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K-Pop Thread: 2023 Archive

This is part 1 of the K-Pop Thread: 2023 Archive discussion.

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if yena joined everglow and they were considered a post izone group :deadbanana4:

 

that le sserafim, ive, everglow trinity has such a nice ring to it :gaygacat5:

 

 

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    some of the new members not giving new at all 

 

this song deserved Grammys, Oscars, Tonys, Emmys, Nobel Prizes and Kennedy Center Honours

 

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I'm seeing the references for their previous eras on this MV Teaser

 

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I don't like any of the two LSF singles, they fell hard for me.

 

The performances are great but the music is not giving this time :katie:

14 minutes ago, WeFoundWill said:

SKZ? Listenable? :next:

They at least have God Menu

and are listenable compared to the other active JYP groups :dancehall2:

Not me in here finding people complaining about SKZ producing *gasp* noise music?!? Isn’t watar wet, isn't the sky blue? Y'all already know that pots and pans are an NCT/SKZ staple at this point! Why did Y'all expect a switch up at this stage in the game? 

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20 minutes ago, Magdalene said:

if yena joined everglow and they were considered a post izone group :deadbanana4:

 

that le sserafim, ive, everglow trinity has such a nice ring to it :gaygacat5:

 

 

EVERGLOW will never be big in sales or in Korea sadly 

SKZ is well-known for having a signature pots-and-pans noise 

 

At lease we can acknowledge they are consistent with their craft lmao

5 minutes ago, CandyCoatedClouds said:

Not me in here finding people complaining about SKZ producing *gasp* noise music?!? Isn’t watar wet, isn't the sky blue? Y'all already know that pots and pans are an NCT/SKZ staple at this point! Why did Y'all expect a switch up at this stage in the game? 

If It ain't broke, don't fix it. 

 

Stray Kids built huge success with this sound and every era they make a new big wave of fans to get into them. There's no point for switching up. And yes, I don't what people are expecting 

 

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1 hour ago, Pluto2022 said:

 

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I'm just gonna wait for the entire song to be released before I judge

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they're in their you're losing me.mp3 era

 

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3 minutes ago, Mitsuki said:

If It ain't broke, don't fix it. 

 

Stray Kids built huge success with this sound and every era they make a new big wave of fans to get into them. There's no point for switching up. And yes, I don't what people are expecting 

 

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Right? Like people couldn't have expected we'd get something that sounded like B1A4 or Ikon style music. They've found their style so they're sticking to it.

The fact that Boynextdoor group officially debuts in less than a day but NO ONE cares about it :deadbanana4: Zero hype

 

It seems like ZEROGAYSWON won the battle

8 minutes ago, Vrx. said:

EVERGLOW will never be big in sales or in Korea sadly 

Its possible i mean yena is kinda smashing under the same company, kakao is basically chinese company too... Its just that everglow was mismanaged from the beginning, they ignored aisha and onda who are actually the most interesting member and focusing more with mia, seyeon and yiren.. While those three are talented they didnt command the stage loke they lack charisma.. Eu is a nonfactor her rap/vocal is terrible not even autotune can save her voice :rip:

I think the final nail in EVERGLOW's coffin in Korea was the Yiren bowing scandal that had to do with Chinese culture. That was the breaking point for them.

 

XG is in the same boat but their strategy is smarter - immediately pandering to the West with English-only songs with a Hip hop - RnB style + occassional appearances at Kpop shows going viral here and there

2 weeks addicted to Queencard. My Last.fm is almost banning me due to spam 

 

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8 minutes ago, Pinter said:

Its possible i mean yena is kinda smashing under the same company, kakao is basically chinese company too... Its just that everglow was mismanaged from the beginning, they ignored aisha and onda who are actually the most interesting member and focusing more with mia, seyeon and yiren.. While those three are talented they didnt command the stage loke they lack charisma.. Eu is a nonfactor her rap/vocal is terrible not even autotune can save her voice :rip:

I don't even think it’s the company I legit think it’s the material and the way they market. They have like 0 decent CFs, changed their leader to be Sihyeon, and cannot choose the right members for the lines. It is just sort of hopeless for them which is a shame 

Queendom no, Queencard 

But Red Velvet's Queendom is a bop too

1 hour ago, Pluto2022 said:

It’s funny you say that cause SKZ literally sounds more like a YG group than a JYP group, like they would literally fit perfectly in YG. 
 

Which shows that YOU are the one pretending that everything from YG is good

 

That doesn't sound like YG to me. 

Don't know why that one user has to be so bitter, yes, SVT are very big, but let's stop acting as if they are this unrivaled group in the 3rd gen except by BTS or EXO lol, they are right on NCT's league lol.

26 minutes ago, Flomik said:

I think the final nail in EVERGLOW's coffin in Korea was the Yiren bowing scandal that had to do with Chinese culture. That was the breaking point for them.

 

XG is in the same boat but their strategy is smarter - immediately pandering to the West with English-only songs with a Hip hop - RnB style + occassional appearances at Kpop shows going viral here and there

Thing is that they are still trying to appeal to the East. They need to just go full-on western appeal a la LA DI DA 

All we care is that Changbin looks HOT in the comeback! As long as that is given to us we are FINE! Hope he bends over a few times

 

 

Stray Mids vs NOISENEXTDOOR for worst song of the year ahhhh :duca: 

Adverglow had their momentum at debut, Bon Bon Chocolat was shaping up good for them, it's even their biggest song in the US. 

And the fact that they have Hush and You Don't Know Me (their B-Side) doing the same numbers than Adios and Dun Dun Dun in the US.

 

And worst is their biggest albums are the albums that were supported by La Di Da and First.

 

Basically the song that introduced them Bon Bon Chocolat generated quite the buzz and attention around them. 

 

But the songs that should have created and growing their fanbase (aka Adios and Dun Dun Dun) well the company spent more time buying ads and making people they were bigger than they were. I mean remember at one point Everglow was top 5 of the most viewed GG on YouTube (which was 80% generated by ads) yet those views didn't translate on their sales. 

 

And the songs that should have been the songs that start their peak and glory (La Di Da and First) well because the fanbase wasn't created, and they had 0 gp appeal so they couldn't book cf that were interesting. 

 

And the worst part is they don't even have a Chinese fanbase even though they had a Chinese active member over there.

I mean You're was blocked the first day of Release by BP and ended #2 on the first day, by the end of the first week she was #7 daily and #13 weekly by the following week she was N/A.

pots and pans skz >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whatever they were doing in case 123

One thing that also hurt EVERGLOW was the infamous Mia payola, since she was eating up 98 % of the lines, screen time, center, dance breaks etc. and people were just tired and wasn't here for that which the company just simply didn't understand. Like I have never in my life seen a Kpop group where 1 member is favored as much as Mia :skull: In case y'all didn't know, EVERGLOW has the worst line distribution in 4th gen :rip:

 

Onda is the real star, but the company just keeps paying her dust!

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