55 minutes ago, Red Velvet said:

I'm also worried about how Parkwood will go about picking the next single.

 

Renaissance was a MESS in that regard.  

 

Heavy playlisting Summer Renaissance > ignoring Alien Superstar > trying to push Church Girl > finally jumping on Cuff It

 

The after release is my concern. They lucked out with Cuff It, will the same thing happen with CC? 

act ii: First Week Predictions

 

232K - satellites™

250K - Matangi

275K - sillycilla

300K - Armani?, Cbreezy, Jai, futuresuperstar2023

305K - PrettyHurts

315K - QueenB

317.296 - Marla Singer

320K - Starshine

330K - Lovett

335K - trainsskyscrapers

345K - Burn, luxurious, suneclipse121

350K - Massive_Teardrop, Beyle Street, ReneighIsHere

360K - Tripthelight

365K - Hallad173, Jon Snow, Aristotle

366K - kimberly

370K - Erotica

375K - Lose My Breath, YellowRibbon, BGKC

385K - cuteboyzay

388K - benyonce

392K - Rafael

397K - Slamless

400K - Devin, QueenDiva, Havoc, SoundsandSongs, Punch, Mr. Specialist, Bey’Knight

401K - Redporus

404K - ShouldersSideways

410K - ToraeGilt

412K - Kristie Kuwa 

415K - Kalmanta

420K - SashaDevachelli

425K - pieuxvu

440K - V$

444K - Crayzik, OnMyCoolJ

450K - MrPiggyMoka, gisellecarter4, Space&Time

475K - cloudbusting

515K - Blue Rose

540K - PrudenceHCharmed

550K - Chris, Mitsouko 

 

6 minutes ago, Lose My Breath said:

The after release is my concern. They lucked out with Cuff It, will the same thing happen with CC? 

Well they handled THE better than BMS with the playlisting and initial push, so theres hope I would say

I’m sure it was discussed but I’m getting confused with the pre-order numbers. Are yall posting what’s left or what’s sold?

 

Are we keeping count of the probable sales based on the initial inventory and are we accounting potential restocking?
 

 

5 hours ago, Crayzik said:

If she's still playing the elusive I can see her open with 444K but if this time she releases a groundbreaking visual for THE () or even a performance she can pull more than 500k.

 

I don't know for ya'll but my weekend will start the 3.28 - no way i'm working the day of a B release

 

I’ve never had to take a day off, cus, as usual, I happen to be on vacation whenever she releases. This time in London where the stanning is steeped 

Just now, Space&Time said:

I’m sure it was discussed but I’m getting confused with the pre-order numbers. Are yall posting what’s left or what’s sold?

 

Are we keeping count of the probable sales based on the initial inventory and are we accounting potential restocking?

The numbers are for left stock, the initial numbers are confusing because nobody really knows.

19 minutes ago, Space&Time said:

I’m sure it was discussed but I’m getting confused with the pre-order numbers. Are yall posting what’s left or what’s sold?

 

Are we keeping count of the probable sales based on the initial inventory and are we accounting potential restocking?
 

 

This is exactly what I thought seeing the numbers 

it's basically the norm nowadays to leave it to the GP to choose the post-album single so i'm not worried about that.. they might not promote the right track during the first week but they'll be forced to listen to the public eventually.. so hopefully someting stands out after the first few days and they make that the single

After witnessing JT and JLO’s rollout, it’s sad to say you really do become insufferable to the masses after a certain age if you’re everywhere and pushing your material in their faces. There are times that I think Beyoncé should do more (and I still think she could do more in certain aspects) but I do also wonder if because she’s not so  in your face for promo. It’s why she can still be seen as more likable than a chunk of her contemporaries. 

2 minutes ago, FSXP said:

After witnessing JT and JLO’s rollout, it’s sad to say you really do become insufferable to the masses after a certain age if you’re everywhere and pushing your material in their faces. There are times that I think Beyoncé should do more (and I still think she could do more in certain aspects) but I do also wonder if because she’s not so  in your face for promo. It’s why she can still be seen as more likable than a chunk of her contemporaries. 

Beyonce's sort of "exclusive" image does help with longevity imo. Instead of giving off the vibe of "aunty that tries to keep up with her nieces", her image is talented yet mysterious. It makes people interested in her actions and turns her performances and tours into events.

11 minutes ago, FSXP said:

After witnessing JT and JLO’s rollout, it’s sad to say you really do become insufferable to the masses after a certain age if you’re everywhere and pushing your material in their faces. There are times that I think Beyoncé should do more (and I still think she could do more in certain aspects) but I do also wonder if because she’s not so  in your face for promo. It’s why she can still be seen as more likable than a chunk of her contemporaries. 

You’re on to something

4 minutes ago, Space&Time said:

You’re on to something

pink suffers the same thing musically...not commercially cause she can still sell a tour but shes not seeing any music success again

y'all are also forgetting that those hags are washed up and dropping straight TURDS

ageism is definitely a factor, but recording the musical equivalent of dysentery and calling it an album doesn't help

 

that's a very important part of Bey's sustained success - she's continued to hone her craft and experiment consistently instead of coasting in a comfort zone

Beyoncé comes from the school of Michael Jackson and Prince. They too remained elusive and just kept it about their art, barely doing any promotion. It worked out ok for them.

