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Beyoncé

This is part 1 of the Beyoncé discussion.

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I thought it was the standard for most stadium tours, dates are spread out 3-5 days apart mainly bc production, equipment traveling, and other scheduled events. 
 

i think this injury also gives her extra time to rest. :michael:

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14 minutes ago, Devin said:

I thought it was the standard for most stadium tours, dates are spread out 3-5 days apart mainly bc production, equipment traveling, and other scheduled events. 
 

i think this injury also gives her extra time to rest. :michael:

I'm currently watching her I Am... Tour and it's crazy to think she would do these dates back to back to back... I don't think it's healthy for an artist.

And don't get me started on this Freakum Dress performance that makes me think that's why she ****** up her knee!! :weeps:

 

 

like tf??

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2 minutes ago, Tangane said:

I'm currently watching her I Am... Tour and it's crazy to think she would do these dates back to back to back... I don't think it's healthy for an artist.

And don't get me started on this Freakum Dress performance that makes me think that's why she ****** up her knee!! :weeps:

 

 

like tf??

!!!


also I wish Freakum Dress was on this setlist it def fit the vibe of RWT. :monkey:

18 minutes ago, Tangane said:

I'm currently watching her I Am... Tour and it's crazy to think she would do these dates back to back to back... I don't think it's healthy for an artist.

And don't get me started on this Freakum Dress performance that makes me think that's why she ****** up her knee!! :weeps:

 

 

like tf??

all in ******* 6 inch heels :rip:

38 minutes ago, AxelFox said:

Wasn't 2nd Stockholm show to Brussels 2 days as well?

Oops, you're right. In my mind she performed Saturday 

I really wanted to sell my Amsterdam Gold Circle tickets and get CR instead but there's nothing left

 

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1 minute ago, Mitsouko said:

I really wanted to sell my Amsterdam Gold Circle tickets and get CR instead but there's nothing left

 

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Just do gold circle and record the entire live feed from your side of the screen and upload it on google drive for the rest of us too :-*

9 minutes ago, AxelFox said:

Just do gold circle and record the entire live feed from your side of the screen and upload it on google drive for the rest of us too :-*

That's why I want to change! If I stay in gold circle I fear I'll be too close to the screen, and the screen will look like this to me dzfY1Ck.gif

6 minutes ago, Mitsouko said:

That's why I want to change! If I stay in gold circle I fear I'll be too close to the screen, and the screen will look like this to me dzfY1Ck.gif

Nnn I didn't think of this :ahh: 

4 minutes ago, AxelFox said:

Nnn I didn't think of this :ahh: 

Honestly from where I was last time, my view of both the stage and screen were unbeatable. It was like being at the best cinema on earth. I want to replicate that :WAP:

Do you all think Beyoncé took note of the "hater" perception that she's too queen/goddess-like and therefore unrelatable and adjusted it a bit? Or just a coincidence that she's SO abundantly joyful and down to Earth this tour?

 

Because part of me suspects, the perfectionist that she is, that she's adjusted her image just slightly enough to humour the people who maybe didn't get the goddess image. I don't think she cares per se, but I do think she enjoys proving people wrong. To me it seems like that image served its purpose in the Lemonade and on-wards eras when she was being branded both by her work and her image as a legend. Now that this is pretty undeniable, she can go back to a more humble approach. She doesn't need to be FIERCE-FIERCE-FIERCE, she can also have fun. Her RWT Crazy in Love choreography is just that, her BEAMING instead of projecting the sexy/sultry goddess that we've seen in the Super Bowls, etc.

 

The fact that she basically walks out on stage by herself without a big and dramatic lead-up like other tours and then does ballads points to this slight change in overall image. imo, the entrance sets the stage (literally) for the rest.

 

 

Edited by swissman

24 minutes ago, Mitsouko said:

That's why I want to change! If I stay in gold circle I fear I'll be too close to the screen, and the screen will look like this to me dzfY1Ck.gif

esjnfvsdkjgnvdskjgv :ahh:

 

But for real, you're saying if i'm in the Gold Circle is better if i stay a bit further away from the main stage?

Just now, MrPiggyMoka said:

esjnfvsdkjgnvdskjgv :ahh:

 

But for real, you're saying if i'm in the Gold Circle is better if i stay a bit further away from the main stage?

Probably. I may be wrong and I'd love to hear from someone who was in that section, maybe it's not so bad after all. But I'd prefer to be a little farther back.

20 minutes ago, swissman said:

Do you all think Beyoncé took note of the "hater" perception that she's too queen/goddess-like and therefore unrelatable and adjusted it a bit? Or just a coincidence that she's SO abundantly joyful and down to Earth this tour?

