they still arguing while Rihanna still in the lead.

 

Rih > Katy

 

Taylor has no classics

1 hour ago, sasashite said:

Classics stay forever, not for a week.

Well yeah that’s why Rihanna’s hits are currently pulling huge numbers even though she’s not putting out new music or touring… or doing anything musically. Her catalog isn’t even available on Tik Tok, it’s all effortless. Her numbers 8 years after her last album are literally unparalleled 😭

3 hours ago, Raspberries said:

You thinking Taylor's 25 album tracks are the equivalent of Rihanna's collaborations with Calvin Harris, Kendrick Lamar, DJ Khaled/Bryson Tiller, Kanye, etc just goes to show the gap between these two girls  

Y’all are talking about features that aren’t even on Rihanna’s Spotify page…😭

 

Meanwhile she’s winning the poll by a landslide, swifties mass voting wasn’t enough this time 🥲

200 users said its Rihanna so. 

"It's all so effortless" claims istan4badgirlriri as he tracks how many views were accumulated on the 8 different Lift Me Up YouTube videos and how many Lift Me Up/Lift Me Up (Instrumental) alternate covers were sold overnight

 

In between that, trying repeatedly to invalidate the IFPI and bragging about ATRL poll results, it appears the little MUAs have truly lost it

Edited October 26, 20232 yr by Raspberries

Rihanna, definitely. 

21 hours ago, Maxxie said:

She has literally released 9 albums since Rihanna released ANTI, is currently on tour and has just released a movie.

 

Not many people above the age of 30 would be listening to Taylor Swift, you would hope.

 

The fact that Swifties compare the chart run of someone who's currently touring, released fivehundredmilliontenthousandsthreebillioneighthundred albums that she promoted as studio albums with singles and remixes and discounts and a movie in theaters to someone who hung it up half-a-decade ago and is still in the Top 10 of the most streamed females chart is just hilarious. 

6 minutes ago, JaXXXon said:

The fact that Swifties compare the chart run of someone who's currently touring, released fivehundredmilliontenthousandsthreebillioneighthundred albums that she promoted as studio albums with singles and remixes and discounts and a movie in theaters to someone who hung it up half-a-decade ago and is still in the Top 10 of the most streamed females chart is just hilarious. 

It is tiring. They are so delusional. Her deranged fans mass buying/streaming her oversupplied content doesn't add up in the real world. Most people I speak to don't understand the Taylor hype. She is just amazing at spamming and marketing. She does not belong up there with Madonna and Michael Jackson...

10 minutes ago, Maxxie said:

It is tiring. They are so delusional. Her deranged fans mass buying/streaming her oversupplied content doesn't add up in the real world. Most people I speak to don't understand the Taylor hype. She is just amazing at spamming and marketing. She does not belong up there with Madonna and Michael Jackson...

I just saw in the last page of the "MJ, Madonna thread" that a Swiftie (presumably) wrote, and I quote: "Taylor is more famous than Britney ever was". 

 

This is not even funny. It's concerning. The stats show a different picture in overall certifications and sales and all they can cling to is current stats from Spotify. What's also funny is that only Swifties say this but everyone else (especially the ones living outside of the US) can firmly say that Rihanna, Gaga, Adele and I would even add Beyoncé to the list are more famous to the GP there than Taylor Swift. 

Edited October 27, 20232 yr by JaXXXon

23 hours ago, Raspberries said:

Those Anti-Hero remixes didn't start coming out until November 3rd  That was the last day of tracking for that week

 

And no, those YouTube versions weren't available on AM/to purchase. But these sure were 

 

 

She will 100% catch her. Unfortunately for the Avon Lady, she will never catch Taylor in any other metric. And why are you talking about having babies as a drag  Taylor clearly does not want children at the moment and is focused on her music career since, ya know, she is a passionate musician

 

Rihanna spam-released singles during her run. She literally released nearly 35 singles from 2009-2013  For all your talking down on "spam releasing" your girl sure did a lot of it in her heyday. And still nobody bought the album or tickets to her tours. 

 

Taylor dropping alternative versions and going #1 (with a song that has peaked at #1 in every single metric already) is nothing compared to Rihanna dropping 15 versions of Lift Me Up on streaming platforms and digital outlets but only getting to #2 and failing to go top 10 on streaming  

 

Taylor has been "spamming" (if you call re-recording albums that are up to 13 years old spamming lol) but barely releasing singles. Red TV had 0 singles sent to radio services. Fearless TV had 0. Speak Now TV had 0. folklore and evermore each had 1 real single. Midnights had 3. No compare that to Rihanna releasing 6 from Rated R, 7 from Loud, 5 from Talk That Talk, 4 from Unapologetic and over 10 features within a 5 year period  

 

Yes, we know Rihanna's last album was ANTI. Has that album even sold half of 1989 yet by the way? I was told it yielded smash hits and is a defining album of the 2010s so surely it's sold a measly 50% of 1989? If not, then it surely hasn't already been passed by folklore (2020), right? And it sure as hell hasn't already been passed by Midnights (2022), right?! Surely not....

 

 

 

ATRL: Which hitmaker has the most classics?

 

 

Rihanna

 203 votes

The "Sexy Baby" Chanteuse 

 57 votes

 

 

 

 

 

Edited October 27, 20232 yr by ImsoLOUD

Well Taylor is the best selling digital artist in the US. Her hits sold better than Rihanna’s but Katy had the biggest (and least due to her small discography) 

The only problem is that she doesn’t have a global smash. The closest she got to that was Shake it off and it wasn’t as global as Katy/Adele/Gaga/Rihanna or even Beyonce’s biggest hits. 

