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Beyoncé

This is part 1 of the Beyoncé discussion.

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Just now, carameldelight said:

june 3 about a flagship store LOL, go awf!!!!

but i thought she wasn't sending them? so you changing your mind again on that happening? that tracks

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Let's not forget that even her releasing the album cover ahead of the album (a form of promo) was an entire week or so of discussion about if the cover was good enough, if it needed a dance floor on the bottom, if it should have been one of the VOGUE UK shots, if this were different, if that were different. It's tiresome because nothing she does goes without endless critique and inspection and truly no one knows better than Beyoncé how to run her career the way she wants it. If she wanted a disco horse on a solid black background, that's what it's going to be. And at this point it's SUCH an iconic image and every single suggestion to "improve" it was some basic, uninspired idea.

 

I understand having an opinion and not having to like everything she does, but it often feels like people just want to complain and that their vision for Beyoncé is more important than her own.

2 minutes ago, yonsé said:

but i thought she wasn't sending them? so you changing your mind again on that happening? that tracks

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I think you miss the point, but that's expected. You are talking about routine things, photos and a message from 6 months ago, that has nothing to do with another act or music or album. I didn't know you needed to be that literal. 

 

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4 minutes ago, swissman said:

the way I see it is:

 

  1. it's intentional
  2. unknown factors have occurred that has changed the plans

 

but either way, to think that she suddenly forgot what she did for decades to great success and simply just doesn't know how to manage herself (as if she WANTS hits and streaming numbers and all that but just doesn't know how to get it) is ridiculous. We already saw this era how when BREAK MY SOUL was inching toward #1, the remix was promptly dropped. If she wants to get some sort of achievement, she'll do something to get it. Until then we will just keep waiting because she's never going to get on IG live and announce that there's behind-the-scenes issues. That's just not Beyoncé. Expecting her to do stuff she simply is not going to do is only willfully letting yourself get upset.

im glad SOMEBODY gets it. 

 

this woman has shown us her process into planning her eras for years. through multiple documentaries. but just because it's not the result that they want, all of a sudden she's a sloppy flop who sabotages her works, as though self titled didn't scan a 900K copies in just 3 days. it's wild. like be frustrated all you want. but ppl are just making things up now :rip:

If Madonna's old ass in her 60's can figure out tiktok and still does promo for her new projects (performances, interviews, videos, etc) then Beyoncé has no excuse. I don't care how corny Madonna may have been lately, she got up off her death bed and posts behind the scenes looks at her upcoming tour which is more than Beyoncé has done for Renaissance

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Just now, carameldelight said:

I think you miss the point, but that's expected. You are talking about routine things, photos and a message from 6 months ago, that has nothing to do with another act or music or album. I didn't know you needed to be that literal. 

 

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well seeing as we're still in act i...i don't know why she would need to be sending out text blasts for a new era when she hadn't even announced the tour for the first act yet. clearly YOU don't understand that we are still in act i. but that's to be expected.

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5 minutes ago, ScorpiosGroove said:

we can’t compare her to younger girls bc "they are starting out so promo is expected", we also can’t compare her to the older ones bc "she’s not like them" and we also CAN’T compare her to her peers bc y’all will have excuses for that too :devil:

 

she already did a vma medley half a decade ago so she doesn’t need to perform anywhere anymore bc she already did that like ? 

 

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They have excuses for the excuses. Beyoncé is everything yet nothing at all at the same time lmao 
 

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3 minutes ago, swissman said:

I understand having an opinion and not having to like everything she does, but it often feels like people just want to complain and that their vision for Beyoncé is more important than her own.

THIS is it right here.

It’s a win win for me if another act happens however if it doesn’t I don’t think y’all that are so sure it’s fact will be ok. 
 

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4 minutes ago, sillycilla said:

It’s a win win for me if another act happens however if it doesn’t I don’t think y’all that are so sure it’s fact will be ok. 
 

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at least we're OK now. :gaycat: can't imagine already being so worked up and frustrated over a hypothetical scrapping of her next album.

