3 minutes ago, Jagger said:

Their belief in god is oppressing them. Their god says that they cannot show their hair in public. Their hair  

As you said, that’s their own belief. They choose to believe that, they don't have to. 

Oppression would be someone else forcing them to believe that or force them to cover their hair. 

 

I agree that it is dumb to call it "freedom" but it is clearly their own choice if they choose to cover their head with their free will. 

16 minutes ago, Artistofthedecade said:

As you said, that’s their own belief. They choose to believe that, they don't have to. 

Oppression would be someone else forcing them to believe that or force them to cover their hair. 

 

I agree that it is dumb to call it "freedom" but it is clearly their own choice if they choose to cover their head with their free will. 

People DO NOT CHOOSE to believe in those things. Their parents brainwash them into believing all those things (because they were brainwashed themselves by their parents; and the cycle goes on and on and on). And yes, this applies to all religious and all matters of faith.

 

HOWEVER, praying hurts NOBODY so even if they didn't actually choose to believe that praying works (it doesn't; it's all BS), by praying they aren't hurting anyone. Furthermore, not many people would say "you're not praying enough." For what I've seen, praying is a deeply personal thing and most of them time people do it whenever they feel like it. This is not the case with hijabs and the belief that not wearing them makes them worse in the eyes of their god. 

 

But don't worry, I am firmly against RELIGIOUS INDOCTRINATION. If an adult wants to believe in a Space Wizard, let them be. But I hate that children are raised believing these fantasies and they're taught all the moral rules in their magic book must be followed to please the Space Wizard or be punished for all eternity. 

 

Asking a bunch of yt twinks how they “feel about hijabs”…..

2 minutes ago, NausAllien said:

People DO NOT CHOOSE to believe in those things. Their parents brainwash them into believing all those things (because they were brainwashed themselves by their parents; and the cycle goes on and on and on). And yes, this applies to all religious and all matters of faith.

And your source about that is... ? How many Muslim people did you speak with? How many of their parents were religious? What about religious people who didn't have religious parents? They exist. What about them? 

 

Again, some people choose to believe by their free will. Just like you choose to believe every religious people are religious because of their parents. 

 

5 minutes ago, NausAllien said:

HOWEVER, praying hurts NOBODY

And someone covering her hair does? 

1 hour ago, carpetbeetle said:

Asking a bunch of yt twinks how they “feel about hijabs”…..

And everyone here made very good points. 

1 hour ago, carpetbeetle said:

Asking a bunch of yt twinks how they “feel about hijabs”…..

Do you have an argument? 

2 hours ago, GraceRandolph said:

Do you have an argument? 

Right? Like dont be so dense. 

The OP is clearly uneducated on this topic and his choice of words and manner in which he speaks comes across as dumb and ‘NO YOU WILL ACCEPT THAT ISLAM IS POISON AND YOU WILL ACCEPT THE WEST IS SUPERIOR HUNNYYYYY!!!’ so weird and obsessive. WHY do you care? 

46 minutes ago, Love Again said:

The OP is clearly uneducated on this topic and his choice of words and manner in which he speaks comes across as dumb and ‘NO YOU WILL ACCEPT THAT ISLAM IS POISON AND YOU WILL ACCEPT THE WEST IS SUPERIOR HUNNYYYYY!!!’ so weird and obsessive. WHY do you care? 

When the **** did I say the West is superior? You're lying through your teeth at this point.

 

Maybe before calling someone uneducated on a topic, you should start reading first aka the basics instead of making up stupid theories.

It's embarrassing at this point on how many user's try to harrass me and make up dumb stupid false accusations just for my differing opinion on a RELIGION.

 

And the worst part is the majority of those who call me out are very very problematic individuals.

 

Like I said, it's like calling the pot calling the kettle black.

 

You're just mad that the majority voted 'no'. That's too bad. It's not my fault. Use your anger and fustration somewhere else jesus.

I support every women's right to wear it if they want to. 

 

Do I agree with the ideology behind it? Not really. The idea that women need to protect themselves from other men just stems from misogyny.

if it is, fully and without any pretense, their COMPLETELY own choice, then of course they should be able to wear what they want!

 

however, if they are being forced to wear something, that perpetuates the sexist hegemony that is SO antiquated and horrible. one should absolutely be able to express one’s own religion on one’s own terms. not the terms of someone else, constantly oppressing 

 

so it’s not really a “yes/no” question. it’s far more complex

oh and also my mom grew up in an orthodox jewish family, and i feel the same way^ about head coverings

 

lemme be clear though: everyone should have the choice for their own bodies. i’m in no way trying to police what someone should or shouldn’t wear, i’m just giving my two cents from my moral compass

No because it dries out your hair.

21 hours ago, Midnights said:

No because it dries out your hair.

On 10/3/2022 at 8:05 PM, carpetbeetle said:

Asking a bunch of yt twinks how they “feel about hijabs”…..

But I'm sure a vast majority of Muslim women have feelings about gay people  

This thread

 

OT: No 

On 9/29/2022 at 6:48 AM, Mitsouko said:

It doesn't feel right to support someone's choice to be a second class citizen. You do you tho

you kinda snapped 

 

Edited October 6, 20223 yr by Alyssa Edwards

from a feminist and theological perspective, no they make no sense. 

 

However if you just look at them as a piece of clothing then yes i support women and nonbinary people's choice in dressing however they want (even in this case when they are unknowingly or not participating and enabling an archaic form of sexism) 

They look ugly as **** but you do you sistah

29 minutes ago, CBC said:

They look ugly as **** but you do you sistah

omg someone's gonna report you for this we-

On 9/29/2022 at 5:02 AM, Embustera said:

Your country is responsible for the genocide of the Algerian people. Worry about that you ******* hypocrite. Your country is responsible for the killing of millions of people all over the world. People who lived in a French colony have every right to live in France. **** the laws of France. 

POTY

Muslim women in my country wear hijab by CHOICE, no FORCE is enforced upon them. Many become more successful than men in every aspect of their lives and wearing a hijab does NOT hinder than from achieve greater things in life.

 

Women wearing hijab are definitely NOT a 2nd class citizen (as some ignorant atrl users trying to push this agenda on this thread) in many muslim cultures. 

If it's their own choice and they let people live, 100% yes. 

Well, what kind of support? Ethically or literally?

No, I don't support Hijabs. However I would never apply my personal opinion to someone's choice to wear them.