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Beyoncé

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Yeah, gonna need something from this heffa soon lol. The way her peers keep borrowing and building upon her moves in a better/neater way is starting to annoy me to no end. Specifically Ms. Swift. 

 

All petty debates aside, she just announced her tour film and has it going into theaters. Which I believe immediately means it can be in contention for a broader set of awards. 

 

I don't like to get into the comparison side of things too much, as both artists have their own unique brands and what works for one isn't always the exact same that would work for the other. 

 

However, sometimes it's a case of calling a spade a spade. Bey gifted the modern industry at large these surprise drop, visual albums, documentary, and concert film templates. And while she'll forever get her props for innovating those mediums (and in many ways is unrivalable because of that), it's crazy to see her not reap the fullness of that in the here and now while her direct peers do.

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Taylor swift having her concert film shown in cinemas, why can we never have nice tings like this... :gaycat6:

 

Perhaps she deserves to be out-grossed by somebody with that level of talent afterall. I hope Yvette informs her of this fact to make her blood boil. 

Ch... I'm going to start reporting you guys for bringing up other artists. :laugh:

 

Be happy for others. You can't be mad at other artists for taking things further just like we can't be mad at Alexander Graham Bell for taking things further and giving us the telephone. 

Enjoy the outfits! 

9 hours ago, giRLbye. said:

idk why yall keep entertaining that wolf in sheep's clothing in here with all its weird underhanded posts

 

its so blatant now

Oh I thought I was sensitive hive :nicole:

9 hours ago, bijonse said:

Username is literally fleahive they’re making fun of us 

I’m making fun of me actually. I am the flea amongst the bees but we are still on the same team!

12 minutes ago, BnPac said:

Ch... I'm going to start reporting you guys for bringing up other artists. :laugh:

 

Be happy for others. You can't be mad at other artists for taking things further just like we can't be mad at Alexander Graham Bell for taking things further and giving us the telephone. 

Enjoy the outfits! 

We're more than 1 year into Renaissance and we've had no music videos, barely a single after release (due to tik tok mostly), no televised performances, no docu series/commentary & making of, no intl dates & no sign of concert special in sight and God knows if we'll ever see those music videos too.

 

We're not mad at other artists, great for them that they put the work in and deliver experiences for their fans. It's Beyonce herself to be mad at for this nonsense. 

 

The fact that it's been radio silence since the album release and the only way you can get a piece of content is through an insanely priced tour (that might not even visit your continent) is outrageous. 

 

But sure, let's enjoy the pictures of her (ugly) fits on her website!

 

 

Edited by AxelFox

I am here to stay! Thank you to my fans that have messaged me telling me how over dramatic these weirdos are. How dare I critique and comment on the queen while others do the same talking about the same stale topics! I keep this base refreshing and active and we WILL get more pages than Gaga on my watch. Now go back to complaining about outfits and what songs from old albums you like or dislike for the millionth time :ducky:

Just now, AxelFox said:

We're more than 1 year into Renaissance and we've had no music videos, barely a single after release (due to tik tok mostly), no televised performances, no docu series/commentary & making of, no intl dates & no sign of concert special in sight and God knows if we'll ever see those music videos too.

 

We're not mad at other artists, great for them that they put the work in and deliver experiences for their fans. It's Beyonce herself to be mad at for this nonsense. 

 

The fact that it's been radio silence since the album release and the only way you can get a piece of content is through an insanely priced tour (that might no even come on your continent) is outrageous. 

 

But sure, let's enjoy the picture of her (ugly) fits on her website!

 

 

You made a great point idk why we can’t have conversations on her marketing. Naturally the topic of other artists will come about and that’s okay. 

I had spent like 3 weeks without listening to Renaissance except AHAP (duh!). I hit play on the album this morning and I thought to myself that's probably how coke addicts feel when they fall back into that bad habit and take a little of coke just to taste. I don't know but I felt it in my spirit!! I even enjoyed CI. 

6 minutes ago, AxelFox said:

We're more than 1 year into Renaissance and we've had no music videos, barely a single after release (due to tik tok mostly), no televised performances, no docu series/commentary & making of, no intl dates & no sign of concert special in sight and God knows if we'll ever see those music videos too.

 

We're not mad at other artists, great for them that they put the work in and deliver experiences for their fans. It's Beyonce herself to be mad at for this nonsense. 

 

The fact that it's been radio silence since the album release and the only way you can get a piece of content is through an insanely priced tour (that might not even visit your continent) is outrageous. 

 

But sure, let's enjoy the pictures of her (ugly) fits on her website!

 

 

Right. 

 

How weird to report when the conversation was respectful to both artists and contextually still about Bey? 

 

The reality of the matter is that Bey (as an artist) does not exist in a bubble or on her own island. She exists within an industry that is populated with other artists. Highlighting that she popularized formats that other big acts are building upon while we wait for something (anything) in this weird window of silence is not shade to anyone. It's a fair and factual observation. 

