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Beyoncé

This is part 1 of the Beyoncé discussion.

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1 hour ago, BnPac said:

I was just thinking lately how Renaissance is everything I wanted and asked for during the drought on the music side : I posted here how I loved the transitions in Homecoming and Confessions on a Dancefloor and Ren has seamless transitions.

I wanted her to work with Saadiq and she did on two songs. 

No features unless it's unexpected... Only one song has a feature and it was unexpected

 

Maybe the next album will be Rock/soul as I envisioned. 

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8 minutes ago, Destiny said:

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Forgot about Energy since I see it as an interlude (although one of my faves) but you’re right, still the three featured artists are unexpected. 

14 minutes ago, sillycilla said:

They can wait 20 years to release the movie no one asked for. However cuff it needs a video release . This could be a moment for Renaissance.

Cuff it video with a film release date announcement at the end!! We would pass out 

I don’t get the Church Girl hate. Urban radio and the clubs would eat it tf up. It also the song with the best potential performance, but y’all love Popyonce.

I don’t get the Church Girl hate. Urban radio and the clubs would eat it tf up. It also the song with the best potential performance, but y’all love Popyonce.

11 minutes ago, Destiny said:

The IMPACT! Can’t wait to see this :jonny5: 

 

 

 

Lyrik stepping in to save the era

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13 minutes ago, Destiny said:

The IMPACT! Can’t wait to see this :jonny5: 

 

 

 

Well... They should put their Cuff It video on YTB. :clap3:

 

20 minutes ago, BrooklynBoy said:

I don’t get the Church Girl hate. Urban radio and the clubs would eat it tf up. It also the song with the best potential performance, but y’all love Popyonce.

Its easy: Church Girl would maybe only become a somewhat hit in Urban USA. It would do nothing in other parts of the world.

In comparison, Heated could do just as well on Urban + be a Crossover hit that could do well in other parts of the world.

There's 3 clear singles left in this album (after Cuff It has finished its run):

Church Girl

Heated

Alien Superstar

 

and I hope they all get their chance to shine

Deja Vu came on the radio today and I got emotional quite unexpectedly. I miss that giraffe :'( 

Party is about to hit 100M views on YouTube. That will make 4 her second era with every official video having +100M views after Dangerously In Love made it last week with Me Myself & I crossing the mark. Give it a view. :gaycat4:

 

5 hours ago, Kh-Loud said:

I just realized CHURCH GIRL is written entirely by Giselle herself with ZERO co-writer. Did some gay in her team show her several ATRL threads that lead to that decision? 
 

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What about the dream? 

56 minutes ago, *-ChriZ-* said:

Its easy: Church Girl would maybe only become a somewhat hit in Urban USA. It would do nothing in other parts of the world.

In comparison, Heated could do just as well on Urban + be a Crossover hit that could do well in other parts of the world.

Heated is not going to be anyone’s crossover hit before Church Girl. The chanting at the end of Heated MAKES THAT SONG! Even though the ending of the song is my favorite part of the whole album, in what universe will the ballroom MC chanting cross over?

First and foremost Giselle, give up on Ivytopia. Those clothes are ugly hang it up flatscreen, let’s just skip to the new launch. Second, you think you’re slick posting these old ass photos like we wouldn’t notice these were taken ages ago? 
 

Giraffe is really testing me, I would’ve been fine if we at least got the tour announcement but here we are, with no tickets in site, no visuals, Cuff It smashing, tiffany diamonds, and Ivy park being shoved down my throat! I’m about to get nasty Mrs Carter, even the base lowkey died 

 

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She could have had the best Ivy Park campaign if she filmed just one music video of a track from Renaissance with Ivy Park clothing but Parkwood failed at that too. At this point Bey needs to fire many of those people and start over again. I can understand not being as hungry as before after so many years but there is so much more profit that could be done with Ivy Park, why is she lazy with that too? That seems not smart business wise.  The latest Ivy Park drop was handled so wrong and the designs were not good. It's a pity because they were doing good before. 

