Just now, xrosup said:

The gag is I don't hate them  it's just ridiculous how much of a failure that entire project is

 Since you don't seem to like nugu groups apparently, I don't see you dragging your other faves Cravity though? 

 

 

Anyways, it's crazy how every JYP bg since SKZ have legit bombed:

 

Boys Story - BOMBED 

Xdinary Hereos - BOMBED

NEXZ - BOMBED

KickFlip - BOMBED

 

2 minutes ago, xrosup said:

NEXZ and KICKFLIP having a khia off

It's sad cause both groups should in reality be competing with Cortis, BND, RIIZE, NCT Wish, TWS, ZB1 etc., but they can't even outdo groups like Xikers  

 

3 minutes ago, Pluto6 said:

 Since you don't seem to like nugu groups apparently, I don't see you dragging your other faves Cravity though? 

I drag CAVITY with my friends all the time  Have you seen the numbers their recents comebacks are doing? It's tragic. Their latest title track hasn't crossed 1M streams yet and it's been 3 months since it's been released. It's an unfortunate situation really cause the music is quite good, something that can't be said about DICKFLOP

3 minutes ago, xrosup said:

I drag CAVITY with my friends all the time  Have you seen the numbers their recents comebacks are doing? It's tragic. Their latest title track hasn't crossed 1M streams yet and it's been 3 months since it's been released. It's an unfortunate situation really cause the music is quite good, something that can't be said about DICKFLOP

Crapity could never serve quality like this:

 

35 minutes ago, Pluto6 said:

Outside of inflated sales, KickFlip have officially become the biggest flop among Korean groups from the Big 4 labels

you know people used to say the exact thing about Stray Kidz before they kicked the deadweight right?

 

it is never too late.

1 hour ago, Graffiti said:

See what happens when you throw one of your members under the bus over a fake scandal, the bus eventually comes back to run you over. Justice for Haknyeon!

 

They didn't throw him under the bus, the company did, the members are still talking about him and to him.

31 minutes ago, Pluto6 said:

 Since you don't seem to like nugu groups apparently, I don't see you dragging your other faves Cravity though? 

 

 

Anyways, it's crazy how every JYP bg since SKZ have legit bombed:

 

Boys Story - BOMBED 

Xdinary Hereos - BOMBED

NEXZ - BOMBED

KickFlip - BOMBED

 

It's sad cause both groups should in reality be competing with Cortis, BND, RIIZE, NCT Wish, TWS, ZB1 etc., but they can't even outdo groups like Xikers  

 

Get's your fact straight BOYSTORY are SKZ senior, they debuted long before them.

 

What's so funny is when JYP wasn't heavily involved they had Top 10 songs in China 

 

This one for example peak #2.

 

Then all of a sudden JYP went and started to include them for Kcon or participate in JYP Korean Concert, that's when their chinese fanbase was starting to fall, but what really killed them... The Korean & US Debut
 

This whole time JYP & Tencent was lying saying they had a momentum overseas, when all their fans was in China. Like they spent YEARS creating a fanbase in China to abandon it around the time WayV was moving around.

Edited September 25, 20251 yr by Xalric

4 minutes ago, Xalric said:

Get's your fact straight BOYSTORY are SKZ senior, they debuted long before them.

 

 

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Stray Kids debuted on March 25, 2018 with District 9.

 

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On September 21, 2018, Boy Story made an official debut with their first mini album Enough.

 

3 minutes ago, Pluto6 said:

 

 

How Old Are U & Can't Stop were released one year prior. How Old Are U? Not being a Hit was relegated as a pre-release. They did a whole BABYMONSTER. They literally performed and promote the song as their debut. 

 

It's what he deserves   

 

40 minutes ago, Pluto6 said:

Anyways, it's crazy how every JYP bg since SKZ have legit bombed:

 

Boys Story - BOMBED 

Xdinary Hereos - BOMBED

NEXZ - BOMBED

KickFlip - BOMBED

 

It's sad cause both groups should in reality be competing with Cortis, BND, RIIZE, NCT Wish, TWS, ZB1 etc., but they can't even outdo groups like Xikers  

 

Xdinary Heroes deserves better because they have the best music out of these groups 

23 minutes ago, Xalric said:

They didn't throw him under the bus, the company did, the members are still talking about him and to him.

Mhm. Where are the public statements of support for someone they worked and lived with for 8 years, especially after he was cleared of any wrongdoing? Company be damned, you don't let something like that happen and go on publicly like they never existed. We need to stop normalizing this shitty behavior. The company's actions should obviously be the main target for blame but the members remain complicit in going along with it.

 

JUSTICE FOR HAKNYEON!!!

Edited September 25, 20251 yr by Graffiti

2 hours ago, redsing707 said:

Does someone notice their cover on streaming have an orange mark?

its actually tomato sauce 

1 hour ago, youresotoxic said:

 

Sis we're cancelling those men, you can't be posting this smut in here 

 

Spoiler

 

1 hour ago, Pluto6 said:

Outside of inflated sales, KickFlip have officially become the biggest flop among Korean groups from the Big 4 labels

I'm not sure If they are the biggest flop, but they definitely will need lots of promo, good branding and a bit of lucky to be a more successful group. 

 

I think they are in a weird spot where their songs are definitely more Korea-focused than something for western audience, but at the same time, even the boygroup of TripleS' agency probably has more buzz in Korea right now than JYPE has for boygroups. 

 

5 hours ago, Sheep said:

There was talk about it in a Big Bang group chat I'm in, I don't track individual circle updates so I couldn't personally speak on it. 

I wonder what it is. "Korean Sales" were originally HYBE fanboys and so I know there's a lot of bad blood, I just don't know the tea there.

