KingDavid

I'm feeling this for sure.

Vision of Love alone clears anything Taylor has written. Be so for real.

Because she's not a good singer, not a good dancer, not a good performer, not particularly fashionable, not particularly dynamic a personality, and has a image pretty specifically curated and built around whiteness. She's the perfect MPG for the current "anti-woke" era which helps to explain why she's so popular, with which demographics, and why artists like Morgan Wallen were able to ride to the top of the Hot 100 because of her influence on pop music culture. The fact that her stans throw her numbers around against artists that the average person will objectively consider more talented at SINGING or PERFORMING only to be shouted down with ShE wRiTeS hEr oWn MuSiC like it's some kind of gotcha when her music is as juvenile and purposely inoffensive as the rest of her. Unless she needs to drag a "slutty" woman.

I don't argue with children, carry on.

Were you born in the 2000s or something? Paula Abdul has huge hits and her legacy is present in the dance breaks of all the pop stars who were trying to keep up with her. The woman choreographed Janet for ****'s sake.

Ariana had a Hot 100 #1 this year with no album out. Personal drama aside she is definitely still a MPG.

Is this how you describe someone who took significant time off because both her parents had cancer?

No, she's currently a flop. Katy flopped out of the conversation, Gaga half flopped out half focused on other ventures, and Rihanna has basically retired until further notice so I wouldn't include any of them as MPGs, currently. They are still Pop Icons, and Rihanna's MPG status would be restored if she actually continued to release music. TO ME, the only current MPGs are Taylor Swift, Beyonce, Adele, and Ariana Grande. Add SZA if you consider her more Pop than Alt-R&B.

Naomi is one of the biggest names in modeling, hon.

Rihanna > Beyonce > Adele > Gaga > Taylor

Chromatica doesn't belong in the same conversation as Renaissance. Or in the conversation of Lady Gaga's best work.

Musically? MJ > Queen > Rihanna > Bad Bunny > the rest

There are plenty of straight (as in, self-identify as straight, actively seek out romantic/sexual relationships with women, and move about society with unquestioned heterosexual privilege) who also are willing to sexually experiment with men. It's crazy that everyone accepts this is true for women, but not men, as if we're different species. If straight people weren't so homophobic and gay people weren't so obsessed with bisexual erasure (but only of men) and/or catty dismissiveness rooted in jealousy whenever this topic comes up, we could have a real discussion about it.

We are literally talking about gay male culture, in which "I'm only attracted to white men" and "I openly treat non-white gay men with hostility, dismissiveness, derision, or scorn" are foundational tenets. The framework is important. Gay men do treat preferences like they mean mandatory requirements, which contributes to the experiences of non-white gay men being comparatively negative. You can say attraction is passive but choosing to exclude or demean non-white men in all manner of social situations -because- you are not attracted to them -because- they are not white is white supremacist behavior.

Where was the lie in my first statement? If you're only attracted to white guys, you are a white supremacist. You literally believe that whiteness is a superior trait, and being white makes a man more attractive as compared to blackness, Asian-ness, etc. You're telling me Donald Trump, Brad Pitt, Timothee Chalamet, and Michael Cera are the same level of attractive, and far more attractive than the likes of Godfrey Gao or Broderick Hunter by virtue of being white? The other hard hitting truth is that gays don't want to accept that for what it is, hence you reading it and feeling the need to argue. Stop equating "white supremacist" with its most extreme forms, let's start there. As I've been saying, white supremacist ideology (even in more "benign" forms) is an everyday occurrence in LGBTQ+ interactions.