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Beyoncé

This is part 1 of the Beyoncé discussion.

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17 minutes ago, MrPiggyMoka said:

:deadbanana4: I don’t know why this made me SCREAM

It’s true lol. I think in the long run we’ll actually be glad this era played out the way it has. I know in the here and now it’s annoying to not have visuals or a tour announcement. But just look at how this album is already outperforming certain other albums which at this stage did have multiple chromatic visuals and a tour announcement. It’s impressive and may be one of the last Bey eras to give us bragging rights. I mean the solo #1 without a video was already an amazing feat. Just imagine if we can get two of those (with Cuff It).

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2 minutes ago, GodSaveTheQueen said:

What we’re not going to do is act as if Beyoncé doesn’t consistently give new creatives huge opportunities across entertainment. As if she didn’t literally hand people entire careers. As if she didn’t create and entire site dedicated to small business. Like GTFOH trying to portray her as some selfish, entitled, villain. If he didn’t get a shout out, OH WELL. Her even wearing his pieces is massive exposure. And do you idiots really think Beyoncé herself tracks payments and invoices?? OBVIOUSLY there was some misunderstanding or miscommunication somewhere down the line on the part of her style team, but Parkwood would never just not pay someone. I swear Bey has the WORST stans that are just as bad as haters. Like gtfo the base if you’re that pissed.

!! Like y’all are so annoying lmfao

1 minute ago, G'Day said:

:rip:I mean half of PR/Comms is deciding what to respond to and what not to. But she definitely crafted/helped craft that statement that went out about the Right Said Fred debacle. 

1 out of 6 scandal. 2 is you include the “Spaz” situation.

2 minutes ago, GodSaveTheQueen said:

What we’re not going to do is act as if Beyoncé doesn’t consistently give new creatives huge opportunities across entertainment. As if she didn’t literally hand people entire careers. As if she didn’t create and entire site dedicated to small business. Like GTFOH trying to portray her as some selfish, entitled, villain. If he didn’t get a shout out, OH WELL. Her even wearing his pieces is massive exposure. And do you idiots really think Beyoncé herself tracks payments and invoices?? OBVIOUSLY there was some misunderstanding or miscommunication somewhere down the line on the part of her style team, but Parkwood would never just not pay someone. I swear Bey has the WORST stans that are just as bad as haters. Like gtfo the base if you’re that pissed.

Exactly. How can supposed fans literally just ignore the countless opportunities and exposure she’s given numerous artists, designers, and creatives that otherwise would have NEVER seen such exposure. Weirdo behavior. 

Anyway I said this weeks ago, if y’all were to live life outside of stan world, y’all wouldn’t give a damn about the singles, visuals, tours or Beyoncé for that matter. 

14 minutes ago, Shelter said:

P!nk swooped in there. That’s how you do it. 
 

Maybe you’re right. Someone said she isn’t playing Stade De France. Bit odd. 

 

At this point it wouldn’t be unbelievable if her stage building is also delayed. That’s the theme of the era.

Another issue that can emerge is not being able to find enough roadies since there will be 20+ tours next summer. All those workers need to be hired in advance, not at the last minute like Fraudwood usually does

im just thinking of the worst case scenarios right now…

Check nusi instagram stories. The designer is not even mad at Beyoncé, he’s mad at marni and he keeps reiterating that. Your anger over her plan for her music career doesn’t make her company ghetto and a mess and this and that :ahh:

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Just now, bijonse said:

Check nusi instagram stories. The designer is not even mad at Beyoncé, he’s mad at her designer and he keeps reiterating that. Your anger over her plan for her music career doesn’t make her company ghetto and a mess and this and that :ahh:

Everything that happens falls back on her. No one will give a **** about Marni. They will say Beyonce. If that person is really owed then this Marni ****** up for not sorting it. It’s her job. 

Not me coming in here and seeing the amount of people online thinking the visuals had dropped:rip: FFS

Mind you Marni probably paid this designer and the money went to the wrong account or something. Like stop blaming everything on Beyoncé. It’s so weird that you guys are more on her ass than her haters with this situation bc of the music video delay 

You know what. I want to know what Yvette’s salary is.

14 minutes ago, GodSaveTheQueen said:

What we’re not going to do is act as if Beyoncé doesn’t consistently give new creatives huge opportunities across entertainment. As if she didn’t literally hand people entire careers. As if she didn’t create and entire site dedicated to small business. Like GTFOH trying to portray her as some selfish, entitled, villain. If he didn’t get a shout out, OH WELL. Her even wearing his pieces is massive exposure. And do you idiots really think Beyoncé herself tracks payments and invoices?? OBVIOUSLY there was some misunderstanding or miscommunication somewhere down the line on the part of her style team, but Parkwood would never just not pay someone. I swear Bey has the WORST stans that are just as bad as haters. Like gtfo the base if you’re that pissed.

the designer shouldnt have complained about an instagram tag especially when he got a Vogue interview out of it. 
https://www.vogue.com/article/beyonces-renaissance-armor-came-with-an-instruction-manual/amp

 

just because Bey has given many people lots of opportunities and exposure doesn’t absolve her from paying the remaining fees. This isn’t the first time Marni has been accused of this. Im sure it’s all a misunderstanding but regardless the blame falls on Beyoncé. She is the boss. Marni also designs for Ivy Park but Bey gets all the credit. You get the good and the bad. 
 

