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K-Pop Thread: 2023 Archive

This is part 1 of the K-Pop Thread: 2023 Archive discussion.

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I can't believe I didn't think about this earlier, but I feel like this is what will happen with the whole BABYMONSTER elimination thing: they will "eliminate" a girl or two, but then they will continue evaluations and YG will go "the group feels incomplete now" and bring them back, so they will debut as 7 in the end.

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    some of the new members not giving new at all 

Kpop feels pretty reliant on TikTok these days. I don’t think a lot of recent songs would have blown up the way they did without it. I wonder what’ll happen if it gets banned. FIFTYFIFTY updating their resumes as we speak :chick3:

59 minutes ago, MingYouToo said:

lmfao ur even lowballing them.

 

The original 52 dates announced for BORN PINK had estimated projections of 200-250M, now the recent Foro Sol, Stade de France, rumored Wembley + US stadium dates and the unsaid but obvious S.K. stadium dates aren't part of these projections.

 

BORN PINK will easily cross the 200M USD threshold, and if YG really wanted, they could blow BTS out of the water revenue wise, they're at the point where even if BTS is miles bigger than them, they have enough global power to keep up with touring.

 

BLACKPINK is easily on Taylor, Beyonce, Pink and Madonna levels of touring power globally now, especially since they're still on their 7th year. Taylor, Bey and Pink in their 7th years barely cracked 150M with twice the dates :jonny5:

Because of inflation and there tour attendances were also bigger than Blackpink's.

18 minutes ago, Ghiles said:

Best 4th gen b-side

 

 

it’s not even their best b side lol 

 



 

 

 

10 minutes ago, Butters said:

Kpop feels pretty reliant on TikTok these days. I don’t think a lot of recent songs would have blown up the way they did without it. I wonder what’ll happen if it gets banned. FIFTYFIFTY updating their resumes as we speak :chick3:

American are so annoying why do they want to ban Tik tok so bad :deadbanana4:

3 minutes ago, Adama said:

American are so annoying why do they want to ban Tik tok so bad :deadbanana4:

They mad that a Chinese-owned app is stomping on other social media apps rn. :dies: 

Finally listened to the NMIXX ep and it's pretty cute tbh. Besides the first and last song it's pretty solid, playful R&B/pop that reminds me of early RV...

 

I LOVE Sullyoon's voice, she's a good singer and I love the deeper tones. Especially in the My Gosh prechorus she sings :clap3:

5 minutes ago, Baby Judas said:

They mad that a Chinese-owned app is stomping on other social media apps rn. :dies: 

Maybe if Twitter owner was sane and Insta acted like a Photography app instead of whatever they are doing maybe it wouldn’t be the case :cm:.

 

Also why Koreans aren’t streaming Cupid too!! 

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13 minutes ago, Adama said:

American are so annoying why do they want to ban Tik tok so bad :deadbanana4:

because why not

tiktok is finally getting banned which means no groups blowing up with no talent, companies are gonna have to get creative again and also no more funded anti-aespa campaign forced onto the masses :jonny5: lots of groups need to start thinking about finding new jobs now 

 

59 minutes ago, lilawd said:

You are very much underestimating what BTS could do if they had a tour rn. (I will say.. their reunion tour when they have one is gonna be damn insane) 

a few things about your post. 

I doubt BP will do a Korean Stadium date for two reasons. 1. They only just played KSPO dome, they'll probably do gocheok sky dome next. 2. the Olympic stadium that most play is going under renovations for the next 3 years so they quite literally can't play it. 

 

Also comparing 2018-2019 BTS to 2022-2023 BP is just funny af to do.

 

Like the PTD in US dates from Vegas and LA last year (ie 8 dates) did almost $100M alone. That is 8 dates... meaning BTS could likely do $200M from just a North American Tour. 

 

Also i mean if you want I can bring up what BTS was going to do with MOTS Tour that was announced pre-dynamite (ie you can only imagine how much more in demand they are).

 

From just announced dates they had 16 North American Stadium dates, around 8 European Stadium dates, around 12 Japan Dome Dates, alongside 4 Korean Stadium Dates. Keep in mind that that was PRE-DYNAMITE. You can only imagine how many dates they'd need for their post dynamite demand. They could probably do 1M-1.5M attendance in Japan alone post dynamite. 

 

That was also only the first announced part of the tour, and they would have likely added SEA, Central and South American and Midde East stadiums (which they've already played before). They may have even gone to Australia again (they haven't been back there since 2017)... they were also going to go to India as they've mentioned.

 

Alongside a probable encore for all this would probably be even more stadiums in each and every continent (like they did with speak yourself). That encore would no doubt include a finale in Korea which in most of their tours is one more date than the Korean dates from the beginning of their tour. So that's another 4-5 dates in a Korean stadium. 

