GraceRandolph Posted February 10 Posted February 10 1 minute ago, Sheep said: Chromatica stopped the trend of big declines album to album but let's not pretend she wasn't aiming for something much bigger than just stemming the bleeding when she booked Ariana Grande at her peak and put out a house pop album when all she wanted to write was sad ballads. Exactly
PlERRE Posted February 10 Posted February 10 ASIB cemented her status as an icon, both in music and movies, what are you all talking about. As someone who blames Sarah Tanno for everything, I have to say, there are a lot of factors that didn't help the Chromatica era, and ASIB wasn't one of them. 1
dawnettakins Posted February 10 Posted February 10 (edited) 4 minutes ago, GraceRandolph said: Yeah, but we’ve all talked about how Chromatica era was underwhelming after ASIB era. It’s not offensive to say. But the way and how he stated wasn't really accurate. That deserves a callout. An underwhelming performance or disappointment is not the same thing as a flop or drop in the brand. It really showed quite the contrary in fact as the first few weeks and its peaks show, it's just the material didn't connect with the (GP) audience. Edited February 10 by dawnettakins
Happylittlepunk Posted February 10 Posted February 10 If there is any truth to those tweets is that interscope wants LG7 to be bigger than chromatica. Right now perhaps Gaga/her team and label are having meetings about promotion and don’t want chromatica 2.0 regarding promo. Basically the era abonded after debut week. They want LG7 to have long legs. The music industry is a business and they want to make bank of Gaga . So that’s is understandable and actually seems realistic. 1
Sheep Posted February 10 Posted February 10 Also full tea this is an extremely reliable industry insider and nobody knows more about how a product performs on the market than the company who sells it. 3
Sheep Posted February 10 Posted February 10 2 minutes ago, Happylittlepunk said: If there is any truth to those tweets is that interscope wants LG7 to be bigger than chromatica. Right now perhaps Gaga/her team and label are having meetings about promotion and don’t want chromatica 2.0 regarding promo. Basically the era abonded after debut week. They want LG7 to have long legs. The music industry is a business and they want to make bank of Gaga . So that’s is understandable and actually seems realistic. This is exactly it and what they mean by a Billie rollout. 3
GraceRandolph Posted February 10 Posted February 10 3 minutes ago, dawnettakins said: But the way and how he stated wasn't really accurate. That deserves a callout. An underwhelming performance or disappointment is not the same thing as a flop or drop in the brand. It really showed quite the contrary in fact as the first few weeks and its peaks show, it's just the material didn't connect with the (GP) audience. Chromatica didn’t meet expectations. Doesn’t mean it was a flop or whatever. 5
GraceRandolph Posted February 10 Posted February 10 1 minute ago, Sheep said: This is exactly it and what they mean by a Billie rollout. I’m guessing they are thinking LG7 and JFAD will cross promote each other. 1
Aston Martin Posted February 10 Posted February 10 I'm actually curious if Interscope really wants this to go well because it may (according to that contract leak from 2020/2021) be Gaga's last album with them. That leak revealed that her initial record deal was a five album contract (with TFM being retrospectively counted as album number two) which was extended to 6 albums total in 2010 and 7 in 2012. She has fulfilled 6 albums so far according to the contract (TF, TFM, BTW, AP, J, and C). Her jazz album and ASIB (and by that logic, I'm assuming TG:M and J:FaD) don't count towards that studio album total (again, according to the contract leak). This would make LG7 the last album in the contract. So maybe they want to give her a strong album campaign to convince her to resign with them. But then she apparently resigned in 2016. But that wasn't mentioned in that leak. Though she was apparently given her horse Arabella as a gift from Interscope for resigning. It's kind of confusing tbh. Idk. 2
Happylittlepunk Posted February 10 Posted February 10 25 minutes ago, dawnettakins said: It's clear they dropped the ball but come on. Gaga got her biggest debut with Chromatica literally except for BTW, and got another #1 song that was a smash hit in much of the world. That's WITH a lead single that leaked a month in advance, AND an album that got delayed for 6 weeks due to a global pandemic. But ASIB was able to do all that, PLUS help sell out a stadium tour that was delayed 2+ years due to the same pandemic. ASIB didn't help Gaga and her brand my ass. This **** is delusional and doesn't know a lick what he's talking about. Bingo. ASIB was amazing success for Gaga and helped so much but e need talk about this further Bloody Mary made a bigger impact with her overall brand as Gaga with Gen-z and tik tok than ASIB ever did. Her overall catalog going mega viral particularly with born this way and the fame monster has had a bigger impact to the younger generation than ASIB did. Yes it brought positivity to Gaga again but establish her as a successful actress but Bloody Mary imo truly helped more her overall brand what people define Gaga. 4
GraceRandolph Posted February 10 Posted February 10 5 minutes ago, Aston Martin said: I'm actually curious if Interscope really wants this to go well because it may (according to that contract leak from 2020/2021) be Gaga's last album with them. That leak revealed that her initial record deal was a five album contract (with TFM being retrospectively counted as album number two) which was extended to 6 albums total in 2010 and 7 in 2012. She has fulfilled 6 albums so far according to the contract (TF, TFM, BTW, AP, J, and C). Her jazz album and ASIB (and by that logic, I'm assuming TG:M and J:FaD) don't count towards that studio album total (again, according to the contract leak). This would make LG7 the last album in the contract. So maybe they want to give her a strong album campaign to convince her to resign with them. But then she apparently resigned in 2016. But that wasn't mentioned in that leak. Though she was apparently given her horse Arabella as a gift from Interscope for resigning. It's kind of confusing tbh. Idk. Didn’t Gaga sign a new contract a few years ago though?
