44 minutes ago, Teneo said:

It wasn't a part of "the visuals" and from what I was told pretty much a tone deaf troll move like the Renaissance teaser with homemade footage like the 7/11 video and some scenes that were filmed backstage when doing the tour film. It was not a professionally directed video and never a part of the visual project. 

well thank god that was scrapped that would've pissed me off LOL 

Edited July 2, 20242 yr by yonsé

7 hours ago, ShouldersSideways said:

I personally prefer tighter albums, regardless of what promo she's done or hasn't done. There's no single song on the album I truly dislike. But, I think the quality control was lacking in the sense some of these are good songs but are not worthy of placement on what otherwise could've been a 10/10 album. 

I totally see that. I guess it's because I see some of the same users that thought the album was perfect in the beginning. Completely lashing tf out of it for streams and everythingggg, and cutting out like HALF the album. Like bookie just awhile ago when she was breaking records you were praising everyyyy song on the d*mn thing .

 

But I totally get where you're coming from and it's def a preference thing. I love most albums, tight or "bloated". Because I truly feel every piece was meant to be in there. Maybe I'll delete a song or two or skip em. But not delwre nearly half the album lmaooo!

5 hours ago, TizTiz said:

• People are going to complain that Beyoncé hasn't done anything to promote this album because Beyoncé really hasn't done anything to promote this album. Of the last 11 years, she didn't promote in her traditional sense because she wanted her and her visuals to speak for themselves. She still did interviews, magazine cover story, televised performances, touring- something! This is the first time she literally hasn't done anything and communicated that she is not doing anything. It's not far fetched that fans are not happy with having absolutely nothing from her besides more things to purchase. She has never just done nothing for one of her commercial albums, it's okay that people are going bat **** crazy every 3 days. 
 

• The album is bloated. Not because the songs are good, but because she tacked together songs 4 years, some songs being recorded after the release was announced, and they do not all complement each other in one album. We've been stating this since the album dropped, no other Stan/fan base can make me believe this, as a final product, is good or bad. 
 

• Some fans believe this is her best album, some believe it's her worst album. Some fans feel the album could've been threaded together better, some fans feel some songs should've never been included. No matter who thinks what, some of these songs are the most commercial, hit out the gate songs she's recorded since 2008. There's at least 4 #1 singles on RENI & COWBOY and those songs & the albums could've pulled blockbuster numbers back to back, but that doesn't change the quality of the album. 
 

I don't think ppl are asking for months and months of promotion in a serious manner. She's been in the music business since she was 14/15 and was a pageant girl before she was 10, she's probably tired of the industry as a whole. Fans are asking to have something to complete the fan fair relationship. She's done so without having to lift a finger before through visuals, interviews from PK, those pretentious videos she used to post on YouTube, coffee table books, whatever. The 'enjoy the music, the visuals are coming' doesn't really work after 1 installments of a 3 installment project where nothing is happening. 

I see where you come from. And as a Stan I too do wish at times she literally just completely juiced albums like she use to for their WORTH. Cause let's be honest albums like Rennie and Cowboy are meant to have THRILLER type of success. Like truly they're meant to be in MUSEUMS, and as Stan's it's hard to see that she doesn't really see it in the way we do.

 

And I also think inevitably as Stans our priorities with our faves don't always align with each other or us. But idk I just have such a strong feeling that our reception of this entire album would be different had she followed the route she was going when she came out guns blazing at the beginning of the era (Which is obvious). 

I'm someone that likes to move on to things QUICK. And so is most of our generation. We don't really care for long era's anymore, so I'm just super excited for Act lll and what she's got for us! Aaghhhh!!! 

2 hours ago, Joaco95 said:

 

Oop...of course it was for Cécred

 

levi jeans (an actual fun song) gets way too much disrespect here, ain't no way you listen to protector more unless you all are needing it to nap

 

30 minutes ago, cuteboyzay said:

I see where you come from. And as a Stan I too do wish at times she literally just completely juiced albums like she use to for their WORTH. Cause let's be honest albums like Rennie and Cowboy are meant to have THRILLER type of success. Like truly they're meant to be in MUSEUMS, and as Stan's it's hard to see that she doesn't really see it in the way we do.

 

And I also think inevitably as Stans our priorities with our faves don't always align with each other or us. But idk I just have such a strong feeling that our reception of this entire album would be different had she followed the route she was going when she came out guns blazing at the beginning of the era (Which is obvious). 

I'm someone that likes to move on to things QUICK. And so is most of our generation. We don't really care for long era's anymore, so I'm just super excited for Act lll and what she's got for us! Aaghhhh!!! 

If she actually moves on to act iii I might not listen to Cowboy Carter again for the longest time. She really needs to do something to spark new interest in these songs. Remixes, tour, recording footage, anything.

