January 11, 20251 yr comment_27030410 Link to comment https://atrl.net/forums/topic/495355-amazon-joins-meta-and-will-halt-dei-programs/ Share on other sites Share on Bluesky Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
January 11, 20251 yr comment_27030491 This is happening throughout the nation. I'm not really surprised. DEI jobs have huge turnover rates. Link to comment https://atrl.net/forums/topic/495355-amazon-joins-meta-and-will-halt-dei-programs/#findComment-27030491 Share on other sites Share on Bluesky Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
January 11, 20251 yr comment_27030620 The next four years are about to be so ******* bleak. Link to comment https://atrl.net/forums/topic/495355-amazon-joins-meta-and-will-halt-dei-programs/#findComment-27030620 Share on other sites Share on Bluesky Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
January 11, 20251 yr comment_27030648 Time to: 1. Have a revolutionary new social platform so Meta can go to **** 2. Amazon is still pretty **** as a corporation, this won't change anything. 3. Let's see how many companies change their logo in June Link to comment https://atrl.net/forums/topic/495355-amazon-joins-meta-and-will-halt-dei-programs/#findComment-27030648 Share on other sites Share on Bluesky Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
January 11, 20251 yr comment_27030700 I think DEI as a concept is a good thing but anyone who has spent 5 minutes in a corporate DEI training can tell you it is a farce and a waste of of time so nothing of value really lost here tbh. I didn't work there but the stories my friends working at Twitter told me about the DEI initiatives in the 2010s Link to comment https://atrl.net/forums/topic/495355-amazon-joins-meta-and-will-halt-dei-programs/#findComment-27030700 Share on other sites Share on Bluesky Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
January 11, 20251 yr comment_27030719 Ah so only white people will be able to get jobs when they probably aren't even the most qualified for the roles. Awesome. Link to comment https://atrl.net/forums/topic/495355-amazon-joins-meta-and-will-halt-dei-programs/#findComment-27030719 Share on other sites Share on Bluesky Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
January 11, 20251 yr comment_27030888 1 hour ago, Domination said: I think DEI as a concept is a good thing but anyone who has spent 5 minutes in a corporate DEI training can tell you it is a farce and a waste of of time so nothing of value really lost here tbh. I didn't work there but the stories my friends working at Twitter told me about the DEI initiatives in the 2010s Also, let's not forget that this and the Juneteenth holiday were the best they could throw at the public to quell the 2020 protests while not fomenting any actual change. And it worked as we continue to see overbloated police budgets while avoiding any actual accountability for the pigs on the force. These weren't worth anything to begin with! Link to comment https://atrl.net/forums/topic/495355-amazon-joins-meta-and-will-halt-dei-programs/#findComment-27030888 Share on other sites Share on Bluesky Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
January 11, 20251 yr comment_27031068 As much as I value the principles of diversity, equity, and inclusion, it's probably for the best that these programs end given the times that we're in. They put targets on the backs of minority groups without delivering sufficient material gain. And now you have every LGBTQ person or Black person with a job being called a DEI hire who didn't earn their place. Same with affirmative action, when these programs are gone, what then will conservatives blame for minority groups getting ahead? Link to comment https://atrl.net/forums/topic/495355-amazon-joins-meta-and-will-halt-dei-programs/#findComment-27031068 Share on other sites Share on Bluesky Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
January 11, 20251 yr comment_27031173 It's fine. Tech companies are no longer the shiny, progressive startups of the past. They have peaked and are in cultural decline. They're the old guard now, like manufacturing used to be. They should not be looked at for direction. They're now $$ hungry capitalist machines looking for cheap(-er) labor + political favors. It's the cycle of life. Think of them like you would GM, Carrier or Johnson & Johnson. Link to comment https://atrl.net/forums/topic/495355-amazon-joins-meta-and-will-halt-dei-programs/#findComment-27031173 Share on other sites Share on Bluesky Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
