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Lady Gaga

This is part 1 of the Lady Gaga discussion.

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28 minutes ago, Miracle said:

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Sheโ€™s coming :jonny:ย 

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itโ€™s not the post we wanted but itโ€™s the post we deserved

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39 minutes ago, Miracle said:

Please refrain from calling it Joker 2, sequels flop at the Oscars

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13 minutes ago, Freaky Prince said:

But she should milk a snippet a bit on TikTokย :suburban:

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3 minutes ago, Aston Martin said:

Tea. That apparently helped both Greedy and Loving on Me build momentum and we could use thatย :suburban:

I highly doubt she would, but that method has indeed led to some pretty massive hits these past few years:

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First Class

Unholy

I'm Good (Blue)

Greedy

Lovin On Me

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However, I don't know if any majorly established artists with large, loyal fanbases like Gaga have attempted it or what their payoff was. With the above songs, the artists in question aren't exactly A-List and/or don't have the type of rabid fanbase Gaga has and instead rely on more GP listeners.

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I wonder if teasing a song on TikTok like this would be risky for someone like Gaga because it could lead to fanbase fatigue from liddos overplaying the snippet (and thus potentially not streaming the full song upon release as much as we would if it were released normally) and possibly fail to generate the sort of viral traction that would make the risk worth it, which could lead to something similar to Stupid Love's situation.

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Plus, if they're not careful and tease the best part of the song and it does in fact go viral, it could lead to a First Class type of situation where it smashes out the gate but fades pretty quickly since everyone had already overlistened to the best part and it ends up forgotten.

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Just some thoughts regarding this approach. :lee:

Anyway what do we expect for the new single announcement? A simple post, a billboard like it was for Stupid Love, all the post archived on IG or a collage ala Perfect Illusion?ย :ducky:

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I think there is a high chance we are getting a JFAD trailer finally in Super Bowl. If she smart Gaga would release right after the Super Bowl to get a the hype going.ย 

6 minutes ago, atemyheartinc said:

Anyway what do we expect for the new single announcement? A simple post, a billboard like it was for Stupid Love, all the post archived on IG or a collage ala Perfect Illusion?ย :ducky:

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Probably a post + billboard

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Honestly that's all she needs

44 minutes ago, NicoleAMatty said:

Since we're talking about the Fadscars, I can't help but feel like we're expecting way too much of JFAD. I know the first one received 11 Oscar nominations, but that was an exception rather than a rule. Comic book movies aren't exactly Academy Award darlings, and they're clearly taking a different approach this time around.

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Lemme try to keep my expectations in check.

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The Oscarโ€™s for some reason always use โ€œBatman as the exceptionโ€ for Oscarโ€™s nominations including joker films. Letโ€™s not forget heath ledger and the dark knight were heavy winners also. I think Gaga would try to pull a heath ledger and outperform Joaquin Phoenix in his own movie. I think compaign will focus on Gaga trying to get those noms as much as possible. Assuming the entire film is based on Harley perspective. Basically what I am trying to say is that when it comes to Batman universe the Oscarโ€™s committee sees those films as more high bro compared to other super hero movies.

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Just realized Janty Yates got the costume design nom this year she didnโ€™t get for HOG (for Napoleon)

5 hours ago, sunbathinganimal said:

will never get over Arca's lazyass remix of ROM :rip:

oh I just wanted to talk about this, I went to listen to Brees Babylon remix and was shook at seeing ROM remix has less streams that Stupid Love one, but then I listened to it and remembered whyย :rip:

โ€œStorm of Youโ€

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Out Feb 9


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2 minutes ago, Janet said:

No more billboards we beg @Bobbyย 

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2 minutes ago, Solar said:

โ€œStorm of Youโ€

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Delete jk and some dumb ass insider will post it on twitterย 

6 minutes ago, Pop Art said:

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I highly doubt she would, but that method has indeed led to some pretty massive hits these past few years:

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First Class

Unholy

I'm Good (Blue)

Greedy

Lovin On Me

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However, I don't know if any majorly established artists with large, loyal fanbases like Gaga have attempted it or what their payoff was. With the above songs, the artists in question aren't exactly A-List and/or don't have the type of rabid fanbase Gaga has and instead rely on more GP listeners.

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I wonder if teasing a song on TikTok like this would be risky for someone like Gaga because it could lead to fanbase fatigue from liddos overplaying the snippet (and thus potentially not streaming the full song upon release as much as we would if it were released normally) and possibly fail to generate the sort of viral traction that would make the risk worth it, which could lead to something similar to Stupid Love's situation.

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Plus, if they're not careful and tease the best part of the song and it does in fact go viral, it could lead to a First Class type of situation where it smashes out the gate but fades pretty quickly since everyone had already overlistened to the best part and it ends up forgotten.

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Just some thoughts regarding this approach. :lee:

I think there's pros and cons to it. On one hand, she does need GP support in order for a song to be a good sized hit. If the song caught on, the Liddos not streaming it as much would be compensated by the GP streaming it more. I don't think Liddos have the fanbase power to make a song smash by themselves the way a fanbase like the Swifties do. So gaining some TikTok traction would definitely help the song, especially in its debut week. And I think the song gaining traction on TikTok would help its chances on radio too.

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But I didn't about the longevity point you made. Out of curiousity, I decided to look up the streams of the five songs you listed (keeping in mind that Kworb is showing a Sunday update, so they're going to be lower than usual).ย 

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First Class: 360k

Unholy: 818k

I'm Good (Blue): 1.47 million

Greedy: 4.5 million

Lovin On Me: 4.3 million

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The latter two are currently smashing so they don't really count, but the other three show that the longevity is a big question mark. Unholy was much bigger than I'm Good (Blue) in 2022, but the latter is doing much better on Spotify now. And First Class is tanking (fun fact, I have yet to hear it :rip:)ย compared to how much it smashed less than two years ago.

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Overall, I think it's a high risk/high reward strategy. On one hand, it can make a song much bigger than it otherwise would've been, and Gaga will have Joker publicity in the second half of the year to keep the song afloat (which is something Stupid Love/Chromatica overall didn't have). But like you said, it could fail to catch on or it could end up being frontloaded. It could also end up going viral after its release.ย 

7 minutes ago, Bojana said:

oh I just wanted to talk about this, I went to listen to Brees Babylon remix and was shook at seeing ROM remix has less streams that Stupid Love one, but then I listened to it and remembered whyย :rip:

the Stupid Larva one is one of my favourites :jamming:

Imagine an album full of Sweet Sounds of Heaven, Electric Chapel and a bit of You and I :smitten:

16 minutes ago, Almodusa said:

Just realized Janty Yates got the costume design nom this year she didnโ€™t get for HOG (for Napoleon)

we all got duped by SAG over-performance & BAFTA longlists thinking the industry actually liked HOG moreso than film twitter

1 minute ago, hausofdave said:

we all got duped by SAG over-performance & BAFTA longlists thinking the industry actually liked HOG moreso than film twitter

And the HOG production designer also got in for Napoleon lmao

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Wonder how JFAD will do at the guildsย 

this friday Jan 26th is the first time I'm gonna be perched for a potential announcement :duca:

I wonder if she'll announce the LG7 lead with a snippet like she did with Perfect Illusion. :jonny2:

46 minutes ago, Pop Art said:

However, I don't know if any majorly established artists with large, loyal fanbases like Gaga have attempted it or what their payoff was.

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I have a feeling the LG7 lead will serve Houdini (in performance not sound). Can see it doing badly in the US and solidly in Europe. I think it will be received really well by critics and fans though

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