48 minutes ago, Pluto2022 said:

 

 

 

29 minutes ago, WeFoundWill said:

ca we please not talk about inorganic mass viewing YT MVs when OMG has triple the playlist reach of Pink Venom at Its peak 

I doubt this is true, Pink Venom was a #1 hot shot debut on TTH, it was playlisted really well by Spotify 

2 minutes ago, Axel. said:

why are you lying? lol

 

Pink Venom (17 Sept, 2022) - 168,691,767

OMG (20 Feb, 2023) - 115,532,756

 

https://songstats.com/, you should try it! 

I’m afraid Twitter lied to me (shocking) 

glad we came to the conclusion that the stats are there and NewJeans Spotify, Apple Music and Korean services streams, YouTube views match their sales and vice versa! 

 

thank you for bringing that topic up! 

Anyways I can't believe all this havoc was created just because I was bringing up the fact that NewJennies' YT views are horrible compared to their Spotify streams, like it wasn't supposed to be dragged on for so long I swear  

Also I never claim that their Spotify streams were fake or anything, just that it was very weird 

Like it isn't nothing especially compared to the amount of horrible things and accusations y'all are writing about groups like BP, TWICE, ITZY, aespa, RV etc. in here daily  Some of y'all are truly bandwagoners I swear 

Edited February 20, 20233 yr by Pluto2022

Ah, usual users and their essays on NewJeans success. 

 

1. "almost none of their MV's passing 1M likes etc." 

 

NewJeans MVs that passed 1M likes: 
'Attention' Official MV - 1.4M likes

'Ditto' Official MV (side A) - 1.2M likes
'Hype Boy' Official MV (Performance ver.1) - 1M likes
'Cookie' Official MV - 1M likes
'OMG' Official MV - 1M likes

 

there are other videos within 600-800k range as well (Ditto Side B has 801k likes). they release a lot of stuff, so engagement is split, etc.

 

Attention - 2 MVs + 1 Special Performance Video
Hype Boy - 6 MVs 
Cookie - 1 MV
Hurt - 1 MV + 1 SPV
Ditto - 2 MVs + 2 SPV
OMG - 4 MVs + 1 SPV

 

2. "NewJeans are having atrocious and abhorrent YT views"

 

First, NewJeans does not use ads to inflate views. Period. 

 

Second, NewJeans has more YouTube Audio views than other 4th gen girl groups. This proves that people are here to listen to their music. 

 

NewJeans YouTube Audio views:

Hype Boy - 134M
Attention - 104M
Ditto - 57M + 19M = 76M (two versions: pre-release and single album version)
Cookie - 57M
OMG - 56M
Hurt - 20M

 

Third, You can check their YouTube Global, South Korea, Japan and US performances as charted views are ad-filtered organic views. Feel free to compare it to other 4th gen ggs. 

3.  Apple Music

 

NewJeans is longest charting girl group in Apple Music Global Top 10. Ditto (#9 now, peaked at #4) and OMG (#10, peaked at #8) still charting in Top 10, while Hype Boy is charting at #65.

 

Ditto - 46 days in Top 10
OMG - 22 days
Love Dive - 8 days
Sour Candy - 4 days
HYLT - 3 days

 

4. Spotify

 

Ditto on US/Global

1st day: #199 - 303,463; #57 - 1,961,126
2nd day: #82 - 505,541; #19 - 3,260,064

day before it was added on TTH (was added 18 days after release): # 34 - 527,159, #11 - 3,005,683

 

OMG on US/Global

1st day: #122 - 283,015; #47 - 1,744,366
2nd day: #59 - 405,891; #29 - 2,410,200

day before it was added on TTH (was added 39 days after release): #28 - 607,584; #17 - 2,998,542

 

I will not post Hype Boy stats to not embarrass anyone. A song released in August reached new peaks after 6 months and is still charting everywhere. You faves can only dream not to fall out of charts after 2 days of charting. Next time do your research paper well and do not come here to flaunt groundless stan twitter hot takes  