30 minutes ago, QueenB said:

levi jeans (an actual fun song) gets way too much disrespect here, ain't no way you listen to protector more unless you all are needing it to nap

 

deserved 

51 minutes ago, Draper. said:

If she actually moves on to act iii I might not listen to Cowboy Carter again for the longest time. She really needs to do something to spark new interest in these songs. Remixes, tour, recording footage, anything.

Then ull just join the GP, no hard feelings my love

 

Y'all are trippin, CC is a perfect summer album to listen to while enjoying nature.  I love it

 

 

 

 

the way the lights went crazy on that part just in the opening show

11 hours ago, cuteboyzay said:

Like the way some of y'all are tryna make a shorter tracklist for the album because every other stanbase has convinced y'all that the album was "bloated". 

and then there's me who called POSTYY'S RAGS and II LEAST STREAMED trash from the beginning while praising most of the rest

 

as a known AUIYM defender i do not let streams influence my opinion

1 hour ago, Kristie Kuwa said:

Then ull just join the GP, no hard feelings my love

 

No?  I mean, it's not the first time this happens either. I didn't really love The Gift until she released Black Is King. If you're okay with not having a tour either... good for you, but if this is the era as it is it completely sucks for me and an album that has never really clicked with me won't do it magically. And then I'll move on from it just like she did, that doesn't make me part of the GP (which I wouldn't be either since I'm still a music stan and there's plenty of artists I follow).

3 hours ago, QueenB said:

levi jeans (an actual fun song) gets way too much disrespect here, ain't no way you listen to protector more unless you all are needing it to nap

 

I in the beginning, and I do mean as a leak, I just knew, if she's going to use one if she was going to use one of the caucasians as a single option, it was going to be Post with LJ. It's one of those summer singles that you hate because radio won't stop playing and ppl won't stop mentioning it. But it grew old by the third day. That song is damn annoying 🤣🤣. Still one of my favorites, but one of those songs I have to be in mood for. 

Edited July 2, 20242 yr by TizTiz

Bey really posted the Victoria tribute and then said, "..... because I'm going to use you to promote Cecred in a few hours!" 

 

5 hours ago, yonsé said:

im telling y'all, its gonna be in cinemas. ren film was a dry run

 

and then she'll never release it 

If she does the same things with the visuals that she's done with the RENI (TMCSWT, FWT) she's peddling the lines of being physical assault, especially since she's started allowing ppl to touch her now 🤣😩 Julius is tired of the beyhive❗️

 

I think she saw the possibility and variety with  streaming services and will be taking them there. We're talking about 3+ hours of music videos. I'm pretty sure her hands are washed with AMC and no one else would care about 60 music videos. 
 

She's already licensed "BEYONCÉ" visuals to MTV and BEYONCÉ: X10 "LEMONADE" to HBO, streaming seems to be the most realistic avenue after the accessibility to "HOMECOMING" & "BLACK IS KING" and their success & impact for just a passion/side projects. 
 

I'm not sure what's the plan for the RENI tour film, but it's probably not the best thing to base release music videos for. There's too many video with too little interest to actually halve to go to a theater, pay to see them when music videos are meant to be easily accessible.
 

But we are working with a high school drop out pandering 60 music videos over a decade. 

5 hours ago, Jon Snow said:

i think the story is COWBOY CARTER > act iii > RENAISSANCE

 

and the sound of act iii will be a transition from CC to REN. she ends RENAISSANCE with "applause, a round of applause" which means that she's done with the three act performance. she would've never released REN visuals first because of that, and now she's not releasing CC visuals because she changed the album and needs to add more videos 

Could be plausible. I've never gotten the weird beep at the end of AMEN being a direct transition into ITG. It feels like something in the middle of this makes more sense. I've also been saying a couple pages back, "SUMMER RENAISSANCE" is definitely an ending, in every sense of the word. There's nothing could come after the song, because it feels complete. It's one of the reasons I knew RENI couldn't have been the 1st installment album. 

Flamenco all the way down to Amen is such career highlight. I just don't particularly care for the first+ half of the album (bar American Requiem).  

1 minute ago, BGKC said:

Flamenco is such career highlight

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"I'm in my bag, bag, bag, bag" as the closing lines of the song could also be interpreted as more to come rather than the closing of the trilogy, though.

20 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

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Daughter is a career highlight

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14 minutes ago, ShouldersSideways said:

"I'm in my bag, bag, bag, bag" as the closing lines of the song could also be interpreted as more to come rather than the closing of the trilogy, though.

she was foreshadowing those ticket and merch prices

 

15 minutes ago, Devin said:

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both true tho 

 

 

both top 3 on CC

 

Edited July 3, 20242 yr by Jon Snow

u know its bad when swissman and giRLbye stopped coming in here.