1 hour ago, Devin said:

act ii: First Week Predictions

 

232K - satellites™

250K - Matangi

275K - sillycilla

300K - Armani?, Cbreezy, Jai, futuresuperstar2023

305K - PrettyHurts

315K - QueenB

317.296 - Marla Singer

320K - Starshine

330K - Lovett

335K - trainsskyscrapers

345K - Burn, luxurious, suneclipse121

350K - Massive_Teardrop, Beyle Street, ReneighIsHere

360K - Tripthelight

365K - Hallad173, Jon Snow, Aristotle

366K - kimberly

370K - Erotica

375K - Lose My Breath, YellowRibbon, BGKC

385K - cuteboyzay

388K - benyonce

392K - Rafael

397K - Slamless

400K - Devin, QueenDiva, Havoc, SoundsandSongs, Punch, Mr. Specialist, Bey’Knight

401K - Redporus

404K - ShouldersSideways

410K - ToraeGilt

412K - Kristie Kuwa 

415K - Kalmanta

420K - SashaDevachelli

425K - pieuxvu

440K - V$

444K - Crayzik, OnMyCoolJ

450K - MrPiggyMoka, gisellecarter4, Space&Time

475K - cloudbusting

515K - Blue Rose

540K - PrudenceHCharmed

550K - Chris, Mitsouko 

 

380k

lol @ MJ and elusive. If that man was going to do anything, it was promote his music.

 

And are yall really comparing Jt/jlo to Bey? Like someone mentioned they never honed their craft. JT released music every 10 years, plus always cheating on his wife and the Britney drama didn’t help. JLO could never sing and never was an artist.
 

The artists that consistently released and/or promoted, Drake, Rihanna’s, Taylor, etc are reaping the rewards. 

Edited March 16, 20242 yr by sillycilla

THE is a hit, every day a new local celebrity is using it on their stories, it's giving smash here. Hopefully it transforms into tour dates.

Also I got a nice kick out of being reminded how everyone absolutely trashed JT when he attempted a country album a few years ago. So far, the reception with Bey has been good, I hope it continues. 

6 minutes ago, sillycilla said:

lol @ MJ and elusive. If that man was going to do anything, it was promote his music.

Thriller is the best selling album of all time and he didn't promote it (apart from the Pepsi commercial which he only appears for 3 seconds in and didn't even want to do). You could say the Thriller visual was promo but that arrived 2 years after the album. I do think Bey has learned from him.

1 hour ago, Devin said:

act ii: First Week Predictions

 

232K - satellites™

250K - Matangi

275K - sillycilla

300K - Armani?, Cbreezy, Jai, futuresuperstar2023

305K - PrettyHurts

315K - QueenB

317.296 - Marla Singer

320K - Starshine

330K - Lovett

335K - trainsskyscrapers

345K - Burn, luxurious, suneclipse121

350K - Massive_Teardrop, Beyle Street, ReneighIsHere

360K - Tripthelight

365K - Hallad173, Jon Snow, Aristotle

366K - kimberly

370K - Erotica

375K - Lose My Breath, YellowRibbon, BGKC

385K - cuteboyzay

388K - benyonce

392K - Rafael

397K - Slamless

400K - Devin, QueenDiva, Havoc, SoundsandSongs, Punch, Mr. Specialist, Bey’Knight

401K - Redporus

404K - ShouldersSideways

410K - ToraeGilt

412K - Kristie Kuwa 

415K - Kalmanta

420K - SashaDevachelli

425K - pieuxvu

440K - V$

444K - Crayzik, OnMyCoolJ

450K - MrPiggyMoka, gisellecarter4, Space&Time

475K - cloudbusting

515K - Blue Rose

540K - PrudenceHCharmed

550K - Chris, Mitsouko 

 

imma say 410k since she has a streaming hit this time around

 

58 minutes ago, FSXP said:

After witnessing JT and JLO’s rollout, it’s sad to say you really do become insufferable to the masses after a certain age if you’re everywhere and pushing your material in their faces. There are times that I think Beyoncé should do more (and I still think she could do more in certain aspects) but I do also wonder if because she’s not so  in your face for promo. It’s why she can still be seen as more likable than a chunk of her contemporaries. 

Bey is very different tho:

Her emphasis this past decade has been quality > quantity + focus on music.

And she hasn't just talked the talk - she said what she was going to do and kept doing it. Bigger, better, Beyonce lol

 

Thats why shes in a completely different lane than JT or Jlo

To think that some people really wanted this era to be called Redemption

 

30 minutes ago, Kristie Kuwa said:

Bey is very different tho:

Her emphasis this past decade has been quality > quantity + focus on music.

And she hasn't just talked the talk - she said what she was going to do and kept doing it. Bigger, better, Beyonce lol

 

Thats why shes in a completely different lane than JT or Jlo

There’s absolutely several factors that go into it. I also think Bey’s quality and creativity is vastly above them, but it was more about the optics that come with aging that she’s avoided so far.
 

It’s almost like them (Justin and Jennifer) constantly pushing themselves into every space to promote causes them to look more like they’re wanting it too much and trying too hard which causes more people on social media to try to humiliate them in a sense. The same kind of happened to Madonna at one point but she was still able to successful on a level that they weren’t. 

Edited March 16, 20242 yr by FSXP

Spotify wise, I think CC doing 50M first day is reasonable. We still have yet to see the tracklist but if it's 12+, it's doable. 

Hoping she sticks to 16 tracks for all 3 acts. 16 is divisible by 4