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Lady Gaga

This is part 1 of the Lady Gaga discussion.

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10 minutes ago, Leptine said:

Never doubt that Gaga can still be a force, but my point is that in comparison to other people, her label in general (see also the launch of HMH) is not pulling all the tricks that for example other punctually do in order to make a song a hit, which is fine, I believe charts numbers are not a priority for her at this point of her career, she has other priorities and she's building a different career path.

It's worth noting that both I Ain't Worried and HMH were rolled out the same way, midweek with 0 play listing

They went for this rollout where the film was the promo vehicle then when the streams grew Spotify added to playlists - so, i don't think that was a Gaga specific thing

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11 minutes ago, Smarticle said:

When is JFAD supposed to conclude? I haven't been keeping up

 

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April

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POP

17    16 (+1)    LADY GAGA    Bloody Mary    5937    5407    530    16.135

 

+41 Spins

-122 Bullet
+0.427 Audience

 

HOT AC

22    16 (+1)    LADY GAGA    Bloody Mary    1736    1105    631    5.440

 

+94 Spins

-2 Bullet
+0.297 Audience

 

 

Total audience (POP + HAC): +0.724M

 

 

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10 minutes ago, Freaky Prince said:

April

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And then a whole a$$ year of waiting... Call Ridley Scott and James Charles in for their super fast video editing skills and the movie will be ready by May. No more waiting plus free time to record LG7

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28 minutes ago, DonnieDarko said:

I got VERY lucky with my copy

 

Jealous. I only got an L. It was a pretty L, so at least that's something I guess. 

6 hours ago, pablozedd said:

Can this get a grammy nom/win? :eli:

No, it was recorded over 5 years ago. Think the album isn’t eligible for Best Rock Album either, just in Best Historical Album.

32 minutes ago, Marry Illusion Glory said:

POP

17    16 (+1)    LADY GAGA    Bloody Mary    5937    5407    530    16.135

 

+41 Spins

-122 Bullet
+0.427 Audience

 

HOT AC

22    16 (+1)    LADY GAGA    Bloody Mary    1736    1105    631    5.440

 

+94 Spins

-2 Bullet
+0.297 Audience

 

 

Total audience (POP + HAC): +0.724M

 

 

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Looking good for being "over"

 

 

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33 minutes ago, Marry Illusion Glory said:

POP

17    16 (+1)    LADY GAGA    Bloody Mary    5937    5407    530    16.135

 

+41 Spins

-122 Bullet
+0.427 Audience

 

HOT AC

22    16 (+1)    LADY GAGA    Bloody Mary    1736    1105    631    5.440

 

+94 Spins

-2 Bullet
+0.297 Audience

 

 

Total audience (POP + HAC): +0.724M

 

 

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Can someone explain the negative bullets?

38 minutes ago, Marry Illusion Glory said:

POP

17    16 (+1)    LADY GAGA    Bloody Mary    5937    5407    530    16.135

 

+41 Spins

-122 Bullet
+0.427 Audience

 

HOT AC

22    16 (+1)    LADY GAGA    Bloody Mary    1736    1105    631    5.440

 

+94 Spins

-2 Bullet
+0.297 Audience

 

 

Total audience (POP + HAC): +0.724M

 

 

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but it was over?

1 minute ago, killer_rose said:

Can someone explain the negative bullets?

the - bullet can also mean the spins/audience adjustment. 

BM’s spins were at bigger rate than its audience. 

 

anyway, We need a Bloody Mary EP with sped up version, a new remix for clubs and acapella and instrumental and maybe even some more. I think interscope can do it, it takes like 0 effort to do smth like that. SZA did it for Kill Bill and now Beyonce did it for Cuff It and its actually looking really cool. They can use an outtake from Born This Way era for the cover to have her fans’ attention. 

 

What are they waiting for? Maybe higher radio audience? i have no idea but lets see.

54 minutes ago, noahfence said:

plus free time to record LG7

LG7 is recorded

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48 minutes ago, Mr. Stratus said:

It's worth noting that both I Ain't Worried and HMH were rolled out the same way, midweek with 0 play listing

They went for this rollout where the film was the promo vehicle then when the streams grew Spotify added to playlists - so, i don't think that was a Gaga specific thing

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Not sure why you're making this comparison since 'Ain't worried' wasn't presented and launched as the main single from the soundtrack, I don't think they were expecting it to smash since OneRepublic have been a flop for more than a decade, it made sense it was launched initially in that way in that case.

When it comes to Gaga giving the artist caliber and her coming from the last biggest soundtrack song, any other label would have invested over it at least at the beginning, HMH should have launched like 'Lift me Up' was, whereas they just released it without any strong push during mid week for no reason, which means that also in that case they weren't chasing a hit at all costs and see if the song could have done it alone.

 

This can be applied to other scenarios, during the 'Chromatica' era (releasing a 2 months leaked song as first single, ecc), during the ASIB they could have pushed ARUTW as single, all these choices prove that imo they simply don't care to chase a hit every cost, if it happens naturally like with 'Shallow' good otherwise they're not going to push any further.