 

Again, odd behavior IMO @BnPac 

Other fanbases getting fed by their faves and we are still playing clue on if the tour will even extend or if we will get a music video. Clearly the era is over with no new single imo.

 

Oh look, Beyoncé posted more photos on insta. :coffee2:

Edited by sillycilla

It was a joke hence the smiley. But you should refrain from that however respectful that might be to you. We end up with Hives dissing other artists here, then other stanbases invading the base and some telling everyone to go stan someone else. 

 

It's just better to focus on Bey. Although even that is not exactly allowed here. 

Edited by BnPac

You guys are still wanting to be "fed" the same way other pop stans are? At this point you really ought to mentally divest from Beyonce. I have absolute faith in the abundance of quality work we'll receive in the long run but that month to month excitement of new things to consume, is clearly not on the cards.


I'm actually suprised people are complaining about nothing happening in the middle of the tour, I thought the tour was that "thing" :)

Edited by Otter

I mean it's silly to say things like Bey's blood will boil when she hears about Taylor's concert film. Do you really think this isn't something she's considered as a possibility? It's not the first time an artist has done this.

 

Her brand strategy is to make her feel like premium content that's not easily accessible to the masses. Which I find to be nonsense in the field of pop music personally, but to her credit she's never been in danger of being overexposed since she started doing this in 2013ish despite remaining massively culturally relevant. The closest she got was Lemonade/EIL, but I personally don't think people were tired of her, they were tired of being forced on Jay's redemption tour after she had just put him on blast.

 

Other artists can't really say the same and I think some are currently catapulting toward overexposure.

10 minutes ago, Otter said:

You guys are still wanting to be "fed" the same way other pop stans are? At this point you really ought to mentally de-invest from Beyonce. I have absolute faith in the abundance of quality work we'll receive in the long run but that month to month excitement of new things to consume, is clearly not on the cards.


I'm actually suprised people are complaining about nothing happening in the middle of the tour, I thought the tour was that "thing" :)

They need more artists to be faves of tbh, follow someone else who is more active idk 

I stream her discography almost daily :michael:

7 minutes ago, Otter said:

You guys are still wanting to be "fed" the same way other pop stans are? At this point you really ought to mentally de-invest from Beyonce. I have absolute faith in the abundance of quality work we'll receive in the long run but that month to month excitement of new things to consume, is clearly not on the cards.


I'm actually suprised people are complaining about nothing happening in the middle of the tour, I thought the tour was that "thing" :)

Good luck booking the abundance you speak of :deadbanana4: 

 

Also the issue is not that nothing is happening during the tour; it's the fact that NOTHING happened for almost a year before the tour started and there's no sign of anything happening after the tour ends either. 

26 minutes ago, Otter said:

You guys are still wanting to be "fed" the same way other pop stans are? At this point you really ought to mentally de-invest from Beyonce. I have absolute faith in the abundance of quality work we'll receive in the long run but that month to month excitement of new things to consume, is clearly not on the cards.


I'm actually suprised people are complaining about nothing happening in the middle of the tour, I thought the tour was that "thing" :)

I can't speak for others, but I'm actually not fussed about the lack of month-to-month activity. 

 

Like you rightfully said, she's not abiding by the usual rules anymore and it's clear she's taking this era a step at a time with no mix-match nor cross-pollination of its pillars. We got the album. We're getting the tour. And presumably will get the "etc" after that. I get that memo loud and clear.

 

I think it's the occasional (and fair) realizations that a) we're going on a year and a half since the album dropped (which is testing me as an ultimate optimist) and b) in being aware of happenings in the industry at large, there will quite naturally be developments and frames that make the silence with Bey all the more grating because - in a sense - those moves from others feel like hers for the taking.

 

Bey would excel with a concert film in theaters (stans have been wanting that for years). Bey would excel with a stadium-type launch for an album in the way that crazy man pulled off semi-recently. Bey essentially is the genesis for these types of drops in this era and we're currently in the midst of having to watch others win with it.

 

I have faith in what's to come and do suspect there will be some kind of "ohhhhh, so that's what she was cooking up". But it's pretty natural to be slightly jarred in the here and now. 

Edited by Cbreezy

Honestly we should be looking at stanning other younger and more vibrant acts than Bey. On my part I haven't found another artist I could even pretend to stan. Before Bey I stanned Mariah, Whitney and Janet but I feel Bey has ruined me for other artists. No one is remotely close to GIVING what I require....