 

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I have to laugh at people wanting promo, but then also say she is too good to attend basically anything. 

 

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8 minutes ago, kimberly said:

at least we're OK now. :gaycat: can't imagine already being so worked up and frustrated over a hypothetical scrapping of her next album.

 

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Who’s mad about a non existent album that most of us don’t think will happen? BFFR. We’ve been dragging Bey about the present keep up..

 

homegirl came in all aggressive about the acts definitely happening because someone said they didn’t think it will lololllol 

 

Stop trying to put things on us. The meltdowns will be epic. And I will be petty as always.
 

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28 minutes ago, yonsé said:

this is the issue. because she doesn't promote the album the way y'all WANT her to, its "sabotage"

This is categorically false. She doesn’t just not promote, she goes out of her way to sabotage herself. Let’s refresh your memory:

- releasing Pretty Hurts as a single to Urban radio

- releasing Flawless Remix as a single but letting it die on Soundcloud for 4 months 

- unlisting Formation

- keeping Formation and Lemonade on Tidal

- giving up radio during the Lemonade era

- removing her name from her biggest features of the decade (Pink + White/ Hymn)

- removing her performances 

- dropping 7/11 video without the song being available to download or stream

 

What everyone wants is for her to just be normal and serve the bare minimum. Every time she lifts a finger it’s to actively try something stupid 

2 minutes ago, sillycilla said:

Who’s mad about a non existent album that most of us don’t think will happen? We’ve been dragging Bey about the present keep up..

 

homegirl came in all aggressive about the acts definitely happening because someone said they didn’t think it will lololllol 

 

Stop trying to put things on us. :gaycat7:
 

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I am speechless at how deliberately obtuse you are being for the sake of coming out on top.

 

yes you are 100% correct, and there is no next album, and B8 teaser & three acts announcement were lies, and Beyoncé is retiring after October 1 never to be seen again.

23 minutes ago, kimberly said:

that's the bare minimum for a typical pop star. not Beyoncé.

at the end of the day Beyoncé’s just a pop star, not your typical one but a pop star nonetheless. she isn’t some otherworldly being so what does a pop star like her do ? pretend to be dead while still expecting your fans to pay thousands to see you while you try to sell them overpriced ugly clothes in return ? :rip:

 

don’t perform at the vma’s then, who cares, perform somewhere else just ******* do it lol 

 

she can film herself perform pots at the piano in her backyard idc just give the fans something 

 

26 minutes ago, kimberly said:

we want her to be compared to her peers (who are all irrelevant to the GP) if you are going to compare her Spotify streams. like why did we have to read posts comparing her to Doja, Billie Eilish and Olivia Rodrigo today :biblio:

which peers ? Rihanna eats her up streaming wise but she doesn’t count apparently, same for Shakira but she doesn’t count either, Taylor doesn’t either, hive only cherry picks which peers count aka the christina’s and usher’s but like… lol ofc Beyoncé does better than them, would be even more scary if she wasn’t but that isn’t some big achievement anyone should gloat about :deadbanana4:

 

Madge at her big age bags more successful collabs nowadays than Bey does if that doesn’t make the alarms go off then idk 

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26 minutes ago, sillycilla said:

They have excuses for the excuses. Beyoncé is everything yet nothing at all at the same time lmao 
 

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2 hours ago, yonsé said:

why would act ii not be happening? can y'all be patient? we still in act i.

 

i know she ain't giving us much but like let's be serious for a minute. why would she drop a whole new act when the tour is for act i? clearly this rollout is meant to last for the next several years.

There are limits to patience

 

 I’ll patiently accept she’s going back on another extended hiatus post tour. 

12 minutes ago, kimberly said:

I am speechless at how deliberately obtuse you are being for the sake of coming out on top.

 

yes you are 100% correct, and there is no next album, and B8 teaser & three acts announcement were lies, and Beyoncé is retiring after October 1 never to be seen again.

I’m honored!!! I know logic can go over people’s heads sometimes.  I haven’t said anything different. And I’m sorry to say your argument is redundant and unnecessary. 

