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Lady Gaga

This is part 1 of the Lady Gaga discussion.

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1. Taste - 2,339,875

2. Die With A Smile - 2,126,809

 

213k gap

the gap is getting smaller

 

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Just now, FailSafe said:

Gaga at her absolute peak was never a radio force because for some odd reason Interscope never invested to payola her songs to the charts. She's not Rihanna or Katy Perry where their labels cared about their radio performances. There's a reason why only Paparazzi and BTW reached #1 on the radio. And this were the years when she regularly logged multiple songs on the IFPI charts, she was the only artist doing that and yet when you look at her radio stas from the get go, they are abysmal.

 

Personally, if Gaga wants to, she's capable of mobilizing Interscope to payola her songs on the radio. Lady Gaga is one of the most important artists of the label and as far as we can see, she has a healthy relationship with them.

 

I think Gaga never really cared about radio payola from the beginning. Maybe Interscope offered her from time to time but Gar declines and just tell them to give the budget to up and coming and younger artists ( like Billie etc) :suburban:

Pop radio was fairly supportive until Judas, and then even so they weren't hostile to TEOG/Y&I or Applause later.

 

The difference is her age. And that's what happens to most pop stars. 

4 minutes ago, hausofbryan said:

Where are people seeing that it had poor callout scores? Wasn't the last report last Thursday and it's released each Thursday?

Guess everyone was talking about the one posted on the ATRL thread here

 

 

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- Artist Chart (+1) #16
- #1 WW Spotify =
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- #1 Viral Spotify
- Gap with Sabrina every day smaller
- JFAD sales showing positive numbers
- 11M unfiltered (possible new peak coming) 

 

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3 minutes ago, hausofbryan said:

Pop radio was fairly supportive until Judas, and then even so they weren't hostile to TEOG/Y&I or Applause later.

 

The difference is her age. And that's what happens to most pop stars. 

Yep. Radio is a huge pedo. They are mostly guys pulling their 50 worshipping under-20s artists. :mandown:

1 hour ago, Human Fly said:

Day 25 WW 

 

Flowers 11M 

DWAS 10.9M 

 

Day 25 US 

 

Flowers 1.9M 

DWAS 2.1M 

 

btw Flowers was already #1 on pop radio ar this time we're rotting at #19. 

 

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That's actually crazy :rip: 

 

The way this should easily be a multi-week number 1 but the chart is so heavily radio favored.

7 minutes ago, hausofbryan said:

Pop radio was fairly supportive until Judas, and then even so they weren't hostile to TEOG/Y&I or Applause later.

 

The difference is her age. And that's what happens to most pop stars. 

Pop radio may have loved her but I'm talking about overall radio. Gaga never got the radio push her contemporaries had during their peaks. Multiple non radio #1 songs of Gaga sold more than some #1s from her peers thanks to radio push.

34 minutes ago, Jack! said:

Okay well, to rephrase the question - why wouldn't Interscope be willing to pay the radios to play DWAS, the top song on streaming at the moment, and secure one of their artists another #1 single, but would be willing to pay to have BOAF played so much? Like when we're talking about Interscope how much of a label-wide issue is that really vs. a more personal team issue that Billie's team are maybe more competent than Gaga's? I think most of us know the answer to that, and I understand US radio to be money driven and all business, but I still think regardless it's interesting WHY she's not getting her name on the radio. Does she herself not want Interscope to pay for radio spins for her? Do Interscope feel she's not worth their cash to spend anymore? I just find it interesting.

It's a multifaceted issue that we have to infer a lot about since we don't technically know the inner workings of all this and can only go by what we see and the few crumbs of actual information we get.

 

Stans of many artists have noticed for years that Interscope artists generally tend to do worse on radio than similar sized artists from a few other major labels, and that was all but confirmed in more recent years from that Rolling Stone article that was posted a few pages back where one radio host revealed in passing that Interscope doesn't pay him like some other labels do.

 

Additionally, stans of different artists have also noticed Interscope has a pretty bad habit of pulling their radio promotion for songs at basically the first hint of bad callouts — it's like they're so averse to radio investment in the first place that they don't even want to bother anymore if there's any indication a song won't do well. I can understand the logic from a short term perspective, but there are MANY songs that smashed on radio after getting mid or even bad initial callouts, so ultimately they're taking a gamble for short term savings that might be costing them long term payoffs.