1 minute ago, jane said:

She could have had the best Ivy Park campaign if she filmed just one music video of a track from Renaissance with Ivy Park clothing but Parkwood failed at that too. At this point Bey needs to fire many of those people and start over again. I can understand not being as hungry as before after so many years but there is so much more profit that could be done with Ivy Park, why is she lazy with that too? That seems not smart business wise.  The latest Ivy Park drop was handled so wrong and the designs were not good. It's a pity because they were doing good before. 

Her team is excellent. It’s just her saying no to everything 

10 minutes ago, Blue Rose said:

Her team is excellent. It’s just her saying no to everything 

Why did she join Adidas if she is going to self sabotage there too? seems like the opposite of good business to me. It's one thing to sabotage your own music but when it comes to being a partner to another huge brand, shouldn't you at least respect their business and match their marketing? 

 

It seemed a non brainer to me when they announced Ivy Park summer drop would happen around Renaissance release. I was so excited and thought it was a smart move. Instead of delivering a genius marketing of Ivy Park designs matching the album visuals; she keeps the album visuals hidden and the Ivy Park campaign is lazy, production is late on most of the pieces and there was barely a campaign. You're me telling such a simple marketing plan couldn't be done right by her and Parkwood? then what is the point of doing business at all? 

 

I really dont get it man. 

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Can you imagine presenting a genius marketing plan designed by top  strategists just for Giselle to say, NO? :giraffe: Talk to her on a different day to see how she feels 

 

I think she’s stuck not knowing which to prioritize between being an artist or business woman. 

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Unpopular opinion: if only one more song was to be pushed, I would want it to be Virgo’s Groove :sorry:

1 minute ago, jane said:

Why did she join Adidas if she is going to self sabotage there too? seems like the opposite of good business to me. It's one thing to sabotage your own music but when it comes to being a partner to another huge brand, shouldn't you at least respect their business and match their marketing? 

 

It seemed a non brainer to me when they announced Ivy Park summer drop would happen around Renaissance release. I was so excited and thought it was a smart move. Instead of delivering a genius marketing of Ivy Park designs matching the album visuals. She keeps the album visuals hidden and the Ivy Park campaign is lazy, production is late on most of the pieces and there was barely a campaign. You're telling such a simple marketing plan couldn't be done right by her and Parkwood? then what is the point of doing business at all? 

 

I really dont get it man. 

She’s not sabotaging her brand. Ivy Park is rumored to be close to a billion valuation thanks to this Adidas collab. 
This Ivy Park had a big campaign too. They hired all the top super models for it. It’s just that the print was ugly. Who mixes neon and florals like that? Then the alternate is aluminum foil… She also needs to be in every campaign, I dont know why she skips some drops. 

But I agree there were so many things she could’ve done with Renaissance but we got absolutely nothing. 

4 minutes ago, Kh-Loud said:

Can you imagine presenting a genius marketing plan designed by top  strategists just for Giselle to say, NO? :giraffe: Talk to her on a different day to see how she feels 

 

I think she’s stuck not knowing which to prioritize between being an artist or business woman. 

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This is the crazy Kanye vision. I would think she would want to stay away from such thinking and truly do smart business but instead it seems like self sabotage is going on at Ivy Park too. Such a shame because they were doing good for a while and seemed to gain a following. 

So some of the artists Bey paid homage to for Renaissance were Donna Summer, Teena Marie, Grace Jones, Robin S, Princess Loko, The Clark Sisters, Moi Renee among others.

 

Now if we do get a country album, which artists would you want her to pay homage to? Shania Twain? The Pointer Sisters? Dolly Parton?

 

And likewise for rock? Little Richard? Tina Turner? Chuck Berry?

She is not releasing videos.

She is not performing.

She is not participating in Ivy Park campaigns.

She is not dropping tour dates.

 

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Bey is pregnant and her posting those old pics sorta confirms it. I knew the weight gain wasn’t food related. Pregnancy makes sense and knowing her we won’t find out until after the baby is born. 

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