I hope it's NCT Japan

it's been long overdue

 

Companies can be so boring sometimes Like, imagine planning a musical debut for an AI entity Just give us a new BoA or try it with a duo damn you are ***** JYP, why give us an aespa leftover when you can fund a new and actually succesdful Co-ed group 

Dead at the armys all over TikTok and Twitter that are now calling out all the misinformation and the purposefully misleading statistics in the bye oppa video since SM tried to come for their fave’s agency. They really don’t play with the receipts . 

1 hour ago, Flomik said:

I hope it's NCT Japan

it's been long overdue

 

imagine how tired we are... this is why another company needs to step in. 

2 hours ago, ItsJustMe. said:

well the good sis needs it

 

we need her to look like this 

 

 

and not this 

 

 

 

The way the graphics in the episodes goes from expensive to cheap 2d to cheap 3d  Like girl keep it consistent. Make a 2d comic series if you don't want to spend the coin on a video of 3d graphics

4th gen ggs playlisting

 

 

aespa playlisting peaks:

 

BM - 19M

Next Level - 17M

Savage - 29M

Girls - 29M

 

 

IVE playlisting peaks:

 

Eleven - 30M

Love Dive - 44M

After Like - 54M

 

 

LSRFM Playlisting peaks:

 

Fearless - 32M

Antifragile - 31M

 

 

Newjeans playlisting peaks:

 

Attention - 72M

Hype Boy - 33M

Ditto - 120M

OMG - 118M

 

 

 

 

SM doing nothing for aespa   NewJeans

 

LSRFM doing really well without heavy playlisting. I wonder how they'd do with NJ level playlisting

Edited February 20, 20233 yr by Gaia

I think that people tend to forget that being on top50 on the charts is counted as a playlist reach too?  

 

is it payola now that NewJeans got there before they were even added to TTH? something some groups never achieved, mind you… not to say staying there for days or months 

2 minutes ago, Hazy said:

is it payola now that NewJeans got there before they were even added to TTH? something some groups never achieved, mind you… not to say staying there for days or months 

It's multi-level marketing.  Not sure what's so difficult about this.  It's how kpop became a thing without anyone knowing about it.

 

also that NewJeans narrative of them being flops on yt, when they are almost at 1.2B views there (7 months) 

 

for reference (last 12 months)

G Idle 1.35B

aespa 960M

itzy 1.2B 

 

and for some reason it’s impossible to check it for IVE and Le Sserafim 

 

truly embarassing to come for them in the yt department 

Edited February 20, 20233 yr by Hazy

14 minutes ago, Gaia said:

4th gen ggs playlisting

 

 

aespa playlisting peaks:

 

BM - 19M

Next Level - 17M

Savage - 29M

Girls - 29M

 

 

IVE playlisting peaks:

 

Eleven - 30M

Love Dive - 44M

After Like - 54M

 

 

LSRFM Playlisting peaks:

 

Fearless - 32M

Antifragile - 31M

 

 

Newjeans playlisting peaks:

 

Attention - 72M

Hype Boy - 33M

Ditto - 120M

OMG - 118M

 

 

 

 

SM doing nothing for aespa   NewJeans

 

LSRFM doing really well without heavy playlisting. I wonder how they'd do with NJ level playlisting

And the fact Warner was in charge of Girls too  but it was for the best cause if Girls actually smashed then SM would never get humbled like they did 

4 minutes ago, Hazy said:

also that NewJeans narrative of them being flops on yt, when they are almost at 1.2B views there (7 months) 

 

for reference (last 12 months)

G Idle 1.35B

aespa 960M

itzy 1.2B 

 

and for some reason it’s impossible to check it for IVE and Le Sserafim 

 

truly embarassing to come for them in the yt department 

 

 

 

 

50% of the videos on aespa channel are literally shorts and Newjeans are about to surpass the amount of videos aespa uploaded in just 7 months 

2 hours ago, getinthezone said:

NewJeans does seem a bit faceless, and the members all look pretty similar. 

theyre still very young tho and it would be awkward to have a 15 year old plastered everywhere tbf

 The only members that look similar are Hyein and Haerin

 

Minji, Hanni and Danielle look completely different 

9 minutes ago, Hazy said:

 

is it payola now that NewJeans got there before they were even added to TTH? something some groups never achieved, mind you… not to say staying there for days or months 

LD, After like,Antifragile also achieved big Spotify streams and were even bigger than Attention and yet they didn’t get a spot on TTH. 

It’s crazy how after like was in a huge/viral meme but they never leaned into it  isn’t that what all companies pray for lol. 

1 minute ago, sunmimi imfurst said:

It’s crazy how after like was in a huge/viral meme but they never leaned into it  isn’t that what all companies pray for lol. 