 

 

 

Edited February 21, 20233 yr by lily42

3 minutes ago, Pluto2022 said:

Like it isn't nothing especially compared to the amount of horrible things and accusations y'all are writing about groups like BP, TWICE, ITZY, aespa, RV etc. in here daily  Some of y'all are truly bandwagoners I swear 

it's cool to see Le Sserafim booked right now

I think at first not many companies wanted to approach them due to their reputation after the Garamgate

it seems that now they're warming up as they should

4 minutes ago, lily42 said:

Ah, usual users and their essays on NewJeans success. 

 

1. "almost none of their MV's passing 1M likes etc." 

 

NewJeans MVs that passed 1M likes: 
'Attention' Official MV - 1.4M likes
'Hype Boy' Official MV (Performance ver.1) - 1M likes
'Cookie' Official MV - 1M likes
'OMG' Official MV - 1M likes

 

there are other videos within 600-800k range as well (Ditto Side B has 801k likes). they release a lot of stuff, so engagement is split, etc.

 

Attention - 2 MVs + 1 Special Performance Video
Hype Boy - 6 MVs 
Cookie - 1 MV
Hurt - 1 MV + 1 SPV
Ditto - 2 MVs + 2 SPV
OMG - 4 MVs + 1 SPV

 

2. "NewJeans are having atrocious and abhorrent YT views"

 

First, NewJeans does not use ads to inflate views. Period. 

 

Second, NewJeans has more YouTube Audio views than other 4th gen girl groups. This proves that people are here to listen to their music. 

 

NewJeans YouTube Audio views:

Hype Boy - 134M
Attention - 104M
Ditto - 57M + 19M = 76M (two versions: pre-release and single album version)
Cookie - 57M
OMG - 56M
Hurt - 20M

 

Third, You can check their YouTube Global, South Korea, Japan and US performances as charted views are ad-filtered organic views. Feel free to compare it to other 4th gen ggs. 

3.  Spotify and YouTube aside,

 

NewJeans is longest charting girl group in Apple Music Global Top 10. Ditto (#9 now, peaked at #4) and OMG (#10, peaked at #8) still charting in Top 10, while Hype Boy is charting at #65.

 

Ditto - 46 days in Top 10
OMG - 22 days
Love Dive - 8 days
Sour Candy - 4 days
HYLT - 3 days

 

4. Spotify

 

Ditto on US/Global

1st day: #199 - 303,463; #57 - 1,961,126
2nd day: #82 - 505,541; #19 - 3,260,064

day before it was added on TTH (was added 18 days after release): # 34 - 527,159, #11 - 3,005,683

 

OMG on US/Global

1st day: #122 - 283,015; #47 - 1,744,366
2nd day: #59 - 405,891; #29 - 2,410,200

day before it was added on TTH (was added 39 days after release): #28 - 607,584; #17 - 2,998,542

 

I will not post Hype Boy stats to not embarrass anyone. A song released in August reached new peaks after 6 months and is still charting everywhere. You faves can only dream not to fall out of charts after 2 days of charting. Next time do your research paper well and do not come here to flaunt groundless stan twitter hot takes  

 

 

 

thanks for all the receipts

 

 they just keep winning

 

 

one of the best kpop albums ever 

 

sad that the physical album has such tragic packaging

Hold on, the budget, serving MCU 

Why are we discussing NJ's success so much?? They are huge, they are the kpop moment, and they deserve it I'm not a stan but their concept, choreography and music has been nothing but great and refreshing. 

1 minute ago, MusicFan98 said:

Why are we discussing NJ's success so much?? They are huge, they are the kpop moment, and they deserve it I'm not a stan but their concept, choreography and music has been nothing but great and refreshing. 

why shouldn’t we? we can discuss hags and acts that have almost nothing going on for them but shouldn’t talk about the most exciting and promising group since BP? in a kpop thread?  

