7 hours ago, king_queen said:

Virgos Groove was NOT elevated live 

 

Anyways, I think 16C is finally starting to get the attention it has always deserved  

Virgos Groove live was very mediocre, and she just sat still for Summer Renaissance, and for me the whole 'clap clap clapclap' part of Cuff It was so strange and ruined the pacing, esp coming just before the 'can I sit on top of you pause'.

I'm excited to see what Renaissance songs performed live would be like post-knee injury, because while the tour was amazing a lot of the songs on the album were underserviced

Edited November 11, 20241 yr by alien superstore

5 hours ago, TipToe said:

I've always thought closing with Summer Renaissance was a tad anticlimactic. Very beautiful to look at  but there's something missing there.

'everything after plastic' as if Virgo's Groove isn't maybe one of the top 3 songs she's ever recorded????

7 hours ago, Jon Snow said:

RENAISSANCE will forever be special since every track got elevated live. if there was a COWBOY CARTER tour we would look completely differently on those songs

 

also when visuals come out (and if there are visuals for every song), they would elevate what we know even more. damn, i wish it could come sooner. maybe next year 

I actually will also kinda disagree with the idea of the tour making Rennie hit. It definitely raised the profile of the album to a larger audience but...I remember going to the most magical queer club nights in 2022 where they played the whole thing top to bottom with everyone screaming along. That album was so special and hit its target demo perfectly.

 

CC is also special, and you can't not respect it, but as a young queer I have struggled to relate to a lot of its themes (marriage, motherhood, 'putting the babies to bed' and having a freak out, etc.). That being said, it hits particularly hard in the wake of Trumps election and even her album artwork feels more pertinent. 

 

I do wonder if the grim reality of a second Trump term will make some of the album's themes more accessible for the Hive.

7 hours ago, king_queen said:

Virgos Groove was NOT elevated live 

 

Anyways, I think 16C is finally starting to get the attention it has always deserved  

pots, thique church girl and summer ren weren't either 

y'all are a bunch of liars.

 

VIRGO'S GROOVE: elevated live arrangement (but middling performance)

MOVE: elevated live

HEATED: elevated live

THIQUE: chop chop

ALL UP IN YOUR MIND: elevated live

AMERICA HAS A PROBLEM: elevated live (especially Kansas City version)

PURE/HONEY: good enough

SUMMER RENAISSANCE: meh

Halo was a better closer than SR even though She always closed with it. Texas should be the tour closer if CC is getting a tour. 

1 hour ago, ScorpiosGroove said:

pots, thique church girl and summer ren weren't either 

Love Hangover into POTS >>>
Those synths at the very beginning >>>
 

Thique should've translated the best live and had the most choreo but alas, injuries 

 

I expected Summer Renaissance to be exactly what it was

 

We deserved a CIL/Church Girl mashup 

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I's there any relationship between Bey and St. Vincent? Cause I think I really want Annie on act iii. She's been one of my faves for a decade 

Why are there always hate campaigns against Beyonce?  I mean tons of promoted posts on Facebook and other places?  They're all obviously AI, too

Edited November 11, 20241 yr by Lose My Breath

Beyoncé is beautiful, talented, rich on her own, married to a billionaire who literally worships the ground she walks on (now), has 3 beautiful children and is highly revered in her line of work and she doesn't go out of her way AT ALL to prove herself anymore

 

And although that is the reason we love her, that is the exact reason why so many people despise and hate her. Simply put, she brings out insecurities in insecure ppl.

 

I don't think this hate train is anything new, but I do think social media has made ppl dumber so I only imagine the conspiracy theories around her will get worse. It has been like this since the Say My Name music video release and it's the exact reason she doesn't talk to anyone who she doesn't trust anymore. I don't blame her either.

32 minutes ago, Lose My Breath said:

Why are there always hate campaigns against Beyonce?  I mean tons of promoted posts on Facebook and other places?  They're all obviously AI, too

She's MJ level famous now, it just happens when you're a globally known person and involved in politics at all.

 

MLK was literally shot for traveling the world to promote "world peace" and "equality" it comes with the job.

36 minutes ago, Lose My Breath said:

Why are there always hate campaigns against Beyonce?  I mean tons of promoted posts on Facebook and other places?  They're all obviously AI, too

Beyoncé IS the most-hated woman in the music industry for baseless reasons, but has continuously prevailed and remained relevant and successful despite the odds. Also, social media doesn't help, but regardless, she's a true icon! 

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Wait NOT "16 CARRIAGES" trying to get her lil viral moment on TikTok!! 

39 minutes ago, satellites.™ said:

She's MJ level famous now, it just happens when you're a globally known person and involved in politics at all.

 

MLK was literally shot for traveling the world to promote "world peace" and "equality" it comes with the job.

idk why this mlk comparison is sending me

3 hours ago, Jon Snow said:

I's there any relationship between Bey and St. Vincent? Cause I think I really want Annie on act iii. She's been one of my faves for a decade 

Annie loves Bey, she's a selftitled and lemonade stan (notably Blow), i need her involved with act III real bad 

 

 

 

14 minutes ago, Click Clack said:

idk why this mlk comparison is sending me

Honestly, it came to mind when I was thinking about her haters. For every reason they can try coming up with, history reminds me that MLK literally was "Non Violent" and he was still hated, stalked, and murdered. You can be good or bad, haters will always latch on like leeches.

 

2:53 16 CARRIAGEEESSSS

 

 

16 Carriages needs that Grammy, badly. It just hit me all over again the other day.

still convinced that "come on baby, it's time to rock" was a very deliberate act III tease 

24 minutes ago, ScorpiosGroove said:

Annie loves Bey, she's a selftitled and lemonade stan (notably Blow), i need her involved with act III real bad 

 

 

 

damn, thanks 

 

i knew she liked her, but i'm now even more invested in their collab. bey had ryan beatty on act ii, so i'm hopeful for something with annie is possible

 

another collab i wish would happen is florence. i know she did songs with other pop girls, but her and bey would hit hard 

31 minutes ago, ScorpiosGroove said:

Annie loves Bey, she's a selftitled and lemonade stan (notably Blow), i need her involved with act III real bad 

 

 

 

I remember she complimented Beyoncé for either self titled or Lemoné on a interview for a magazine, if I'm not mistaken the interviewer didn't even mention B's name, she brought her into the convo naturally. It was something a long the line of females occupying the forefront of the industry and not being afraid of defying the norm.

To this day, I can't believe the Beyonce of Say My Name, Check on It, and Countdown created ALIEN SUPERSTAR and much of REN. Like her evolution is truly mind boggling and I think history will be much kinder to her growth and legacy than the current haters. 

5 hours ago, kimberly said:

y'all are a bunch of liars.

 

VIRGO'S GROOVE: elevated live arrangement (but middling performance)

MOVE: elevated live

HEATED: elevated live

THIQUE: chop chop

ALL UP IN YOUR MIND: elevated live

AMERICA HAS A PROBLEM: elevated live (especially Kansas City version)

PURE/HONEY: good enough

SUMMER RENAISSANCE: meh

Move and AHAP were the elevated ones. I personally expected way more of Heated live.

Aint Beenshit is mixed up with Johnny Depp and we don't need Neck mixed up with that!