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K-Pop Thread: 2023 Archive

This is part 1 of the K-Pop Thread: 2023 Archive discussion.

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Vocal ranking between the top 7 4th gen ggs: aespa - IVE - LE SSERAFIM - NewJeans - GIDLE - ITZY - NMIXX

 

The actual and objective ranking should look something like this:

  1. Lily 
  2. Haewon
  3. Ningning
  4. Winter
  5. Sullyoon
  6. Miyeon
  7. Yunjin
  8. Kyujin
  9. Karina
  10. Liz
  11. Giselle
  12. Jiwoo
  13. Bae
  14. Yuqi
  15. Hanni
  16. Danielle
  17. Minnie
  18. Hyein
  19. Lia
  20. Chaewon
  21. Haerin
  22. Yujin
  23. Leseeo
  24. Yeji
  25. Chaeryeong
  26. Rei
  27. Wonyoung
  28. Minji
  29. Yuna
  30. Kazuha
  31. Eunchae
  32. Gaeul
  33. Soyeon
  34. Shuhua
  35. Sakura
  36. Ryujin

 

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the meltdowns and conspiracies over two people dating :deadbanana4: the mental gymnastics :hippo:I just don't get the parasocial aspect of K-pop. I like the music to listen to but the fan culture is a kii :swan:

14 hours ago, Blueberry Kisses said:

I got curious and went to find the live of Welcome to My World and not the thread title being a lie :rip: They're fully lip-syncing.

 

 

I thought the same but didn't wanna get dragged :skull: also NingNing looks just like Hyunjin in the thumbnail. They sang spicy live today though. I'm glad aespa, NMIXX and Baemon (so I've heard cuz I haven't checked them out yet) are turning things around for 4th gen group vocals.

2 minutes ago, VelvetCrush said:

I thought the same but didn't wanna get dragged :skull: also NingNing looks just like Hyunjin in the thumbnail. They sang spicy live today though. I'm glad aespa, NMIXX and Baemon (so I've heard cuz I haven't checked them out yet) are turning things around for 4th gen group vocals.

They did WTMW live. The fancam sounds noticeably different from the broadcast (which I'm assuming was dubbed/pitch-corrected).

 

 

G-IDLE is like the Mamamoo of 4th gen tbh. Hits after hits but doesn't seem to have a very dedicated fanbase which gonna support them in a long way.

 

Like remember how Yes I Am and As If It's Your Last being released on the same day and the former used to stomp the latter on all charts? :cm:

I just know that 1/3, OEC, and yyxy are about to be the holy trinity of the 5th gen :gaycatney2:

5 minutes ago, Magdalene said:

I just know that 1/3, OEC, and yyxy are about to be the holy trinity of the 5th gen :gaycatney2:

How can they be the 5th gen trinity when those sub units debuted at the end of 3rd gen and were literally the first 4th gen groups ????? :skull:

 

Edited by Pluto2022

5 minutes ago, Rhythm said:

They did WTMW live. The fancam sounds noticeably different from the broadcast (which I'm assuming was dubbed/pitch-corrected).

 

 

I personally don't consider performances with heavy post editing in vocals live cuz it's almost the same thing that's done to pre-recorded vocals and still misleading to how the original performance was but I understand that many people do so it's a difference of opinion. Sure, the fancam is live but I still wish we could hear raw vocals in the same quality as the broadcast.

Non-subjective 4th gen rankings (based on their latest releases)

 

ALBUM SALES

1. aespa

(gap)

2. IVE

3. LSRF

4. NewJeans

5. G-IDLE

6. ITZY

7. NMIXX

 

DOMESTIC CHARTS

1. IVE

2. NewJeans

(gap)

3. LSRF

4. aespa / G-IDLE

(massive gap)

6. NMIXX

7. ITZY

 

SPOTIFY STREAMS

1. NewJeans

(gap)

2. IVE / LSRF

4. G-IDLE

5. aespa

6. ITZY

7. NMIXX

 

ITZY truly fell off on all metrics :skull: 

5 minutes ago, Pluto2022 said:

How can they be the 5th gen trinity when those sub units debuted at the end of 3rd gen and were literally the first 4th gen groups ????? :skull:

 

okay so queens of the 3rd, 4th, AND 5th gen :bird: like they’re too powerful im sorry

Yunjin vocals are so overrated, the girl sounds not that good in their encores and she is not even dancing.