January 11, 20251 yr comment_27031199 3 hours ago, Domination said: I think DEI as a concept is a good thing but anyone who has spent 5 minutes in a corporate DEI training can tell you it is a farce and a waste of of time so nothing of value really lost here tbh. I didn't work there but the stories my friends working at Twitter told me about the DEI initiatives in the 2010s A lot of well-intentioned initiatives seem like they were sometimes exploited by the most privileged of the marginalized demographics it aimed to help. Like the aims of making sure people with marginalized identities are not discriminated against in hiring practices? Great Addressing workplace harassment and policies that negatively and materially harm marginalized people (see: certain black hairstyles deemed 'unprofessional')? Great While if you'd want to address the root causes (funding in low-income schools to get more people of a specific economic or ethnic background into STEM, for example), those new departments or branches in the company would be lobbying politicians for changes in laws, etc. But instead of either happening, it felt like for every 1 positive policy win that had wider effects, there were 8 or so instances of someone from an affluent background but marginalized identity using these kinds of initiatives to personally enrich themselves and their friends in whatever career field that they were operating within. Lots of consulting happening for the sake of consulting, discussions of how to be inclusive without action, etc. Which is like... werk, sis, get money! But we're now seeing the impact of not utilizing these levers of power to first ensure legal and structural victories for people over symbolic and personal ones. Basically what happens when policies become removed from understanding class / material reality as the ground issue of everything. Edited January 11, 20251 yr by Communion Link to comment https://atrl.net/forums/topic/495355-amazon-joins-meta-and-will-halt-dei-programs/#findComment-27031199 Share on other sites Share on Bluesky Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
January 11, 20251 yr comment_27031305 It looks like all that YouTube propaganda worked. I hate American society Link to comment https://atrl.net/forums/topic/495355-amazon-joins-meta-and-will-halt-dei-programs/#findComment-27031305 Share on other sites Share on Bluesky Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
January 11, 20251 yr comment_27031564 Elections have consequences throughout sectors. Sadly, things are only going to keep getting worse. Link to comment https://atrl.net/forums/topic/495355-amazon-joins-meta-and-will-halt-dei-programs/#findComment-27031564 Share on other sites Share on Bluesky Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
January 11, 20251 yr comment_27031569 The way these b+tches went full down the Nazi route. Burn in hell, Mark. Link to comment https://atrl.net/forums/topic/495355-amazon-joins-meta-and-will-halt-dei-programs/#findComment-27031569 Share on other sites Share on Bluesky Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
January 11, 20251 yr comment_27031572 It seems like a number of people have fallen for Republican propaganda thinking of a DEI hire as literally a company hiring some random, unqualified POC individual off the street, rather than being prioritized in a pool of applicants who are all qualified. Link to comment https://atrl.net/forums/topic/495355-amazon-joins-meta-and-will-halt-dei-programs/#findComment-27031572 Share on other sites Share on Bluesky Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
January 12, 20251 yr comment_27032070 7 hours ago, XDNA said: It seems like a number of people have fallen for Republican propaganda thinking of a DEI hire as literally a company hiring some random, unqualified POC individual off the street, rather than being prioritized in a pool of applicants who are all qualified. Isnt this problematic itself? I know the goal is to end the racial/ethnic bias and discrimination in hiring but isnt this a form of bias as well, only couched as "prioritization"? It suffers the same problem as affirmative action, it doesnt really resolve the issue itself. It just creates more divisions and resentment and ironically increases the likelihood of more ethnic/racial bias. A glorified stop gap measure. Hiring should be based on competence, skill and compatability period. White/Black/Asian/Latino/etc, if you're good and likeable enough, you're hired, if you suck, bye bye Link to comment https://atrl.net/forums/topic/495355-amazon-joins-meta-and-will-halt-dei-programs/#findComment-27032070 Share on other sites Share on Bluesky Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
January 12, 20251 yr comment_27032223 DEI is and was trash. No one should be included on the basis of fulfilling a corporate diversity initiative. It may sound like bringing equity on the surface, but really it only leads to performative inclusion that creates resentment and toxicity. I say this is as a friend of someone who is the DEI director for one of the most DEMONIC health insurance companies. Like, what is the point? The death panels are lined with trans ppl and womyn? capitalism is so disjointed and fundamentally toxic at this stage that these tactics have become increasingly useless and purposefully divisive Edited January 12, 20251 yr by modeblock Link to comment https://atrl.net/forums/topic/495355-amazon-joins-meta-and-will-halt-dei-programs/#findComment-27032223 Share on other sites Share on Bluesky Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
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