 

So, I have made a playlist of her songs that I feel would influence act ii. They're not country songs. She didn't do a lot of country inspired music before. Act ii won't even be pure country. As many of us are sure, it would be huge celebration of southern African American music, including country music, but with a Beyoncé twist. It would still fit her traditional R&B and hiphop vibes, just like act i. I do believe act ii songs would be different from those I have in the list, but they are just something I feel that could inspire them, or have a similar vibe. Some song are here because of their themes, some because of their instruments, some because of their vocals and some because of the genre. I'm sure there's gonna be a lot of her doing "RAH" and "HEEAY" and "WHO" and "OUH". I used the studio versions for most of the tracks, but I mostly used them because of their live versions. For example, I used WDYLM because of the Mrs. Carter Show version, but we don't have a recording of that, so... But, here's the list

  1. Daddy Lessons 
  2. Irreplaceable
  3. Suga Mama 
  4. Work It Out
  5. Why Don’t You Love Me 
  6. Bug a Boo (H-Town Screwed Remix) 
  7. Hold Up
  8. Freedom (feat. Kendrick Lamar) 
  9. All Night 
  10. Formation
  11. No Angel 
  12. Savage Remix (Megan Thee Stallion feat. Beyoncé) 
  13. Church Girl 
  14. Bootylicious
  15. Welcome - Homecoming Live 
  16. Crazy In Love - Homecoming Live 
  17. Kitty Kat - Homecoming Live 
  18. Countdown - Homecoming Live 
  19. Deja Vu (feat. Jay Z) - Homecoming Live 
  20. The Bzzzz Drumline - Homecoming Live 
  21. Get Me Bodied - Homecoming Live 
  22. Single Ladies (Put a Ring on It) - Homecoming Live 
  23. Deja Vu Jazz Medley 
  24. Daddy Lessons Remix
31 minutes ago, sillycilla said:

Other fanbases getting fed by their faves and we are still playing clue on if the tour will even extend or if we will get a music video. Clearly the era is over with no new single imo.

 

Oh look, Beyoncé posted more photos on insta. :coffee2:

WHY DON’T YOU GO STAN THOSE OTHER PEOPLE THEN IF QUEEN BEYONCÉ ISN’T ENOUGH FOR YOU ??? 

 

Spoiler

:-*

7 minutes ago, Yonceage said:

Honestly we should be looking at stanning other younger and more vibrant acts than Bey. On my part I haven't found another artist I could even pretend to stan. Before Bey I stanned Mariah, Whitney and Janet but I feel Bey has ruined me for other artists. No one is remotely close to GIVING what I require....

 

Right there's absolutely no way I'll ever stan anyone ever again. I love many artists ranging from Mariah to Madonna but I don't even follow them on Instagram, let alone follow their every career move.

 

I only use ATRL for Bey because there's no way to keep up with rumors or her career unless you put a little effort in. She doesn't even make it easy to find out when she drops music :rip: The fact she teased the era by putting up brief pages on her website saying what is B7 is just so :deadbanana4:

 

Besides, who is younger that's even worth stanning? I really like Dua Lipa but not enough to care about what her next album is gonna sound like until it gets here. And the rest of the field beyond that is just depressingly bland tbh

Edited by ShouldersSideways

4 minutes ago, Yonceage said:

Honestly we should be looking at stanning other younger and more vibrant acts than Bey. On my part I haven't found another artist I could even pretend to stan. Before Bey I stanned Mariah, Whitney and Janet but I feel Bey has ruined me for other artists. No one is remotely close to GIVING what I require....

 

Same.

 

With Bey sitting at the top of my Mount Rushmore of active artists (because her ultimate faves are equally mine), I really was willing success for the new school e.g. Normani, Chloe, and co. But between label issues, delays (Normani), and Chloe's clear talent being overshadowed by meh music and unfair blowback, our tortuous fave seems like the only available outlet for the brand of artist I go up for. So wait we must lol. 

14 minutes ago, AxelFox said:

Good luck booking the abundance you speak of :deadbanana4: 

 

Also the issue is not that nothing is happening during the tour; it's the fact that NOTHING happened for almost a year before the tour started and there's no sign of anything happening after the tour ends either. 

We can't keep complaining about the pre-tour drought, we're almost in 2024 :redface:

There is plenty sign of things happening after the tour. Didn't she just release a song/feature which is 70% her vocals a few weeks back which opened the whole echoville can of worms/eastereggs? Sure she hasn't announced a release date for act ii or visuals but they've been reinforced that they're coming. There is every indication something is coming after the tour. Especially given her history of typically not giving any indication before something dropping

things that are coming
-Visuals
-New hair related product line :) 
-New Parfume :)
-Echoville trademarks

Whether that's the final night of the tour, the month of november or early/spring 2024... who knows 

Edited by Otter

8 minutes ago, ShouldersSideways said:

I mean it's silly to say things like Bey's blood will boil when she hears about Taylor's concert film. Do you really think this isn't something she's considered as a possibility? It's not the first time an artist has done this.

 

Her brand strategy is to make her feel like premium content that's not easily accessible to the masses. Which I find to be nonsense in the field of pop music personally, but to her credit she's never been in danger of being overexposed since she started doing this in 2013ish despite remaining massively culturally relevant. The closest she got was Lemonade/EIL, but I personally don't think people were tired of her, they were tired of being forced on Jay's redemption tour after she had just put him on blast.

 

Other artists can't really say the same and I think some are currently catapulting toward overexposure.

I was not referring to the concert film making her blood boil, but to the fact that she is being outgrossed by someone who performs like that. :eli: 

 

Also, her brand strategy can't be premium content that's not easily accessible if there's NO CONTENT in the first place. 

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