lgaga1fan Posted February 10 Posted February 10 6 minutes ago, Aston Martin said: I'm actually curious if Interscope really wants this to go well because it may (according to that contract leak from 2020/2021) be Gaga's last album with them. That leak revealed that her initial record deal was a five album contract (with TFM being retrospectively counted as album number two) which was extended to 6 albums total in 2010 and 7 in 2012. She has fulfilled 6 albums so far according to the contract (TF, TFM, BTW, AP, J, and C). Her jazz album and ASIB (and by that logic, I'm assuming TG:M and J:FaD) don't count towards that studio album total (again, according to the contract leak). This would make LG7 the last album in the contract. So maybe they want to give her a strong album campaign to convince her to resign with them. But then she apparently resigned in 2016. But that wasn't mentioned in that leak. Though she was apparently given her horse Arabella as a gift from Interscope for resigning. It's kind of confusing tbh. Idk. The last contract we saw in the leak gave her two solo studio albums that are optional endeavors with built in budgets already aligned so her *next* album after LG7 would be her "last". Technically she can leave already after Chromatica. 1
Almodusa Posted February 10 Posted February 10 Arabella’s passing should’ve nullified that contract though 1
Aston Martin Posted February 10 Posted February 10 Just now, GraceRandolph said: Didn’t Gaga sign a new contract a few years ago though? See this is what I’m confused about. Because I remember hearing she re-signed with Interscope in 2016 and got her horse Arabella as a gift from Interscope because she re-signed. But then when a ton of her legal documents leaked back in 2020 it showed that she hadn’t fulfilled the album count in her initial contract and a new/resigned one never leaked. And I’m confused about how she could’ve resigned if her old contract wasn’t completed yet. Idk. Just now, lgaga1fan said: The last contract we saw in the leak gave her two solo studio albums that are optional endeavors with built in budgets already aligned so her *next* album after LG7 would be her "last". Technically she can leave already after Chromatica. This makes sense. Thank you!
Happylittlepunk Posted February 10 Posted February 10 35 minutes ago, Jack! said: I love Chromatica so this isn't a dig, and I also don't want to give major credence to those tweets, but compared to 3 of her peers who released big pop albums in 2020 with a big enough single, she was outsold by people like Dua and Ariana and although she did push more than Miley, only slightly. So in the grand scheme of what could have been achieved that year, I think there's a chance they could feel they undersold. How I see it. It’s that interscope wants a mega smash hit from Gaga. Which is why the Billie rollout is being brought up which saved her last era. Worst case scenario at least interscope can fall back on one mega smash from LG7 and hopefully use JFAD success too hype the rest of the era. Like Billie found with Barbie movie soundtrack.
FailSafe Posted February 10 Posted February 10 2 minutes ago, Aston Martin said: I'm actually curious if Interscope really wants this to go well because it may (according to that contract leak from 2020/2021) be Gaga's last album with them. That leak revealed that her initial record deal was a five album contract (with TFM being retrospectively counted as album number two) which was extended to 6 albums total in 2010 and 7 in 2012. She has fulfilled 6 albums so far according to the contract (TF, TFM, BTW, AP, J, and C). Her jazz album and ASIB (and by that logic, I'm assuming TG:M and J:FaD) don't count towards that studio album total (again, according to the contract leak). This would make LG7 the last album in the contract. So maybe they want to give her a strong album campaign to convince her to resign with them. But then she apparently resigned in 2016. But that wasn't mentioned in that leak. Though she was apparently given her horse Arabella as a gift from Interscope for resigning. It's kind of confusing tbh. Idk. Gaga can be many things to people but only a few of them are true, and being a grateful person is one of them. Interscope picked her up at her lowest point and essentially lets her do whatever she wants ever since and treats her well. She will never leave interscope.