 

Because part of me suspects, the perfectionist that she is, that she's adjusted her image just slightly enough to humour the people who maybe didn't get the goddess image. I don't think she cares per se, but I do think she enjoys proving people wrong. To me it seems like that image served its purpose in the Lemonade and on-wards eras when she was being branded both by her work and her image as a legend. Now that this is pretty undeniable, she can go back to a more humble approach. She doesn't need to be FIERCE-FIERCE-FIERCE, she can also have fun. Her RWT Crazy in Love choreography is just that, her BEAMING instead of projecting the sexy/sultry goddess that we've seen in the Super Bowls, etc.

 

The fact that she basically walks out on stage by herself without a big and dramatic lead-up like other tours and then does ballads points to this slight change in overall image. imo, the entrance sets the stage (literally) for the rest.

 

 


no.

 

it’s a fun, campy album and her performance is matching that vibe. 

24 minutes ago, swissman said:

Do you all think Beyoncé took note of the "hater" perception that she's too queen/goddess-like and therefore unrelatable and adjusted it a bit? Or just a coincidence that she's SO abundantly joyful and down to Earth this tour?

 

Because part of me suspects, the perfectionist that she is, that she's adjusted her image just slightly enough to humour the people who maybe didn't get the goddess image. I don't think she cares per se, but I do think she enjoys proving people wrong. To me it seems like that image served its purpose in the Lemonade and on-wards eras when she was being branded both by her work and her image as a legend. Now that this is pretty undeniable, she can go back to a more humble approach. She doesn't need to be FIERCE-FIERCE-FIERCE, she can also have fun. Her RWT Crazy in Love choreography is just that, her BEAMING instead of projecting the sexy/sultry goddess that we've seen in the Super Bowls, etc.

 

The fact that she basically walks out on stage by herself without a big and dramatic lead-up like other tours and then does ballads points to this slight change in overall image. imo, the entrance sets the stage (literally) for the rest.

 

 

It's a mixture of things 

1. She feels more comfortable in her skin (pun intended) this tour, and seems much happier/less stressed than usual

2. she isn't doing as much choreo, so interacting with fans helps the show be more engaging

3. she is aware of the perception that she doesn't interact with fans/show her personality and wants to change that

17 minutes ago, giRLbye. said:


no.

 

it’s a fun, campy album and her performance is matching that vibe. 

I guess? I mean it's certainly a fun album but there is also an inherent seriousness to it as well and nothing about the album art or anything we've seen prior to this has been centred on "fun". The visuals we've seen have been sophisticated, slick, and even at her most colourful (Vogue UK announcement spread) still rather austere and emotionless. It's not hard to have imagined a version of this tour that was much more strict insofar as emotions and more focused on a sort of untouchable pop image. As mentioned, I think her basically strutting out by herself with all the lights up is her most humble entrance...ever? I mean even on her first tour, before she had anything close to a "Queenly" image, she was being carried to the stage Cleopatra-style.

 

I'm not accusing her of switching it up to please people, but do think that Beyoncé is a MASTER of her image and knows when and how to ever so slightly change things in order to accomplish whatever her goal is, which now seems to be having fun with the fans and GP in an era where so far there has been not much communication/shared experience. To me it reads possibly like: I know what the critiques about me are, and I'm going to show you that is not the case.

 

Edited by swissman

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33 minutes ago, swissman said:

Do you all think Beyoncé took note of the "hater" perception that she's too queen/goddess-like and therefore unrelatable and adjusted it a bit? Or just a coincidence that she's SO abundantly joyful and down to Earth this tour?

 

Because part of me suspects, the perfectionist that she is, that she's adjusted her image just slightly enough to humour the people who maybe didn't get the goddess image. I don't think she cares per se, but I do think she enjoys proving people wrong. To me it seems like that image served its purpose in the Lemonade and on-wards eras when she was being branded both by her work and her image as a legend. Now that this is pretty undeniable, she can go back to a more humble approach. She doesn't need to be FIERCE-FIERCE-FIERCE, she can also have fun. Her RWT Crazy in Love choreography is just that, her BEAMING instead of projecting the sexy/sultry goddess that we've seen in the Super Bowls, etc.

 

The fact that she basically walks out on stage by herself without a big and dramatic lead-up like other tours and then does ballads points to this slight change in overall image. imo, the entrance sets the stage (literally) for the rest.

 

 

I believe its a mixture. 
 

Every artist listens to feedback from their audience (and dedicated haters). The album theme itself is very happy, celebrating life post-pandemic peak and her late Uncle. Some of those shady remarks prob influenced her a bit on tour to show she can be personable/human and still put on a typical Bey-production. 

13 minutes ago, PrettyHurts said:

It's a mixture of things 

1. She feels more comfortable in her skin (pun intended) this tour, and seems much happier/less stressed than usual

2. she isn't doing as much choreo, so interacting with fans helps the show be more engaging

3. she is aware of the perception that she doesn't interact with fans/show her personality and wants to change that

well said... and I agree, I don't think it's explicitly that she wants to change a perception but that it fits in to a larger picture as well.

