1 hour ago, Punch said:

For sure !!  What do you mean with the bold part exactly ( Isnt clear to me )  ?

As in there was “Club Renaissance” events all around the world from to the Americas to Europe to Asia. There was a significance behind it all me thinks (with cam crews and all). I’m convinced she’s allowing the fans to be a part of the visuals to a degree so that it feels more personable or organic when (or if ) we ever get them. Her private birthday party was another instance. 

Please enough with the mental

gymnastics, Beyoncé performing there is not gonna miraculously save the Grammys and give them enough ratings to carry on for years ahead, be real  They're not 'inviting her to snub her' just to save their show ffs. The show organizers have probably little to do with the voting results anyway. 

 

A performance would benefit her and her fans more than it would benefit the show itself. Just look at the effect Dubai had, imagine what a televised performance going viral would cause on social media. The exposure the show itself gets would be minimal to the exposure SHE gets. Heck by the time things explode the show is over anyway and people just check the aftermath online. 

We mean something to her, is she supposed to invite us into her home in order for her to prove that? All artists that work for money are ultimately self serving, they can still care about their fans. Maybe she doesn’t care for some in particular because of their not so beneath the surface dislike towards her, that’s probably the energy some of you feel 

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3 minutes ago, AxelFox said:

Please enough with the mental

gymnastics, Beyoncé performing there is not gonna miraculously save the Grammys and give them enough ratings to carry on for years ahead, be real  They're not 'inviting her to snub her' just to save their show ffs. The show organizers have probably little to do with the voting results anyway. 

 

A performance would benefit her and her fans more than it would benefit the show itself. Just look at the effect Dubai had, imagine what a televised performance going viral would cause on social media. The exposure the show itself gets would be minimal to the exposure SHE gets. Heck by the time things explode the show is over anyway and people just check the aftermath online. 

Nah but if she didn’t perform with megan I don’t think she’s performing this time either. I think her own performance somewhere vevo presents/tiny desk style would have the same effect and she could control every bit of the staging and all that 

 

Fr fr i could see her walking on stage getting her award and leaving early to go to her huge after party where she’ll wear a better dress than to the Grammys anyways, all of this coming right after the tour announcement earlier that day 

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Just now, bijonse said:

Nah but if she didn’t perform with megan I don’t think she’s performing this time either. I think her own performance somewhere vevo presents/tiny desk style would have the same effect and she could control every bit of the staging and all that 

Yes it would, buy she's clearly not doing that either so now what?

 

She didn't perform with Meghan cause  she was barely active that year and was only a feature on her remix. This year she released her first studio album in 6 years, is the most nominated artist, and has not done anything else for it in half a year despite claiming there's 'more to come'. I refuse to believe she's THAT stuck up in her 'mystique' shenanigans. She will go there and she will perform.

 

If she really disappeared for half a year and ignored her fans after an album release just to perform at an elite private event for a $25 million cheque and then announce an expensive ass tour right away without doing anything else then she deserves all the lashings and backlash she will get. 
 

Yes, we are not entitled to 'dictate' her life or anything else from her really. But she is also not entitled to having such a loyal following, reverence and respect without giving anything in return. It's hard work, ethics and talent that put her where she is currently in the first place. And there's been no display of any of that since the album released. 

And I really don't understand y'alls disdain for the Grammy show. 
 

It is infuriating that she's been snubbed for amazing bodies of work that were the most deserving of that award their respective years, yes. But that is a problem with the industry at whole and not with the show itself. 
 

It's not like there's 25-50 people who organize this thing and decide who gets what award and not. There's literally tens of thousands of voters. The show is simply there to put a spectacle and celebrate that year on music. Y'all should see it as a performance like any other. 

yeah if bey isn’t performing but jay out of all people is… i’m k wording myself in front of her and take her ass right with me to hell 

 

7 hours ago, HEATED said:

IF BEYONCÉ DOES NOT PERFORM 

The last straw

 

 

 

why does she love starving us of content like this

1 hour ago, bijonse said:

We mean something to her, is she supposed to invite us into her home in order for her to prove that? All artists that work for money are ultimately self serving, they can still care about their fans. Maybe she doesn’t care for some in particular because of their not so beneath the surface dislike towards her, that’s probably the energy some of you feel 

But how do u know? Based on 2000s Bey?

In the 2020s, Beys actions regarding her fans speak a very loud and clear language. It is what it is tho obviously and she can do as she pleases. 

Also again, why this stupid jab at me again? Is it really necessary? Cant u make a point without coming for me?

 

Anyway, fans hoping to see her perform her new material after 7 months of silence is not them being too entitled. Get a grip 

Eh, I haven't written off the Grammys based of HDD

But the way the base flip flopped from "delay the tour so you're fully recovered", to "where is the performance!? Why don't you care about your fans" 

Anyway, I think its likely that Beyonce was including a potential Grammy performance in her rehearsals for Dubai and her decision to perform is still undecided. It'd be disappointing but the main win for us remains the tour announcement.