 

where was this energy when aespa performed on Coachella, got 1.5m preorders and Sheeps kept going for pages how they are on top of the world, bigger than BP and so on? 

Not the excel graphics just because someone says that they have low YT views compared to others GG

Edited February 20, 20233 yr by DelRey

16 minutes ago, Hazy said:

why shouldn’t we? we can discuss hags and acts that have almost nothing going on for them but shouldn’t talk about the most exciting and promising group since BP? in a kpop thread?  

 

where was this energy when aespa performed on Coachella, got 1.5m preorders and Sheeps kept going for pages how they are on top of the world, bigger than BP and so on? 

You are getting me wrong king, what I mean, is that there shouldn't be constant fights about why or how they are so successful, there's been pages and pages of people researching their youtube views, the likes of the MVs, their spotify playlist rrach, the BP comparisions, all of it so unnecessary.

 

Also, you all need to get help, because you want to relate anything to SM sheeps, like, SM sheeps do this, SM sheeps do that, if SM sheeps did it, we can do it tooIt's giving mental illness, omg, SM is on the verge of dissapearing let them die at peace.

3 minutes ago, MusicFan98 said:

You are getting me wrong king, what I mean, is that there shouldn't be constant fights about why or how they are so successful, there's been pages and pages of people researching their youtube views, the likes of the MVs, their spotify playlist rrach, the BP comparisions, all of it so unnecessary.

 

Also, you all need to get help, because you want to relate anything to SM sheeps, like, SM sheeps do this, SM sheeps do that, if SM sheeps did it, we can do it tooIt's giving mental illness, omg, SM is on the verge of dissapearing let them die at peace.

I mean, you’re not wrong, even in this thread, it feels like Sheeps’ presence is on an all time low these days 

 

SM truly managed to do everything wrong… and they had world in the palm of their hands just a year ago with aespa, GOT, NCT Dream, RV and Taeyeon! 

48 minutes ago, Pluto2022 said:

Hold on, the budget, serving MCU 

wow they look amazing!

 

the graphics for their SMCU episodes are always topnotch!

we now need that budget for the comeback MV

2 minutes ago, ItsJustMe. said:

we now need that budget for the comeback MV

Knowing SM, all the money will probably go to the graphics department for naevis, her solo debut.

3 minutes ago, Zack said:

Knowing SM, all the money will probably go to the graphics department for naevis, her solo debut.

Speaking of which, she's not on that release calendar that was shared today. I wonder if they locked the good sis on the dungeon.

7 minutes ago, Zack said:

Knowing SM, all the money will probably go to the graphics department for naevis, her solo debut.

well the good sis needs it

 

we need her to look like this 

 

 

and not this 

 

NewJeans does seem a bit faceless, and the members all look pretty similar. 

theyre still very young tho and it would be awkward to have a 15 year old plastered everywhere tbf

Just now, mathekr said:

Speaking of which, she's not on that release calendar that was shared today. I wonder if they locked the good sis on the dungeon.

I saw that too. Though she was on an earlier presentation along with SMNGG who are also absent from the list but previously said to be debuting soon. The list revealed today also said it wasn't final and may change...so who knows.

 

I'm sure we'll learn more after SMCU ep.3. She was teased at the end of aespa's concert teaser/vlog thing...and there was also this tweet recently too...

 

3 minutes ago, ItsJustMe. said:

well the good sis needs it

 

we need her to look like this 

 

 

and not this 

 

Welp. For her sake, let's hope HYBE doesn't cut the budget

naevis is about to END Mave and their K/DA cover 

my naevis we love youuuuuuuuu

44 minutes ago, DelRey said:

Not the excel graphics just because someone says that they have low YT views compared to others GG

Thank you! 

 

17 minutes ago, Zack said:

Welp. For her sake, let's hope HYBE doesn't cut the budget

Let’s hope that HYBE doesn’t cut Naevis completely first 

Edited February 20, 20233 yr by Pluto2022