking, these sonics are melodically closer to the Pop and Urban sounds required for Bey to get radio play and for the project to not skew too niche or radical. 

 

Now, this Rock stuff has been getting on my last nerve. Not necessarily because I don't want it, but it's literally a fan fabrication started on here or Twitter. No one anywhere in any official or semi-official capacity has teased Rock. Here's the original and only article teasing the sounds of the album/s:

 

https://variety.com/2022/music/news/beyonces-renaissance-album-dance-country-1235296574/

 

As unapologetic Chart Hive, I don't see how a Rock album will serve her well commercially now. I think for who her core and even mainstream bases are, it doesn't strike as the ish people will run to stream or gag to see live on tour. I don't mind it, but perhaps it should come in the actual "IDGAF about competing" stage of her career (which isn't now IMO). 

 

If there is an Act III, I'd much rather she goes the big ballad route. Literally give us a whole new suite of iconic Pop ballads ala Adele's Hello, a new Halo, some real big melodic singing sh*t. There's still a commercial market for that (on streaming and radio) and it lends itself to her whole angle of stadium moments. Or even conceiving an intimate companion show that runs alongside her stadium show (much like Gaga is doing in Vegas with her Jazz show and exactly what Ed Sheeran is doing with his simultaneous stadium/small-venue tours)

The photoshoot for Vogue kind of gave it away 

 

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We know Beyoncé loves hinting stuff, she has done it before and she did it for Renaissance as well ("a renaissance is coming"). 

 

Secondly, Beyoncé herself stopped giving a **** with 4 by literally recording the music she loved after scoring her most successful era of her career. 

The same applies to Lemonade, in which era she insisted on showcasing the artistic value of the project. 

 

She could literally flop with an indie album and sell out a venue the next day. 

Radio and streaming don't give the full picture since touring is the main source of income for singers. 

 

Beyoncé has already stopped competing by the way, her words. 

 

5 hours ago, ScorpiosGroove said:

same for CI, it’s a chore to get through that performance and ironically the audience doesn’t seem to care about it much :rip:

Cuff It Wetter remix into Energy >>>>>

 

Which is a shame given Cuff It's marvelous arrangement. 

 

3 hours ago, ScorpiosGroove said:

so we’re getting a mess ? :tornado: cause everytime pop stars try the whole "this is the new stripped back me" it ends up being a boring snoozefest nobody likes à la Joanne or Chemtrails Over The Country Club 

Beyoncé is no Lady Gaga nor Lana Del Rey, thank God. 

 

Satellites, Disappear, That's Why You're Beautiful are stunning intimate songs.

 

If the majority of the users here aren't into that, well, that's their problem. Beyoncé is going to release whatever she feels like, whether it's a Country, Rock or ballad-driven album. 

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If the concept is reclaiming black genres, third act will either be rock or some other genre, which I doubt. She’s not gonna do an album full of ballads and she’s not gonna go back to the classic R&B Beyoncé cause she wouldn’t be reclaiming anything.

 

If it’s rock, it still would be Beyoncé kind of rock. Don’t Hurt Yourself is no classic rock song. She would blend it with blues and funk and even hip hop. No doubt. It would be Prince inspired definitely 

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10 minutes ago, ShouldersSideways said:

Squid Game: Red Light Green Light (2021)

 

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:lmao:

 

If she included this during Energy mb everybody would mute 

 

1 minute ago, Jon Snow said:

If the concept is reclaiming black genres, third act will either be rock or some other genre, which I doubt.

I’d love a Tina-inspired rock kinda album.

I think it’s stupid to even worry about what genre the next acts will be, and whether they’ll be good or not. We have seen time and time again that she continues to elevate herself musically when it comes to her studio albums, and we all know that it won’t just be one genre, whether she does a stripped back, rock, or country album it’s all going to be amazing, and nothing we can even predict. The only way I could see them being a chop is if it’s really another EIL god forbid.
 

What we NEED to worry about, is how she’s going to sabotage these next 2 “eras” even worse than Rennie:giraffe:

It kills me how hard her neck strains when she does this. How does she manage not spraining it I don’t know

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4 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

If the concept is reclaiming black genres, third act will either be rock or some other genre, which I doubt. She’s not gonna do an album full of ballads and she’s not gonna go back to the classic R&B Beyoncé cause she wouldn’t be reclaiming anything.

 

If it’s rock, it still would be Beyoncé kind of rock. Don’t Hurt Yourself is no classic rock song. She would blend it with blues and funk and even hip hop. No doubt. It would be Prince inspired definitely 

Donna Summer was rock-influenced and she didn’t make a dance record. We all know that she loves Donna Summer, and it would fit with the Renaissance theme 

 

1 minute ago, Devin said:

I’d love a Tina-inspired rock kinda album.

And also this. Beyoncé incredibly takes after Tina. It would fit her so well

 

It would be a Beyoncé album, not rock album. Same goes for act ii 

3 minutes ago, SashaDevachelli said:

What we NEED to worry about, is how she’s going to sabotage these next 2 “eras” even worse than Rennie:giraffe:

when Act II is the special gift in the perfume box and there's no other way to buy or stream it :tornado:

by the way the new perfume is probably her worst smelling perfume

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Just now, QueenB said:

by the way the new perfume is probably her worst smelling perfume

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where do you sample it? I'll sniff today and cancel my order if I hate it

 

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