 

Anyway. All i'm saying is you are easily underestimating BTSs touring demand and its funny to see. Because while yes Blackpink are doing insanely well, you are acting like BTSs touring demand is the same as it was in 2019.

 

BTS has bigger touring demand in US, Europe and Korea not to mention the gap that they have in touring in Japan (keep in mind 12 dome dates were booked prior to BTSs insane popularity explosion in Japan in 2020, they probably wouldn't even be able to meet demand there anymore). 

 

They still needed a good $30 million more to reach $100 million from the 8  American concerts(https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Permission_to_Dance_on_Stage). But I agree with you, while Blackpink is doing really well in touring BTS can do multitudes better especially in North America and Japan which are good concert going countries. Blackpink will likely have a gross of $70-90 million from their north american concerts by the time their tour ends, they teased a New York date. They already have around $50 million in gross from North America and their average ticket price is really expensive, twice as much as other Kpop acts.

 

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At least BORN PINK touring numbers might not be broken by a GG :ghostface:
 

YG successfully created 4 stars. 
Lisa : most streamed kpop song 

Jisoo : First kpop female artist to sell over 1M albums 

Jennie : Most watched mv by a korean singer 

Rosé : highest peak on BBHOT100 by a female korean singer :ghostface: The way they could’ve been bigger with more music. I hate it here. 

11 minutes ago, katyberry said:

tiktok is finally getting banned which means no groups blowing up with no talent, companies are gonna have to get creative again and also no more funded anti-aespa campaign forced onto the masses :jonny5: lots of groups need to start thinking about finding new jobs now 

 

we do not care every app does this
 

#ISTANDWITHTIKTOK

Love me like MONEY

Love me like CARS

Love me babe, love me babe wherever you ARE

Love me up CLOSE

Love me from AFAR

Love me babe, love me babe wherever you ARE

 

 

1 minute ago, Dialamba said:

 

 

 

:clap3:

Not III tour ended already without the additional dates added :deadbanana2:

 

5 minutes ago, Ghiles said:

Love me like MONEY

Love me like CARS

Love me babe, love me babe wherever you ARE

Love me up CLOSE

Love me from AFAR

Love me babe, love me babe wherever you ARE

 

 

this is such a bop :jonnycat:

but those looks weren't it :skull:

The amount of ads on this video :bibliahh: How do you have 8.1M views in less than a week but just 100k likes? 

 

13 minutes ago, Ghiles said:

Love me like MONEY

Love me like CARS

Love me babe, love me babe wherever you ARE

Love me up CLOSE

Love me from AFAR

Love me babe, love me babe wherever you ARE

 

 

 

The 1-2 punch of these :jonny5:

5 minutes ago, katyberry said:

The amount of ads on this video :bibliahh: How do you have 8.1M views in less than a week but just 100k likes? 

 

this group is already dead and gone

Poor Lisa she notices every minimal mistake Baemon does. Imagine her pain when she is performing with Jennie and jisoo :monkey:

2 minutes ago, Companion said:

Poor Lisa she notices every minimal mistake Baemon does. Imagine her pain when she is performing with Jennie and jisoo :monkey:

:hoetenks:

8 hours ago, Hazy said:

they are down in the history books now :clap3: and they still have a shot at another week too! :flower:

 

 

The entire Top3 being Hybe :skull:

 

 

1 hour ago, Dialamba said:

At least BORN PINK touring numbers might not be broken by a GG :ghostface:
 

YG successfully created 4 stars. 
Lisa : most streamed kpop song 

Jisoo : First kpop female artist to sell over 1M albums 

Jennie : Most watched mv by a korean singer 

Rosé : highest peak on BBHOT100

by a female korean singer :ghostface: The way they could’ve been bigger with more music. I hate it here. 

Jennie : Most watched mv by a korean singer  — PSY???

Jisoo : First kpop female artist to sell over 1M albums — Boa is a triple million seller?? 

Lisa : most streamed kpop song — She is not even in the top10 did you mean as a solo?? Most streamed where?? 

Rosé : highest peak on BBHOT100

by a female korean singer — #70-OUT? Would Blackpink in general hold this record not Rosé alone?

Is it confirmed that Aespa and LSFM are releasing around the same time? Or is this just being made up by Allkpop for fanwar

41 minutes ago, katyberry said:

The amount of ads on this video :bibliahh: How do you have 8.1M views in less than a week but just 100k likes? 

 

 

36 minutes ago, Tomek said:

this group is already dead and gone

That’s pretty normal ratio for a Kpop video tho. I don’t see the kii 

 

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