5 minutes ago, Devin said:

I believe its a mixture. 
 

Every artist listens to feedback from their audience (and dedicated haters). The album theme itself is very happy, celebrating life post-pandemic peak and her late Uncle. Some of those shady remarks prob influenced her a bit on tour to show she can be personable/human and still put on a typical Bey-production. 

Yes this makes sense. It does feel like a rather stark departure from how hands-off and detached she has been from the album/music, so maybe that's also it. Either way I am so glad to see she is having fun. Sometimes with all the ferocity you can't tell. I remember when I saw her in 2009 I thought she seemed upset, but...she was probably just in the Sasha-Zone.

50 minutes ago, swissman said:

Do you all think Beyoncé took note of the "hater" perception that she's too queen/goddess-like and therefore unrelatable and adjusted it a bit? Or just a coincidence that she's SO abundantly joyful and down to Earth this tour?

 

Because part of me suspects, the perfectionist that she is, that she's adjusted her image just slightly enough to humour the people who maybe didn't get the goddess image. I don't think she cares per se, but I do think she enjoys proving people wrong. To me it seems like that image served its purpose in the Lemonade and on-wards eras when she was being branded both by her work and her image as a legend. Now that this is pretty undeniable, she can go back to a more humble approach. She doesn't need to be FIERCE-FIERCE-FIERCE, she can also have fun. Her RWT Crazy in Love choreography is just that, her BEAMING instead of projecting the sexy/sultry goddess that we've seen in the Super Bowls, etc.

 

The fact that she basically walks out on stage by herself without a big and dramatic lead-up like other tours and then does ballads points to this slight change in overall image. imo, the entrance sets the stage (literally) for the rest.

 

 

Without elaborating on other points made by others, I fully believe that she has.

 

Beyonce is VERY in tune with us online, she knows what we talk about, and how we feel about things, she references it often.  I do think she takes our concerns and truly address them in some capacities, or she has a team that monitors her online fandom, and adjusts to that.  For anyone to deny that, it is strange.  Do I think she cares what we think? Absolutely, BECAUSE she's such a perfectionist.  Do I think she adjusts the way she wants to do what she wants to do, and display her art because of us?  No. 

 

I know for sure her team must watch and monitor us here, for instance, when Partition was blocked for months and months (while it was a single) on YouTube due to age restriction, I finally complained about it, about her team not fixing the issue, and the following day, after months, it was resolved.  Things like that have happened. 

25 minutes ago, swissman said:

I'm not accusing her of switching it up to please people, but do think that Beyoncé is a MASTER of her image and knows when and how to ever so slightly change things in order to accomplish whatever her goal is, which now seems to be having fun with the fans and GP in an era where so far there has been not much communication/shared experience. To me it reads possibly like: I know what the critiques about me are, and I'm going to show you that is not the case.

 

She also seems to be launching a new brand where it might be necessary for her engage in a different way as other have mentioned 

8 minutes ago, Lose My Breath said:

Without elaborating on other points made by others, I fully believe that she has.

 

Beyonce is VERY in tune with us online, she knows what we talk about, and how we feel about things, she references it often.  I do think she takes our concerns and truly address them in some capacities, or she has a team that monitors her online fandom, and adjusts to that.  For anyone to deny that, it is strange.  Do I think she cares what we think? Absolutely, BECAUSE she's such a perfectionist.  Do I think she adjusts the way she wants to do what she wants to do, and display her art because of us?  No. 

 

I know for sure her team must watch and monitor us here, for instance, when Partition was blocked for months and months (while it was a single) on YouTube due to age restriction, I finally complained about it, about her team not fixing the issue, and the following day, after months, it was resolved.  Things like that have happened. 

Ya I definitely think she must have a team dedicated to monitoring how she is perceived in order at the very least, to know. Her mentioning that focus group for IASF that said they don't like black-and-white photography is a hint towards such a thing (though a bit different), BUT now that she's in full control with her own production company and after having worked with people on her brand before, I can't imagine they simply don't keep track at all about how the internet talks about her. Whatever conclusion or decision she wants to draw is up to her...like, still using black-and-white photography to prove them wrong, but ya it does seem to me like she's aware and that it's not just a complete coincidence that she's a bit more personable on stage than she has been in the past. And as you said, she is a perfectionist. If there is one area that she could improve, she's going to take the chance to do so.

 

 

Edited by swissman

Nah, if they cared what fans think we would have had an official second single by now and a video. 

14 minutes ago, black-star1 said:

She also seems to be launching a new brand where it might be necessary for her engage in a different way as other have mentioned 

THIS is more likely why.

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