1 hour ago, BigBangStan said:

 

male Izone let’s goooooo :clap3:

 

glad they’re gonna do something different from the trendy relatable y2k concept

1 hour ago, Dialamba said:

Liz outsings all of them expect Aespa and NMIXX and why we pretend Stayc doesn’t exist when they have no vocal hole. 

Stayc definitely has a vocal hole lol

24 minutes ago, Rhythm said:

They did WTMW live. The fancam sounds noticeably different from the broadcast (which I'm assuming was dubbed/pitch-corrected).

 

 

yeah they edited the broadcast version as usual

but the girls did sing

2 hours ago, BigBangStan said:

 

this looks so low budget and why is the highest quality 480p :redface:

 

BOOT

Just now, playboi said:

this looks so low budget and why is the highest quality 480p :redface:

 

BOOT

Because this is a fake channel with 860 subscribers girl 

 

playboi

6 minutes ago, playboi said:

this looks so low budget and why is the highest quality 480p :redface:

 

BOOT

Here is the official one  :cm:

 

 

33 minutes ago, Sept said:

Non-subjective 4th gen rankings (based on their latest releases)

 

ALBUM SALES

1. aespa

(gap)

2. IVE

3. LSRF

4. NewJeans

5. G-IDLE

6. ITZY

7. NMIXX

 

DOMESTIC CHARTS

1. IVE

2. NewJeans

(gap)

3. LSRF

4. aespa / G-IDLE

(massive gap)

6. NMIXX

7. ITZY

 

SPOTIFY STREAMS

1. NewJeans

(gap)

2. IVE / LSRF

4. G-IDLE

5. aespa

6. ITZY

7. NMIXX

 

ITZY truly fell off on all metrics :skull: 

I will never understand why aespa stans think it is fair to compare their physical sales to newjeans or ive sales when they debuted in 2020. It is like comparing stray kids/txt last albums sales to ZB1 first album. 

11 minutes ago, LuneMon said:

I will never understand why aespa stans think it is fair to compare their physical sales to newjeans or ive sales when they debuted in 2020. It is like comparing stray kids/txt last albums sales to ZB1 first album. 

Ive only debuted one year later than Aespa please :skull: With that logic we should never compare the 3rd gen groups either cuz RV debuted 2 years earlier than BP.

 

And IVE had had 4 physical releases so far compared to aespa's 3. And we see from all the groups that their sales increased from a release to the next one

49 minutes ago, Sept said:

Non-subjective 4th gen rankings (based on their latest releases)

 

ALBUM SALES

1. aespa

(gap)

2. IVE

3. LSRF

4. NewJeans

5. G-IDLE

6. ITZY

7. NMIXX

 

DOMESTIC CHARTS

1. IVE

2. NewJeans

(gap)

3. LSRF

4. aespa / G-IDLE

(massive gap)

6. NMIXX

7. ITZY

 

SPOTIFY STREAMS

1. NewJeans

(gap)

2. IVE / LSRF

4. G-IDLE

5. aespa

6. ITZY

7. NMIXX

 

ITZY truly fell off on all metrics :skull: 

Tbf, ITZY are the only group left who haven't had a comeback this year yet, so let's see how they will hold up with the rest with their upcoming comeback later this year. They will probably do better than Cheshire btw

12 minutes ago, LuneMon said:

I will never understand why aespa stans think it is fair to compare their physical sales to newjeans or ive sales when they debuted in 2020. It is like comparing stray kids/txt last albums sales to ZB1 first album. 

Loving your math king, Aespa got 0 physical releases until late 2021 just around Ive's debut, while SK debuted in 2018 and ZB1 in 2023, like you notice the gap right?

18 minutes ago, LuneMon said:

I will never understand why aespa stans think it is fair to compare their physical sales to newjeans or ive sales when they debuted in 2020. It is like comparing stray kids/txt last albums sales to ZB1 first album. 

Well ZB1 stans are already comparing ZB1 to SKZ and TXT, and claiming that ZB1 will end SKZ & TXT :psyduck: 

Edited by Pluto2022

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