14 minutes ago, cloudbusting said:

unhinged dream: get her on the silliest possible interview spot and let loose 

 

sit her ass down on a live with terri joe or something 

I once suggested she goes to Bravo’s WWHL and I was crucified. These people hate fun 

17 minutes ago, carameldelight said:

Half of us cringed when during FWT she would put the mic out for the audience to sing and a lot of people didn't know the words. For a legend her status, that's terrible. 

which also happens quite a lot during RWT let’s be real and it’s not hard to find out why 

Lemonade was a great era. The only thing that really went wrong was lack of streaming and her snatching all the performances from online the minute they were uploaded.

 

Ideally Six 6inch/Daddy Lessons/Freedom would of got moments to shine as format singles and Hold Up would of been a global unified lead instead of Sorry. It could of gone up until April 2017 in terms of full support but instead it felt like the album was commercially over by October 2016 when she released All Night

2 minutes ago, cloudbusting said:

ntm on her legendary Tyra moment

that was a mess but also a camp classic 

it’s one of her most entertaining interviews for sure, but there’s many where they just ask her awful questions while she awkwardly sits there nodding and smiling  

 

like rest assured none of us want that back nnn

I don’t even want to talk about the missed opportunity and pop masterpiece that is hold up. 

1 minute ago, sillycilla said:

I don’t even want to talk about the missed opportunity and pop masterpiece that is hold up. 

You don't have to. Just think about the missed chances called Mine and Flawless Remix, which would've been a #1 if it wasnt for the soundcloud drop

 

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hell even just a performance at the grammys and one at another streamable event would’ve been more than enough to make this "era" feel like an era 

22 minutes ago, mons†er said:

I totally can understand where you're coming from and it's valid. I do think a lot Beyonce fans want 1998-2010 Beyonce. where she's doing each and every interview, performing on every award show, sending singles to radio, etc. that woman is burned out and I don't blame her. especially the 8 years between Austin Powers-IASF. Leomande's era wasn't awful, it was just boring but it matched the album, and she also gave that MTV performance, as well as the SB. 

Is anyone doing extreme promo like in the 2000s anymore? I can’t think of one artist. Everyone is taking the less is more approach but they are doing it with intent and intelligence.

The Lemonade era wasn’t bad fan service wise until you remember the GP didn’t have access to the album and iirc Sorry was the only official single. Hold Up was picked up by radio stations on their own. She didn’t release the Daddy Lessons remix until later (it was a soundcloud exclusive) 

Her albums are masterpieces but everything else has been questionable at best. 

7 minutes ago, ScorpiosGroove said:

which also happens quite a lot during RWT let’s be real and it’s not hard to find out why 

Radio hits, BMS and cuff it being the loudest cheers. 

1 minute ago, Blue Rose said:

Is anyone doing extreme promo like in the 2000s anymore? I can’t think of one artist. Everyone is taking the less is more approach but they are doing it with intent and intelligence.

The Lemonade era wasn’t bad fan service wise until you remember the GP didn’t have access to the album and iirc Sorry was the only official single. Hold Up was picked up by radio stations on their own. She didn’t release the Daddy Lessons remix until later (it was a soundcloud exclusive) 

Her albums are masterpieces but everything else has been questionable at best. 

Dua did quite the traditional era run during FN and it was amazing

2 minutes ago, Kristie Kuwa said:

You don't have to. Just think about the missed chances called Mine and Flawless Remix, which would've been a #1 if it wasnt for the soundcloud drop

 

Girl… GURL! 
 

FORMATION! 
 

Why was the video blocked? Why was it not immediately released to iTunes or after the superbowl?!?? 
 

And it sucks that lemonade was held back for tidal but 444 was put on Spotify not too long after. Cries.

1 minute ago, carameldelight said:

Radio hits, BMS and cuff it being the loudest cheers. 

do you really think RADIO is the reason people sing "Love on Top" at the top of their lungs 

 

radio does not make or break a classic. people know the CUFF IT TikTok dance, not the radio airplay.

2 minutes ago, Kristie Kuwa said:

Dua did quite the traditional era run during FN and it was amazing

The only good woman we have left

Future Nostalgia era was incredible. That is Dua Lipa's sophomore album. compare that to B'day, not Renaissance.

4 minutes ago, kimberly said:

do you really think RADIO is the reason people sing "Love on Top" at the top of their lungs 

 

radio does not make or break a classic. people know the CUFF IT TikTok dance, not the radio airplay.

The reason why 4 does so well is because she promoted it non stop, released multiple videos, announced her pregnancy with the iconic performance of LOT, and released Live in Roseland. 

 

None of that would have happened otherwise.  The same for RTW.

 

Tiktok is where pop culture is right now, radio helped pushed cuff it to top 10. And let's be real, the dance is what started it but not what kept it going. It's not like Single ladies staple. 

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5 minutes ago, sillycilla said:

Girl… GURL! 
 