14 minutes ago, killer_rose said:

Can someone explain the negative bullets?

In the simplest terms:

 

Quote

Positive "Bullet", positive "Bullet+" = Song is increasing, and more rapidly than before.
Positive "Bullet", negative "Bullet+" = Song is increasing, but it's slowing down.
Negative "Bullet", positive "Bullet+" = Song is decreasing, but not as fast as before.
Negative "Bullet", negative "Bullet+" = Song is decreasing, even faster than before.

 

Currently BM falls in the second category. It's still growing, but at a much slower rate now  :giraffe:

 

10 minutes ago, industry baby said:

The - bullet can also mean the spins/audience adjustment. 

BM’s spins were at bigger rate than its audience. 

This is what I think is actually happening, yeah. As long as the daily spins are +ve, it's fine  :giraffe:

 

1 hour ago, Marry Illusion Glory said:

POP

17    16 (+1)    LADY GAGA    Bloody Mary    5937    5407    530    16.135

 

+41 Spins

-122 Bullet
+0.427 Audience

 

HOT AC

22    16 (+1)    LADY GAGA    Bloody Mary    1736    1105    631    5.440

 

+94 Spins

-2 Bullet
+0.297 Audience

 

 

Total audience (POP + HAC): +0.724M

 

 

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I think the spin=AI ratio in Pop is good. Lower spins but big AI, it means that big stations are playing it more. We only need small stations to follow. 

1 hour ago, PoisonCandy said:

Jealous. I only got an L. It was a pretty L, so at least that's something I guess. 

:hug:

2 hours ago, Leptine said:

Not sure why you're making this comparison since 'Ain't worried' wasn't presented and launched as the main single from the soundtrack, I don't think they were expecting it to smash since OneRepublic have been a flop for more than a decade, it made sense it was launched initially in that way in that case.

When it comes to Gaga giving the artist caliber and her coming from the last biggest soundtrack song, any other label would have invested over it at least at the beginning, HMH should have launched like 'Lift me Up' was, whereas they just released it without any strong push during mid week for no reason, which means that also in that case they weren't chasing a hit at all costs and see if the song could have done it alone.

 

This can be applied to other scenarios, during the 'Chromatica' era (releasing a 2 months leaked song as first single, ecc), during the ASIB they could have pushed ARUTW as single, all these choices prove that imo they simply don't care to chase a hit every cost, if it happens naturally like with 'Shallow' good otherwise they're not going to push any further.

 

iMO stans over-blame labels for how audience respond to songs. It’s part of the culture. There’s other factors. Remember Harry and bad bunny were releasing that month. OSTS never get the same push of a single. The song itself, its intro that could factor into curation.   I can definitely see things interscope can do better, but I don’t think it’s straight forward and I see a lot of good they’ve done too.

 

I'm making the comparison because they were both from the same film and from the same OST - they only come out a week apart. I’ll explain there:

 

 

  HMH was initially supposed to come out in 2020 on top of ROM/Chromatica, I believe its quality and its initial launch reflect that. LMU was rihanna's comeback song after 6 years, but i do agree HMH would've gotten better peaks at least with a TTH cover and top 3 placement. OSTs largely don't receive the same attention or push as singles. HMH it earned a spot later on on TTH cause of its stability, (which makes me think that was their goal) When its response to being put on TTH is poor (which happens a lot of times with ballads). Stans then said 'well its not on the playlist high enough' - that doesn't make a hit a hit. Once a song is on a playlist, if it does well curators will move it up - that's not a labels fault. I don't think HMH would've beeen a smash just cuase it was on TTH top 3, but it'd have got way better peaks  

 

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I woke up feeling she will wear Brandon for the Oscars. 

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I kind of love how messy Gaga and other pop girls in general during 2010s. Everyday is a meldown either from Gaga herself or the monsters. It's so boring now

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She's gonna serve Hillary Clinton meets Cate Blanchett on a boring day at the Oscars and y'all will SEETHE

 

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2 hours ago, industry baby said:

the - bullet can also mean the spins/audience adjustment. 

BM’s spins were at bigger rate than its audience. 

 

anyway, We need a Bloody Mary EP with sped up version, a new remix for clubs and acapella and instrumental and maybe even some more. I think interscope can do it, it takes like 0 effort to do smth like that. SZA did it for Kill Bill and now Beyonce did it for Cuff It and its actually looking really cool. They can use an outtake from Born This Way era for the cover to have her fans’ attention. 

 

What are they waiting for? Maybe higher radio audience? i have no idea but lets see.

That would have been a good idea a month ago. The song has already passed its streaming peak, they are focusing on air play now. 

when she serves MAGA redneck karen Monday Oscars luncheon 

 

 

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40 minutes ago, Vroom Vroom said:

That would have been a good idea a month ago. The song has already passed its streaming peak, they are focusing on air play now. 

Who cares about streaming peak? We just need them to use for a week and get a Top40 peak on Hot100. 

Even if the EP gives her extra 1M streams in its debut week she could jump to #37-40 range. 

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