Sure? They're just head coverings. Funny how y'all call hijabs "oppressive" when it comes to Muslim women, but I don't think I've ever seen anyone make a ruckus about Catholic nuns wearing similar head coverings.

1 hour ago, Sugar-Rush said:

Sure? They're just head coverings. Funny how y'all call hijabs "oppressive" when it comes to Muslim women, but I don't think I've ever seen anyone make a ruckus about Catholic nuns wearing similar head coverings.

Because no men shame, kill Catholic nuns or force them to wear it...I thought this was obvious?

2 hours ago, Sugar-Rush said:

Sure? They're just head coverings. Funny how y'all call hijabs "oppressive" when it comes to Muslim women, but I don't think I've ever seen anyone make a ruckus about Catholic nuns wearing similar head coverings.

The Catholic head coverings are ridiculous too. 

 

On 9/28/2022 at 2:27 PM, Communion said:

Do I personally understand why someone would feel a spiritual need to wear modestly garments like these?

 

 

Truth be told, no. 

 

Do I still support someone's right to want to wear one even if I don't understand it? Of course. 

End of thread.

2 hours ago, Sugar-Rush said:

Sure? They're just head coverings. Funny how y'all call hijabs "oppressive" when it comes to Muslim women, but I don't think I've ever seen anyone make a ruckus about Catholic nuns wearing similar head coverings.

Batman looking nuns are hilarious, but they don’t get killed if they take the outfit off.

I respect people's personal choices that don't affect anyone else 

5 minutes ago, Hurem said:

Batman looking nuns are hilarious, but they don’t get killed if they take the outfit off.

This is where the nuance kicks in. In certain parts of the world, taking off the head covering can land you in jail so it's hard to fully accept it. At the same time, it's not the head covering that's the issue there, it's the religious men in power. If you want to wear the head scarf because it's important to you, then so be it. 

yes of course. it's should be a woman's choice of what she wears in support of religion.  what I'm against is it not being her choice, and male family members forcing women to wear hijabs or burqa's out of misogyny disguised as modesty. 

2 hours ago, Sugar-Rush said:

Catholic nuns wearing similar head coverings.

this is conveniently ignored when the nuns wear the head coverings for the same reason

 

On 9/28/2022 at 8:07 PM, Bloodflowers. said:

Yes and no

 

Yes because of freedom of choice, no because personally I don't support sexist ideology behind it, and I oppose religion ideology in general

 

 

facts

57 minutes ago, thetea said:

this is conveniently ignored when the nuns wear the head coverings for the same reason

most nuns don't wear them when out in public, and just look like any other woman - you wouldn't even know it's a nun lol, because they are not forced to wear it - it really originates to when all women were forced to wear head coverings in church (which is equally as ridiculous as hijabs), but luckily that is a thing of the distant past. 

4 hours ago, Sugar-Rush said:

Sure? They're just head coverings. Funny how y'all call hijabs "oppressive" when it comes to Muslim women, but I don't think I've ever seen anyone make a ruckus about Catholic nuns wearing similar head coverings.

Pretty weak argument. Lay women are forced to wear veils in many countries. Nuns aren't lay, the comparison is nonsensical.

Everyone's like but- but- what about -

 

NO. What about? NO. The topic is about the anti-hijab protests.

 

No point in bringing other issues to the topic especially when yall try to get a 'gotcha' moment but end up failing.

1 hour ago, Delirious said:

Everyone's like but- but- what about -

 

NO. What about? NO. The topic is about the anti-hijab protests.

 

No point in bringing other issues to the topic especially when yall try to get a 'gotcha' moment but end up failing.

You are so uneducated about this topic & these protests that at this point, I can’t help but laugh 

 

The women in Iran aren’t protesting against the hijab. The women in Iran are protesting against Article 638 of the Iranian Penal Code, which states women who don’t wear hijab are subjected to various fines and or/penalties.

 

They’re not fighting against the hijab. They’re fighting against the mandatory wearing of the hijab, enforced by the government.

 

There’s a BIG different between “anti-hijab” protest & “anti-compulsory wearing of hijab” protest

 

Edited October 3, 20223 yr by LookinAssHittas

4 minutes ago, LookinAssHittas said:

You are so uneducated about this topic & these protests that at this point, I can’t help but laugh 

 

The women in Iran aren’t protesting against the hijab. The women in Iran are protesting against Article 638 of the Iranian Penal Code, which states women who don’t wear hijab are subjected to various fines and or/penalties.

 

They’re not fighting against the hijab. They’re fighting against the mandatory wearing of the hijab, enforced by the government.

 

There’s a BIG different between “anti-hijab” protest & “anti-compulsory wearing of hijab” protest

 

You think I don't know that? Ofc I do. But like I said before, freedom and the hijab go hand in hand with eachother for the protest. If there was no hjiab then there would be no protests. One leads to the other so ofcourse theyre going to be related to eachother. Stop deflecting the issue at hand but anyways Why are you getting so heated just because i called it the 'anti-hijab' protests?

 

Literally everyone is calling it that. Anyways argue with https://www.reddit.com/r/exmuslim/ users who were actually muslim as they all say it's called the 'anti-hijab' protests.

10 hours ago, Sugar-Rush said:

Sure? They're just head coverings. Funny how y'all call hijabs "oppressive" when it comes to Muslim women, but I don't think I've ever seen anyone make a ruckus about Catholic nuns wearing similar head coverings.