Taylor has the most classics.

 

Rihanna had the most hits. 

 

Katy has the biggest hits. 

5 minutes ago, byzantium said:

Taylor has the most classics.

 

Rihanna had the most hits. 

 

Katy has the biggest hits. 

You never fail to be wrong when it comes to Taylor. You should get an award 

13 minutes ago, VioletsandRoses said:

Well Taylor is the best selling digital artist in the US. Her hits sold better than Rihanna’s but Katy had the biggest (and least due to her small discography) 

The only problem is that she doesn’t have a global smash. The closest she got to that was Shake it off and it wasn’t as global as Katy/Adele/Gaga/Rihanna or even Beyonce’s biggest hits. 

Yeah. Shake It Off and Blank Space is the closest Taylor got to a Poker Face, a Bad Romance and even a Shallow outside of America. I think she's in a Beyoncé-lane right now internationally where she doesn't have the hits to back it up but she has the acclaim and devoted fanbase.

 

On 10/26/2023 at 3:04 AM, Raspberries said:

Rihanna spam-released singles during her run. She literally released nearly 35 singles from 2009-2013  For all your talking down on "spam releasing" your girl sure did a lot of it in her heyday. And still nobody bought the album or tickets to her tours. 

 

Taylor dropping alternative versions and going #1 (with a song that has peaked at #1 in every single metric already) is nothing compared to Rihanna dropping 15 versions of Lift Me Up on streaming platforms and digital outlets but only getting to #2 and failing to go top 10 on streaming  

 

Taylor has been "spamming" (if you call re-recording albums that are up to 13 years old spamming lol) but barely releasing singles. Red TV had 0 singles sent to radio services. Fearless TV had 0. Speak Now TV had 0. folklore and evermore each had 1 real single. Midnights had 3. No compare that to Rihanna releasing 6 from Rated R, 7 from Loud, 5 from Talk That Talk, 4 from Unapologetic and over 10 features within a 5 year period  

 

 

 

Rihanna "spammed" because the digital era allowed artists to release more than one single and it was a normal thing. In the streaming era, Rihanna would release one-two singles only as well. 

 

Taylor spamming albums like she does inflates her sales and even her playlist reach more. What Rihanna did was go #1 on iTunes based on DEMAND, while going #1 on Spotify is based on like 50% demand, 30% playlists and 20% Spotify Radio. Rihanna's run is incredibly impressive as she had a chokehold on the GP in terms of singles. 

47 minutes ago, ImsoLOUD said:

 

 

ATRL: Which hitmaker has the most classics?

 

 

Rihanna

 203 votes

The "Sexy Baby" Chanteuse 

 57 votes

 

 

 

 

 

More bragging about ATRL polls  If only it were that easy for Rihanna to get a #1 around this time last year 

11 minutes ago, JaXXXon said:

Rihanna "spammed" because the digital era allowed artists to release more than one single and it was a normal thing. In the streaming era, Rihanna would release one-two singles only as well. 

 

Taylor spamming albums like she does inflates her sales and even her playlist reach more. What Rihanna did was go #1 on iTunes based on DEMAND, while going #1 on Spotify is based on like 50% demand, 30% playlists and 20% Spotify Radio. Rihanna's run is incredibly impressive as she had a chokehold on the GP in terms of singles. 

Taylor has more iTunes #1s than any other artist. And by a massive margin  

1 hour ago, JaXXXon said:

You never fail to be wrong when it comes to Taylor. You should get an award 

You must be under the false impression that your opinion has any legitimacy. 

1 hour ago, Raspberries said:

More bragging about ATRL polls  If only it were that easy for Rihanna to get a #1 around this time last year 

Update: 

 

ATRL: Which hitmaker has the most classics?

 

 

Rihanna

 205 (+2) votes

The "Sexy Baby" Chanteuse 

 57 votes (=/=)

2 #1 albums out of 8 attempts. But at least she's winning ATRL polls  

1 hour ago, Raspberries said:

2 #1 albums out of 8 attempts. But at least she's winning ATRL polls  

Y'all really have nothing left lol. Just cope

 

 

 

8 hours ago, Raspberries said:

I'm sure Rihanna herself didn't run to Luke. She didn't have the freedom to do that. I'm sure her team saw his streak and said "let's give it a go!" along with her usual 20 demos Stargate were passing along to various labels 

Maybe you're right, that Rih never approached Luke (good for her on that, and interesting that a person who has no freedom still managed to get all her masters while the other who had all the freedom couldn't and had to cry about it and they're still getting passed around like a blunt) and this wouldn't change the fact that Rihanna has more classics than Taylor. What next?

 

2 hours ago, Raspberries said:

2 #1 albums out of 8 attempts. But at least she's winning ATRL polls  

its easier to score #1 albums when you’re accumulating 70% of your units from the US. That’s what chartmasters said.

3 minutes ago, airplane said:

its easier to score #1 albums when you’re accumulating 70% of your units from the US. That’s what chartmasters said.

No, it isn't actually  That still doesn't change the fact that it took Rihanna 7 albums to get a #1, despite selling her album Rated R for the price of a stick of gum its first week  

1 minute ago, Raspberries said:

No, it isn't actually  That still doesn't change the fact that it took Rihanna 7 albums to get a #1, despite selling her album Rated R for the price of a stick of gum its first week  

Rihanna had non #1 peaking albums that ended up 6X-7X Platinum… and she did that without inflating her debut numbers with multiple variants of the same album… which is why her albums never scored -80% drops on Billboard in their second week. Go figure