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The way some of y'all forgot that she was limping last week, not at all surprising if she doesn't want to give a televised performance

4 minutes ago, Otter said:

The way some of y'all forgot that she was limping last week, not at all surprising if she doesn't want to give a televised performance

Precious Lord certainly demanded a lot of movement

7 hours ago, kimberly said:

sorry for changing the subject but since Chlöe announced her debut album for a March release, would it be safe to assume she's opening for Bey on RWT?

 

Bree Runway was also in Dubai, possibly invited by Beyoncé. There was an article from The Sun a while ago saying Bree, Tems and FLO were among artists she was considering.

I don't think its a given.

Didn't Chloe and Bey release in the same week at some point? I just think her career is being managed independent of Bey, not to say it won't happen but I think she's just as likely to open for someone else and or do her own small venue tour

1 minute ago, *-ChriZ-* said:

Precious Lord certainly demanded a lot of movement

Is that song on Renaissance? 

12 minutes ago, Otter said:

Eh, I haven't written off the Grammys based of HDD

But the way the base flip flopped from "delay the tour so you're fully recovered", to "where is the performance!? Why don't you care about your fans" 

Anyway, I think its likely that Beyonce was including a potential Grammy performance in her rehearsals for Dubai and her decision to perform is still undecided. It'd be disappointing but the main win for us remains the tour announcement.

 

9 minutes ago, Otter said:

The way some of y'all forgot that she was limping last week, not at all surprising if she doesn't want to give a televised performance

Not really a good comparison.

 

A 4 minute performance where she can have minimal movement is clearly not the same as nights on end of 2h long shows where lots of movement is inevitable. 
 

If she could do an hour long show in Dubai she can perform for a few minutes at the Grammys too, limping or not.

 

And she will.

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Just now, Otter said:

Is that song on Renaissance? 

No, but she performed it during ST night and also Plastic Off the Sofa is right there. Im sure she could also come up with a cute Cuff It performance if she wanted to

Just now, AxelFox said:

 

Not really a good comparison.

 

A 4 minute performance where she can have minimal movement is clearly not the same as night on end of 2h long shows where lots of movement is inevitable. 
 

If she could do an hour long show in Dubai she can perform for a few minutes at the Grammys too, limping or not.

 

And she will.

She can have minimal movement but is that how she wants to present the era in its debut televised performance that will eventually be seen by 100m+ people? I'm not sure. 

And the Grammy's aren't paying her 24m, or any kind of contractual agreement 

9 minutes ago, Otter said:

The way some of y'all forgot that she was limping last week, not at all surprising if she doesn't want to give a televised performance

Nobody is asking her to dance on that Grammy stage, please stop with this nonsense. If she could fly her ass up to Dubai and give a 1 hour performance, she can also have a sit down vocal performance at the Grammys.

Just now, Otter said:

She can have minimal movement but is that how she wants to present the era in its debut televised performance that will eventually be seen by 100m+ people? I'm not sure. 

And the Grammy's aren't paying her 24m, or any kind of contractual agreement 

She literally went viral  with her vocals few days ago

Or better yet film a sit down vocal performance from her garden at home I literally don’t care, I am just thirsty for some kind of performance from her… god damn 

1 minute ago, Otter said:

She can have minimal movement but is that how she wants to present the era in its debut televised performance that will eventually be seen by 100m+ people? I'm not sure. 

And the Grammy's aren't paying her 24m, or any kind of contractual agreement 

Well it's either this or no televised performance at all cause she definitely won't be attending anything else this year, especially with a world tour planned.

 

I don't believe it for 1 second she's not performing, Hdi/hdmd whatever were clearly given stale ass tea. She want to surprise us. 

2 minutes ago, *-ChriZ-* said:

No, but she performed it during ST night and also Plastic Off the Sofa is right there. Im sure she could also come up with a cute Cuff It performance if she wanted to

I think she wanted to make a statement based off what was happening in the world at that moment and she'd already toured/promoted ST. I doubt she's interested in just trying to fill a slot, If she can't do what she wants to deliver, I don't think she'll perform.

3 minutes ago, MrPiggyMoka said:

Nobody is asking her to dance on that Grammy stage, please stop with this nonsense. If she could fly her ass up to Dubai and give a 1 hour performance, she can also have a sit down vocal performance at the Grammys.

You guys acting like your fav isn't the same person to shelf entire projects because she doesn't feel good about them. None of this is about Beyonce being forced to do X, Y or Z but how she feels about it.
 

 

4 minutes ago, MrPiggyMoka said:

She literally went viral  with her vocals few days ago

And she literally took the videos down. 

When Beyonce does a televised performance, it's not for the fans...