 

Many liddos also forget (or maybe don't even know) that even in Gaga's commercial prime, radio was almost always her weakest point. Pop radio used to be GOOD good to her (as they often are to the star of the moment), but she always struggled compared to some of her other peers like Rihanna and Katy at getting multi-format smashes. This is why she only has two overall radio #1s (one of which was arguably purely based on hype), while they have 13 and 7 respectively. Don't quote me, but I want to say radio was also the reason Bad Romance couldn't get enough points for the Hot 100 #1 in several of those weeks it was stuck at #2.

 

In the Billie versus Gaga comparison you mentioned, we can only guess what's going on there. It could be Interscope isn't as worried about getting Gaga a radio hit as they are with Billie since Billie is in her prime hit making phase they can really capitalize on while this is all gravy for Gaga. It could be Billie's team pushing for it while Gaga's team is content with how her song is doing in other metrics. It could be that Interscope is saving their Gaga radio coins for LG7. We just don't know. :michael:

23 minutes ago, Infernal Paradise said:

 

Ohh GlobalGa

 

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18 minutes ago, MonsterNavy said:

US Spotify:

 

1. Taste - 2,339,875

2. Die With A Smile - 2,126,809

 

213k gap

the gap is getting smaller

 

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We only need 2.5 more months of similar updates to break the record of fastest song to 1B on Spotify :eli:

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4 minutes ago, Namiskine said:

We only need 2.5 more months of similar updates to break the record of fastest song to 1B on Spotify :eli:

With her explosion on US radio, this should be no issue :eli: 

29 minutes ago, perfillusion said:

US Radio Update

25. (-1) Die With A Smile - 28.75 AI (+0.09)

This is INSANE. We are talking about the biggest song in the world right now. Its so unfair. 

30 minutes ago, perfillusion said:

US Radio Update

25. (-1) Die With A Smile - 28.75 AI (+0.09)

If you cast your minds back we noticed it wasn't played at all by the big stations on the fire weekend and many started saying calm down wait  'impact date' but yeah again it was another early red flag :toofunny3:

i really really hope it keeps climbing on that chart so it can overcome this 

That Shaboozey song came out in March/April and it didn't really start going big on radio until months later. It was a slow burn. 

36 minutes ago, perfillusion said:

US Radio Update

25. (-1) Die With A Smile - 28.75 AI (+0.09)

When we thought that radio will play the **** out DWAS because it is inescapable for being the biggest song currently, but we are wrong.

 

 

Four-day update

 

 

Global

 

DWAS 42,082,759
BOAF 32,311,628
Taste 28,975,575

 

USA

 

Taste 9,485,566
DWAS 8,295,794
GLB 7,051,539

From that radio callouts publication:

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Lady Gaga and Bruno Mars song from the upcoming "Joker 2", "Die with a Smile" had a strong debut last week at 11 and the strength of the song continues as it sits at 12 this week with top 5 sales and streams. Callout has been slow for the first two weeks but I have a feeling this may really come alive when the movie releases a little less than a month from now on October 4th.

I guess we'll have to wait for the upcoming Joker 2

:suburban:

 

2 hours ago, Infernal Paradise said:

JFAD pre-sales bombing, back to 60 on RT, delayed Spotify update, terrible callouts

 

Ohh she's NOT taking it

 

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30 minutes ago, DockDock said:

Today we winning.

- Artist Chart (+1) #16
- #1 WW Spotify =
- #1 WW AM #1 US AM today again!
- #1 Viral Spotify
- Gap with Sabrina every day smaller
- JFAD sales showing positive numbers
- 11M unfiltered (possible new peak coming) 

 

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these two posts are killing me :ahh: truly the most entertaining fanbase 

Gaga radio poison confirmedt? :suburban:

 

I guess it's Interflop with the "Nope, we aint paying for radio" attitude.. they're just letting it run its course hoping that maybe it'll blow up radio-wise cause it's still smashing without radio anyway

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JFAD actually selling well? I'm glad I never said anything bad about Todd!

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18 minutes ago, FameFatale said:

That Shaboozey song came out in March/April and it didn't really start going big on radio until months later. It was a slow burn. 

Yeah. I don't see DWAS peaking on radio until November sometime and people don't want that conversation yet as it'll clash with LG7 lead.

 

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