FORMATION! 
 

Why was the video blocked? Why was it not immediately released to iTunes or after the superbowl?!?? 
 

And it sucks that lemonade was held back for tidal but 444 was put on Spotify not too long after. Cries.

A song that gets outstreamed by Delresto shouldnt be mentioned any longer. The hurt is too deep

Just now, carameldelight said:

The reason why 4 does so well is because she promoted it non stop, released multiple videos, announced her pregnancy with the iconic performance of LOT, and released Live in Roseland. 

 

None of that would have happened otherwise. 

yes absolutely. radio has little to do with Love on Top's legacy. 

 

we've already established she isn't willing to do a promo run anymore. I would have LOVED to see a live performance of Renaissance, but maybe she didn't want it to impact tour ticket sales and all. I get that.

 

we could have at least gotten a cute CUFF IT performance at the Grammys. or an interview with Oprah or something. I'm definitely not saying I enjoyed getting nothing besides the album from her. 

Millions of people still turn on the radio every day. If they aren’t listening to the local stations, they are listening to SiriusXM or whatever that’s called. Bluetooth and Aux cords are still a small portion of the pie. We can’t blindly dismiss it just because Bey has.

The reason why Spotify updates are abysmal on weekends is because the GP aren’t listening to music on weekends. Most people rely on radio to know new songs. Heck even I discover some songs via radio and I barely listen to it 

19 minutes ago, ScorpiosGroove said:

but that’s the thing cause i f.e wasn’t a stan STAN until Selftitled and to me Lemonade were both a perfect album and era, and gave me everything i need from her : great music and mindblowing performances 

 

sure 2003-2011 Bey was fun bc she was everywhere but i’ll gladly take 6-7 10/10 performances like Lemonade’s than a ton of throwaway performances that are good but not 10/10’s coupled with jumpscare interviews with Tyra 

 

i wouldn’t have anything negative to say about this era if we had just gotten music videos/the film, at least 4-5 amazing performances & one more single and not over a year of silence…

ahh now your pov makes sense. 

13 minutes ago, Kristie Kuwa said:

Thats not true. I don't want that Bey back. I want a SMART beyonce. Shes acting dumb imho.

 

1 professional Interview with the best interviewer focussing on the music only.

 

BTS to the production of Renaissance 

 

TinyDesk or an Evening with Beyoncé as a setup, Renaissance only. All on her terms.

 

1 big televised/streamable performance

 

Immediate Access, Availability and transparency when it comes to singles/performances/interviews (stop that hiding/withholding bs).

 

Active use of social media during album era (including TikTok).

 

-> thats too much to ask for?

 

for a woman with 3 kids and a camel I think it is. 

7 minutes ago, kimberly said:

Future Nostalgia era was incredible. That is Dua Lipa's sophomore album. compare that to B'day, not Renaissance.

Again no one is asking for FN level of promo. And even though Dua did a lot, it was spread over 2/3 years. Beyoncé gave us a year of complete silence. Let’s meet somewhere in the middle 

 

social media (excluding YouTube) and radio have the same weight, basically.

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1 minute ago, kimberly said:

yes absolutely. radio has little to do with Love on Top's legacy. 

 

we've already established she isn't willing to do a promo run anymore. I would have LOVED to see a live performance of Renaissance, but maybe she didn't want it to impact tour ticket sales and all. I get that.

 

we could have at least gotten a cute CUFF IT performance at the Grammys. or an interview with Oprah or something. I'm definitely not saying I enjoyed getting nothing besides the album from her. 

LOT was definitely an adult contemporary staple, just like Love On The Brain. Radio played a role in instigating and creating it's legacy & they treated it like her last big pop hit for the whole 2010s.

 

If it hadn't been a single & sent to radio do we think, LOT would have the same Legacy?

 

Just now, Otter said:

LOT was definitely an adult contemporary staple, just like Love On The Brain. Radio played a role in instigating and creating it's legacy & they treated it like her last big pop hit for the whole 2010s.

 

If it hadn't been a single & sent to radio do we think, LOT would have the same Legacy?

Love on Top did not even chart on Adult Contemporary radio. it was an Adult R&B airplay #1 hit, sure, but so was Make Me Say It Again Girl from last year. do we think that'll have the same legacy and impact? Love on Top never cracked Top 50 on Pop radio either. 

 

it's a massive classic because of the moments she created and the timeless quality of the song. not because it reached #1 on a radio format with less than 10 million weekly listeners.

12 minutes ago, kimberly said:

 

This infographic doesn’t tell the entire story for several reasons. Radio plays aren’t counted in most countries and there are 7 billions other people not using any streaming services. Even with all of these shortcomings, 17% is still the second best after Streaming.

Radio is still a very powerful tool and she isnt using it. It will never change how much us stans love and listen to her music but it’s a big problem for the GP. There’s a reason why all those football players keep choosing Single Ladies as their favorite song. They just don’t know anything else  

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