How are you getting upset about an opinion? Please make it make sense. How are you arguing the opinion and justifiable opinion that Beyoncé may have changed her mind? No one has said this is the absolute truth and you must believe it. People have come to that conclusion based off the past and current actions. It’s Parkwood fault there has been no communication whatsoever. 
 

So again, what is the issue here? Why would I be upset about an album not coming out when I already don’t think it will happen? I will continue the same as I’ve always been. Dragging.

 

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16 hours ago, ScorpiosGroove said:

i mean i don’t know why y'all expect Pulitzer price level lyrics on a dance album about clubbing, dicks and ass  :rip:

 

BUT it’s sure that her still trying to make swag/swaggy and slay happen in big 2023 certainly doesn’t help her back catalogue streams. Listening to her use these words just has this "old person thinks this is what young people sound like" vibe which sure we find cute or endearing but trust me the GP just finds it corny :rip: songs like Sorry are just unlistenable these days due to that and i used to LOVE sorry….

 

Another thing that doesn’t help is the fact that her features are complete ass. You got ******* Shining and Rih got Wild Thoughts lmaoo ? i know that had her Heated.mp3. Top Off ? at your big age ? :lmao: Del Restroom ? sure i like the song but nobody, certainly not Travis Scott fans, wants to hear that lol… Mi Gente ? the bars downstairs play Mi Gente 24/7 and i’ve never heard them touch that awful remix once. Savage ? aged like milk the second it came out. All those songs made 0 noise & they aren’t good either. If she was a good remix hopper à la Rihanna at least they would add something to her repertoire or help keep her fresh in the GP’s mind but all of these do the opposite….

This almost reignited the Bey vs Rih rift in my friend group at the time 😂

 

I was so mad Rih got such an obvious and effortless hit and while I like Shining, it was kinda just another flop feature in the end. 

23 minutes ago, ScorpiosGroove said:
57 minutes ago, kimberly said:

that's the bare minimum for a typical pop star. not Beyoncé.

at the end of the day Beyoncé’s just a pop star, not your typical one but a pop star nonetheless. she isn’t some otherworldly being so what does a pop star like her do ? pretend to be dead while still expecting your fans to pay thousands to see you while you try to sell them overpriced ugly clothes in return ? :rip:

 

don’t perform at the vma’s then, who cares, perform somewhere else just ******* do it lol 

 

she can film herself perform pots at the piano in her backyard idc just give the fans something 

 

57 minutes ago, kimberly said:

we want her to be compared to her peers (who are all irrelevant to the GP) if you are going to compare her Spotify streams. like why did we have to read posts comparing her to Doja, Billie Eilish and Olivia Rodrigo today :biblio:

which peers ? Rihanna eats her up streaming wise but she doesn’t count apparently, same for Shakira but she doesn’t count either, Taylor doesn’t either, hive only cherry picks which peers count aka the christina’s and usher’s but like… lol ofc Beyoncé does better than them, would be even more scary if she wasn’t but that isn’t some big achievement anyone should gloat about :deadbanana4:

 

Madge at her big age bags more successful collabs nowadays than Bey does if that doesn’t make the alarms go off then idk 

the funny thing is, she's PERFORMING. on tour.

 

Rihanna and Taylor are not her peers, I don't know how many time we'll have to discuss that. Beyoncé has 10 years on them in the industry and top of the charts.

 

Shakira counts, but she is relying on Karol G, Bizarrap, Maluma, Ozuna... whoever can bag her a hit. HOMECOMING outsold her last album, they aren't playing in the same league.

 

what successful Madonna collab are we talking about? only one of these even charted, and that one peaked lower than DELRESTO and half of RENAISSANCE album tracks.

 

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“Shakira eats her up!!1!” But where’s the quality of the music? Where are her solo songs? :katie:

12 minutes ago, Redporus said:

It takes nothing for yall to start flipping tables in here :ahh: See yall October 1!

D day!

I swear I can't listen to Kitty Kat (album version) after that amazing interlude.

 

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