4 hours ago, Witnessed ET said:

Oh THIS is that group? I swear I've heard one of their songs in shuffle on Spotify 

well lemme check them out. Enhypen had such stellar music right from the start so I'd expect this group to follow the same pattern. 

IZNA is excellent. Definitely huge potential here. They have a great main vocal.

4 hours ago, Zack said:

This OST is serving H2H teas...it sounds very cutesy and summery.

 

The total opposite of Dark Arts, but sounds like a bop to me

 

 

I actually love this. I need an electronic album from Aespa.

3 hours ago, the good guy_duh said:

what happened SM, we need another The Chase 

They specified that "The Chase" was a one-off and nothing like their sound. Probably because "The Chase" is a super typical SM sound.

2 hours ago, redsing707 said:

Does someone notice their cover on streaming have an orange mark?

The album announcement is coming Sunday and Spaghetti/tomato are our only spoilers so far. LSF says it's "FUN" and fits them better than "Hot."

2 hours ago, Mitsuki said:

I just saw It has 163k streams 

In 4 DAYS  

 

SKZ' streams weren't as bad in ******* 2018, like they were doing 3x better.

 

I just saw they have 24M total streams on Spotify. SKZ had 72M in 2018 — the first year their songs were on Spotify. 

 

This is just tragic  they will need a bigger miracle to hit big 

 

This is normal for boy groups. They don't get big until they establish a fandom and start doing numbers on Stationhead.

Karina laughing when Winter said Forever  

 

 

Ningning and Giselle please push for this 

 

Edited September 25, 20251 yr by Rhyme

 

1 hour ago, Graffiti said:

Mhm. Where are the public statements of support for someone they worked and lived with for 8 years, especially after he was cleared of any wrongdoing? Company be damned, you don't let something like that happen and go on publicly like they never existed. We need to stop normalizing this shitty behavior. The company's actions should obviously be the main target for blame but the members remain complicit in going along with it.

 

JUSTICE FOR HAKNYEON!!!

If you followed Eric on instagram instead of his thirst trap. You would have seen it. Their contract is almost due so we see it...

Also this is The Boyz during fansign

 

They've been seen leaving fansign and taken "break" all at once for 10 minutes leaving the staffs during promotions while they were fighting with the company.

Now ONEHUNDRED is threatning to sue QWER for their lightstick
https://www.chosun.com/english/kpop-culture-en/2025/09/25/27ZT2Y7NI5GXTCC6X3H76443QQ/

The group is against this and even sent message to QWER personally saying they were against it.

QWER company said they were in actually negociation to make this go smoothly behind the scene...

I don't want to be a *****.... But there is a patter here.

 

When TBZ moved agency, they were in discussion for trademark usage. IST said they were talking behind the scene on a compromise then all of a sudden ONEHUNDRED made a statment threatning to sue and saying IST was negociating in bad faith.

But then let's talk about how they dropped Haknyeon before any of the members knew about it even Haknyeon. Haknyeon couldn't defend himself, now Haknyeon was cleared of everything and is sueing the company.

But it's not all, let's go back further. Remember when CBX left SM. INB100 made a statement that SM wasn't negociating in good faith and was trying to block the members. They also did the same with Taemin...

Funny thing there is never a problem with ONEW, BPM would often complain about SM not giving them enough time or not negociating with them for SHINee schedule. But ONEW company have always time and are always ready... 

I'm not saying the company is bad... But I'm seeing a pattern here.

Edited September 25, 20251 yr by Xalric

JYP rumour that his next group might come in a survival show. And every saying to not do it. SIXTEEN Momo and eliminated trainee was pulled out of the audience to debut in Twice. Stray Kids JYP made people vote and some pay to vote for OT7 all that to debut the 9 members... 

 

The biggest scammer.

oh the beauty

 

 

 

Is the new MNET group new name acronyme is really ALD1 like ALDI...  
 

2 hours ago, Xalric said:

They didn't throw him under the bus, the company did, the members are still talking about him and to him.

then why aren't they speaking up

 

they're big boys well established in their career... if they all banded together and spoke up in support of him instead of pussying out, what is the label gonna do? 

 

16 minutes ago, Xalric said:

JYP rumour that his next group might come in a survival show. And every saying to not do it. SIXTEEN Momo and eliminated trainee was pulled out of the audience to debut in Twice. Stray Kids JYP made people vote and some pay to vote for OT7 all that to debut the 9 members... 

 

The biggest scammer.

i remember that SIXTEEN moment lmao

 

jyp talking about how twice would need a main dancer or something so i thought he was gonna bring back Chaeryoung (finalist)

 

but he pulled out momo (eliminated) instead 

12 minutes ago, Save-Me-Oprah said:

then why aren't they speaking up

 

they're big boys well established in their career... if they all banded together and spoke up in support of him instead of pussying out, what is the label gonna do? 

 

They own EVERYTHING. From their group name but for example they also bought all their mixtape songs. Now imagine a company who did this to the CEO

https://en.sportschosun.com/celebrity/2025/07/official-mc-mong-resigns-as-head-of-wonhundred-87920

MC Mong resigns as head of Wonhundred → Leaving Extreme Depression, deteriorating health

The same week than Haknyeon was fired, and then we learned that he didn't resigned but was fired.

 

What can they do, if they want to continue their career. They showed Haknyeon plenty of support on their live and messages and I showed a long post of that last month you were one of the people asking if your faves couldn't do the same for XGHAN.

Sunwoo said he won't release new mixtape songs cause the new company is taking all the credits for it.

 

Edited September 26, 20251 yr by Xalric