opbranden Posted February 10 Posted February 10 14 minutes ago, Gam said: I wasn't gonna post them again but HELP???? He's not reliable anymore. He's been messing up a lot lately. He used to be legit, but not these days. Have you had a chance to review his recent tweets? He is expressing some questionable opinions once again. She was in the studio last week adding horns, which is the final step in completing a record. Even if it was the lead single, it is unusual to complete JUST one song so far in advance (8 to 10 months??? Lol) while leaving the rest of the album unmastered. And have you seen her recent studio pictures? Unmastered?! He's tweeting nonsense. 1
hausofdave Posted February 10 Posted February 10 for starters Interscope can learn how to properly radio payola her singles again instead of pulling the plug a month after just at the sight of seeing the first callouts 2
Gam Posted February 10 Posted February 10 1 minute ago, ToniGaga96 said: He's not reliable anymore. He's been messing up a lot lately. He used to be legit, but not these days. Have you had a chance to review his recent tweets? He is expressing some questionable opinions once again. She was in the studio last week adding horns, which is the final step in completing a record. Even if it was the lead single, it is unusual to complete JUST one song so far in advance (8 to 10 months??? Lol) while leaving the rest of the album unmastered. And have you seen her recent studio pictures? Unmastered?! He's tweeting nonsense. Interesting, I do definitely agree with you on something is coming soon 1
Infernal Paradise Posted February 10 Posted February 10 (edited) Yeah that's how I interpreted it as well, that all the goodwill and the hype coming off of such a massive era didn't necessarily translate as much as they (the Interscope execs) wanted or expected in terms of sales and longevity. All of this if he actually had a word with someone but his tweets seem a bit...off. He's also deleted some of it which is sus. Anyways, whatever. It's all in the rear view mirror now and there's no point to continue harping on it and discussing these things for the umpteenth time. There are so many cogs in a machine and we don't really know what and where things went wrong and where the ball was dropped. It's a good thing that they seem more proactive this time around though when it comes to promotional plans and want to push for better results (again, if his tea is in fact legit) We've got a new era to look forward to and hopefully they have it all planned out before they decide to get the ball rolling and have their contingency plan B/C's in place as well, just in case. Edited February 10 by Marry Illusion Glory 3
Happylittlepunk Posted February 10 Posted February 10 36 minutes ago, dawnettakins said: It's clear they dropped the ball but come on. Gaga got her biggest debut with Chromatica literally except for BTW, and got another #1 song that was a smash hit in much of the world. That's WITH a lead single that leaked a month in advance, AND an album that got delayed for 6 weeks due to a global pandemic. But ASIB was able to do all that, PLUS help sell out a stadium tour that was delayed 2+ years due to the same pandemic. ASIB didn't help Gaga and her brand my ass. This **** is delusional and doesn't know a lick what he's talking about. I think what interscope is doing is comparing chromatica era to the same eras during the pandemic like Harry styles and dua lipa era in 2020 and Taylor with folklore/evermore. That also were released in the middle of covid and yet continued to smash with multiple hits and both continued to promote creatively. Meanwhile they saw Gaga give up one week and team use covid as an excuse not to promote. I feel like this ended up bothering interscope and are not going to budge easily on promo for LG7 easily this coming era. Which is why perhaps they are demanding they want a similiar Billie rollout or focusing a lot on promotional plans right now. Assuming there any truth right now on those tweets. 1
Aston Martin Posted February 10 Posted February 10 10 minutes ago, hausofdave said: for starters Interscope can learn how to properly radio payola her singles again instead of pulling the plug a month after just at the sight of seeing the first callouts This seems like a problem Interscope has with its female artists specifically. They’ll payola a Maroon 5 song to death on radio, but won’t give that same support to Gaga, Billie, Olivia, Lana, or Selena in the way that Sony, Warner, and other UMG labels (like Republic) do with their female artists. Though Olivia, Billie, and Selena all had major radio hits in the past year, and Bloody Mary managed to hit top 10 on pop radio and top 3 (or higher iirc) on AC radio, so maybe they’ve fixed that and will give a bigger push to the LG7 lead.
PlERRE Posted February 10 Posted February 10 I truly love this base. In less than 3 days we went from disappointment thinking the music would come in 2030, the countdown for a countdown, getting hyped because of the studio photos, expecting new music at 12EST, album rankings and today we are in the middle of the battle of the insiders, planning a tour for an album we don't know and discussing her future with interscope. 1 8
GraceRandolph Posted February 10 Posted February 10 16 minutes ago, Aston Martin said: This seems like a problem Interscope has with its female artists specifically. They’ll payola a Maroon 5 song to death on radio, but won’t give that same support to Gaga, Billie, Olivia, Lana, or Selena in the way that Sony, Warner, and other UMG labels (like Republic) do with their female artists. Though Olivia, Billie, and Selena all had major radio hits in the past year, and Bloody Mary managed to hit top 10 on pop radio and top 3 (or higher iirc) on AC radio, so maybe they’ve fixed that and will give a bigger push to the LG7 lead. Radio hasn't been supportive of Gaga since Applause... I feel like expecting radio to be on board in a major way is unrealistic. 1
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