It’s not the first time, Dear Cupid was VIRAL on tik tok and insta and starshit did nothing 

40 minutes ago, Gaia said:

4th gen ggs playlisting

 

 

aespa playlisting peaks:

 

BM - 19M

Next Level - 17M

Savage - 29M

Girls - 29M

 

 

IVE playlisting peaks:

 

Eleven - 30M

Love Dive - 44M

After Like - 54M

 

 

LSRFM Playlisting peaks:

 

Fearless - 32M

Antifragile - 31M

 

 

Newjeans playlisting peaks:

 

Attention - 72M

Hype Boy - 33M

Ditto - 120M

OMG - 118M

 

 

 

 

SM doing nothing for aespa   NewJeans

 

LSRFM doing really well without heavy playlisting. I wonder how they'd do with NJ level playlisting

The reason why LSFR have low playlisting is because they didn’t enter Spotify top 50 

 

also anti fragile had 62M 

Edited February 20, 20233 yr by Dialamba

fearless - same day as fraud young woong

antifragile - same day as gidle

 

the next release must be same day as ive 

Just now, Adama said:

LD, After like,Antifragile also achieved big Spotify streams and were even bigger than Attention and yet they didn’t get a spot on TTH. 

I was clearly speaking about Ditto and OMG. Attention got slight push but it didn’t really change anything at that time. 

 

Then Hype Boy started getting more streams after they were gone from TTH. Then Ditto came with their biggest numbers yet and got added to the playlist long after the release. it was in the #50 all the time without it. 

2 minutes ago, Dialamba said:

The reason why LSFR have low playlisting is because they didn’t enter Spotify top 50 

 

also anti fragile had 62M 

they actually did enter top 50

it was #50 though but still 

 

 

3 minutes ago, Adama said:

It’s not the first time, Dear Cupid was VIRAL on tik tok and insta and starshit did nothing 

Don’t piss me off. SS just can’t handle a big group. It’s painful to watch 

4 minutes ago, Narima said:

fearless - same day as fraud young woong

antifragile - same day as gidle

 

the next release must be same day as ive 

The way this is a possible move.

 

2 minutes ago, Dialamba said:

The reason why LSFR have low playlisting is because they didn’t enter Spotify top 50 

 

also anti fragile had 62M 

You mean at their debut? 
Bc Antifragile peaked at #50 on Spotify global 

 

Just now, Narima said:

fearless - same day as fraud young woong

antifragile - same day as gidle

 

the next release must be same day as ive 

Honestly nothing will be ever worst than IVE coming back the same day as big bong 

 

1 minute ago, Dialamba said:

Don’t piss me off. SS just can’t handle a big group. It’s painful to watch 

the fact that even my friends were using the dear Cupid song . A real missed opportunity 

 

4 minutes ago, Hazy said:

I was clearly speaking about Ditto and OMG. Attention got slight push but it didn’t really change anything at that time. 

 

Then Hype Boy started getting more streams after they were gone from TTH. Then Ditto came with their biggest numbers yet and got added to the playlist long after the release. it was in the #50 all the time without it. 

the slight push being a TTH spot? When no others k acts except BTS and BP were able to get one? Even if it didn’t do anything for Attention, Imagine LD, After like or Antifragile getting a spot too,It would have made a difference bc these songs were already performing very well. 

There's absolutely nothing wrong with streaming playlisting it's just hilarious to me people were saying youtube was this manipulatable metric as if streaming sites aren't the exact same. I wish my faves were plastered everywhere on spotify to increase their reach  Nothing wrong with it, but denying it's impact on songs performance is the same as saying ads don't make a difference in YT views.

 

SM trying so hard to push their groups in the west but failing to payola them onto streaming playlists just shows they're out of touch. Going on some random morning show with 500k viewers of soccer moms isn't going to do as much as putting on NMF, TTH, etc.

 

Hybe is doing it right, their stans just need to stop acting like its completely organic and more impressive than youtube   

Just now, Adama said:

the slight push being a TTH spot? When no others k acts except BTS and BP were able to get one? Even if it didn’t do anything for Attention, Imagine LD, After like or Antifragile getting a spot too,It would have made a difference bc these songs were already performing very well. 

so did Attention as a debut song? also followed by Hype Boy? they were charting side by side for a long time 

 

also, LD, AL and Antifragile are comeback songs, of course they would get bigger numbers first day than debut of the group with unknown members - yet they scored two smashes

 

and it’s not their fault they were doing good enough on their own without help in the first place, to get that extra push after some time after release 

 

I remember people here saying that their yt views were bad (no ads), spotify upon debut meh (after being on yt for 2 weeks, no playlisting, added late on kpop playlists) - and then they were able to climb to 1m plays per song and staying stable there to get that TTH spot (35th place or something) and now Hype Boy just achieved all time high, 6 months in 

 

payola 

7 minutes ago, Gaia said:

There's absolutely nothing wrong with streaming playlisting it's just hilarious to me people were saying youtube was this manipulatable metric as if streaming sites aren't the exact same. I wish my faves were plastered everywhere on spotify to increase their reach  Nothing wrong with it, but denying it's impact on songs performance is the same as saying ads don't make a difference in YT views.

 

SM trying so hard to push their groups in the west but failing to payola them onto streaming playlists just shows they're out of touch. Going on some random morning show with 500k viewers of soccer moms isn't going to do as much as putting on NMF, TTH, etc.

 

Hybe is doing it right, their stans just need to stop acting like its completely organic and more impressive than youtube   

ads are just added to the total count under the video - yt filters numbers too and it’s possible on the charts to see actual views 

 

Spotify filters numbers too, to catch bots or mindless stans - in fact both yt and spotify have playlists, trending pages and charts

 

why is playlist reach in the same category as ads then?