 

1 minute ago, Shelter said:

Everything that happens falls back on her. No one will give a **** about Marni. They will say Beyonce. If that person is really owed then this Marni ****** up for not sorting it. It’s her job. 

No they won’t because the stylist is not coming for Beyoncé like the other two were. They are specifically coming after Marni and have absolved Beyoncé of wrong doing BECAUSE SHE DID NOT DO ANYTHING. This won’t affect bey even if nusi wasn’t paid like he claims all she has to do is step in and write the check (and probably fire Marni too)

 

y’all are weird on here!

9 minutes ago, bijonse said:

Check nusi instagram stories. The designer is not even mad at Beyoncé, he’s mad at marni and he keeps reiterating that. Your anger over her plan for her music career doesn’t make her company ghetto and a mess and this and that :ahh:

? I think you're confused. No one is blaming B (at least in this thread).

We are critiquing Parkwood's operations (the company Marni is employed by) and B happens to run :rip: It is clear Bey's last minute tendency causes deep issues when multiple industries/people are involved financially. Bey decides to reshoot a video last minute? Cool, but that last minute delay causes Marni to have even less time to reach designers and that leads to payment issues :rip:

We have had 3 sources documenting Parkwood's last minute-ness this era, one of the sources being Bey herself when she said the AS sample wasn't cleared until a mere 3 days before RENAISSANCE was announced :rip: Be objective for once and stop thinking critiquing how Parkwood/Bey operates = critiquing Bey.

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7 minutes ago, Daydream said:

You know what. I want to know what Yvette’s salary is.

12 raw almonds / day

2 minutes ago, bijonse said:

No they won’t because the stylist is not coming for Beyoncé like the other two were. They are specifically coming after Marni and have absolved Beyoncé of wrong doing BECAUSE SHE DID NOT DO ANYTHING. This won’t affect bey even if nusi wasn’t paid like he claims all she has to do is step in and write the check (and probably fire Marni too)

 

y’all are weird on here!

Calling people weird because they don’t agree with you is actually the weird thing. 

3 minutes ago, Machete said:

? I think you're confused. No one is blaming B (at least in this thread).

We are critiquing Parkwood's operations (the company Marni is employed by) and B happens to run :rip: It is clear Bey's last minute tendency causes deep issues when multiple industries/people are involved financially. Bey decides to reshoot a video last minute? Cool, but that last minute delay causes Marni to have even less time to reach designers and that leads to payment issues :rip:

We have had 3 sources documenting Parkwood's last minute-ness this era, one of the sources being Bey herself when she said the AS sample wasn't cleared until a mere 3 days before RENAISSANCE was announced :rip: Be objective for once and stop thinking critiquing how Parkwood/Bey operates = critiquing Bey.

It’s how y’all have been the entireeeeeeeee eraaaaaa. Freaking out about how this and that didn’t come out “on time” when there was no “time” to begin with. She never announced ****. There’s so many expectations placed on stuff and yet time and time again with stuff like this it gets proven that Beyoncé and her team followed all the rules and did everything right and the real problem was peoples expectations. I’m sure that’ll be the case with this situation too

Omfg I take a break and come back to this m***** F****** nonsense .

 

No visuals, no tour, more controversy? Wtf is this era!!!!!!!!! Why does she need the highest bidder, just release a video and move on. The greed is ruining everything as a fan. We can’t even enjoy a proper era.

 

And can y’all stop pretending sitting there and listening to the album for a year is fun and a good idea. No matter how good an album it will get old. And if they seriously don’t release a video for cuff it, I’m over it and want ALL my money back. 

I'm surprised this isn't making the round I thought it would. What is going on? :rip:

 

I sincerely hope everything is going to plan (timing wise). The tour announcement should be interesting, especially on the heels of a Taylor Swift announcement.

Not some of y’all losing your mind over an alleged tour delay, lack of  visuals and another controversy :deadbanana2:

4 minutes ago, Shelter said:

Calling people weird because they don’t agree with you is actually the weird thing. 

Nope! Y’all are weird on here and it’s not because you don’t agree with me about something petty like a favorite song or something. It’s how ppl (not specifically you because no shade i don’t really know you) act about every little decision she makes with her career and blow stupid stuff out of proportion like what single she’s picking and why didn’t we get this on this date or that date. Like, she never announced **** with a set date except the album. Everything else has been rumors and speculation. It’s getting so annoying watching you guys act like she failed to deliver on something she promised and I feel like everyone is swithcing on her because she didn’t meet their expectations with content. I wanted videos the night the album came out too but when they didn’t come I moved the **** on, they’ll come later. 
 

like i keep saying I feel like the videos aren’t out because she wants people to have fun with the fun music she made and do stuff like the tik tok challenges and club renaissance nights, not ***** on forums and lash out on her over stuff that’s not even her fault. 

And I hate how celebs join in on mocking the fans with “y’all ain’t getting the visuals”. Parkwood thought it was funny making fun of those that wanted the FWT. Karma won’t be fun for them.

2 minutes ago, Planet Mars said:

I'm surprised this isn't making the round I thought it would. What is going on? :rip:

 

I sincerely hope everything is going to plan (timing wise). The tour announcement should be interesting, especially on the heels of a Taylor Swift announcement.

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