The nuns represent their religious institutions, nothing more. Instead, women with hijab or niqab want to be a part of the society. And here's when they get all the attention. If you go dressed as a nun to a job interview ''outisde the religious institutions'', no one will take you seriously for the job, NO WAY. So don’t be surprised if almost no one hires a woman wearing islamic clothes in the west.  

 

There are countries that have fought wars to separate religious laws and symbols from their government institutions, women with islamic symbols should be no different. But, like I said before in this thread, the conflict is not with those who wear it for prayer or even the old generation of muslim women, but it is with the new generation who want to introduce their religious influence into a society where that type of influence has no place.

Edited October 3, 20223 yr by A.R.L

No but if you want to be oppressed by religion and call it "freedom" or "choice" then who am I to stop you? ?

10 hours ago, Sugar-Rush said:

Sure? They're just head coverings. Funny how y'all call hijabs "oppressive" when it comes to Muslim women, but I don't think I've ever seen anyone make a ruckus about Catholic nuns wearing similar head coverings.

The way you got dragged for this piss poor analogy  

On 9/28/2022 at 8:07 PM, Bloodflowers. said:

Yes and no

 

Yes because of freedom of choice, no because personally I don't support sexist ideology behind it, and I oppose religion ideology in general

 

 

 

10 hours ago, Sugar-Rush said:

Sure? They're just head coverings. Funny how y'all call hijabs "oppressive" when it comes to Muslim women, but I don't think I've ever seen anyone make a ruckus about Catholic nuns wearing similar head coverings.

This is the STUPIDEST argument I've seen in defense of hijabs. 

 

Only women who CHOOSE to BECOME nuns are asked to wear a head covering. Not even the most Catholic country would force LAY WOMEN to cover their heads. That's the difference. Pretending like both situations are the same is extremely disingenuous.

 

 

On 9/30/2022 at 3:29 PM, Gorgeous said:

No woman would choose such a denigrating piece of clothing if they had all the right knowledge and points of view that they were deprived from since they were born. 

How many muslim woman(who wears hijab) did you speak with? 

 

1 hour ago, A.R.L said:

The nuns represent their religious institutions, nothing more. Instead, women with hijab or niqab want to be a part of the society. And here's when they get all the attention. If you go dressed as a nun to a job interview ''outisde the religious institutions'', no one will take you seriously for the job, NO WAY. So don’t be surprised if almost no one hires a woman wearing islamic clothes in the west.

It is true for niqab but headscarf couldn't be more different than habit. It is basically... scarf. 

 

46 minutes ago, Jagger said:

No but if you want to be oppressed by religion and call it "freedom" or "choice" then who am I to stop you? ?

Can you explain how it is an opression when woman want to wear it with her own choice? 

Just now, Artistofthedecade said:

Can you explain how it is an opression when woman want to wear it with her own choice? 

It's NOT really a choice when they've been brainwashed since they were born to believe that's what God wants and they're "bad" women if they don't as their "god" tells them. How CAN it be a choice when in many countries the penalty for not wearing a hijab is a fine, prison or even flogging??????? 

 

The day it's no longer a crime to not wear a hijab in every single country in the world AND men stop brainwashing little girls into believing they're only good in the eyes of God if they wear a hijab or a modesty garment will be day when I truly believe a woman wearing a hijab CHOSE to do so.

 

18 minutes ago, NausAllien said:

It's NOT really a choice when they've been brainwashed since they were born to believe that's what God wants and they're "bad" women if they don't as their "god" tells them. How CAN it be a choice when in many countries the penalty for not wearing a hijab is a fine, prison or even flogging??????? 

 

The day it's no longer a crime to not wear a hijab in every single country in the world AND men stop brainwashing little girls into believing they're only good in the eyes of God if they wear a hijab or a modesty garment will be day when I truly believe a woman wearing a hijab CHOSE to do so.

 

Everyone believes something, for different reasons. People wearing hijab because "God tells them" is not different than people going to church or praying multiple times a day because "God tells them" or  "they are taught that they should do". 

Do you also call people who pray as oppressed people? 

 

This aside, you are generalizing and it is not true that every person who wears hijab or prays regularly do that because they are taught things. I know religious people who chose to be religious when they didn't even born in religious environments. 

 

I totally agree that there are people who are mentally forced to believe the things they believe but again, why are we calling every religious person oppressed(as the user i quoted were doing) when there a people who chose to believe what they believe without people forcing these ideas to them? 

Depends on if they are wearing it by choice or by force. 

2 hours ago, Artistofthedecade said:

How many muslim woman(who wears hijab) did you speak with? 

 

It is true for niqab but headscarf couldn't be more different than habit. It is basically... scarf. 

 

Can you explain how it is an opression when woman want to wear it with her own choice? 

Their belief in god is oppressing them. Their god says that they cannot show their hair in public. Their hair  

 

and yes, I believe all religion is inherently oppressive so I do not support any type of religious wear or behavior. It's pathological 

 

but I would never be rude to someone or discriminate against them because of their religious beliefs. Let me make that clear. This is just my personal opinion. If someone wants to hide their hair because their god will be offended, then go for it ¯\_(ツ)_/¯  It's not my life lol