1 minute ago, supaspaz said:

The way you booted the biggest rap blockbuster of them all still sending me. I bet @MP2K would host that, and might even allow the white devil back in.

 

So which is your top priority? The one where we take Janet to Kinko's?

Any chance to pretend Marsha doesn't exist, I take!

 

I'm fairly open on the order I get through them tbh. The last three I've done since returning from hiatus have required coming up with song selections, so I'd lean towards prioritising doing the albums-based ones personally, at least for a bit.

 

The 2025 electronic albums rate probably wouldn't go ahead until after TW2025 had wrapped up at the earliest, so that can go a bit further down the list. Ultimate Other Janets and [redacted] Makes the Woman would be the preferred ones to do next - in either order! (Job-hunting might also eat up a good chunk of my time immediately post-IMs 2, so shall have to see what there's a gap in the rate market for once I've sorted that out gakgkj.)

I'll tentatively put my name down next to 2023 MtW (if the demand is there idk)

 

I'd consider hosting TW2025 and / or 1998 MtW too but the lineups would have to be workshopped a little no shade.

Other than teaming up with connie, I'm keeping my schedule free to do the Ayumi rate I promised the j-poppers early next year.

 

Spoiler

Still down for the Toni rate tho.

 

I’ve actually never been the traffic cop here, but Ace usually tries to have a mix of albums and singles rates going at the same time for variety. 

Maybe with a revived interest in non-English rates, a 'New' Francophone Wave rate with Angele, Vendredi sur Mer, Aya Nakamura, Clara Luciani, Yseult and whatnot (debut or breakthrough albums in Aya's and Yseult's cases) would have some support.

 

Edited November 16, 2025Nov 16 by Suilen

2 minutes ago, Suilen said:

Maybe with a revived interest in non-English rates, a 'New' Francophone Wave rate with Angele, Vendredi sur Mer, Aya Nakamura, Clara Luciana, Yseult and whatnot (debut or breakthrough albums in Aya's and Yseult's cases) would have some support.

 

I urge you to listen to Klo Pelgag. You will include her in a heartbeat.

 

Vendredi could get the boot

 

8 minutes ago, California said:

I urge you to listen to Klo Pelgag. You will include her in a heartbeat.

 

Vendredi could get the boot

 

I will, but Vendredi has her shooters here at least. Not sure if Clara has any.

 

Just now, Suilen said:

I will, but Vendredi has her shooters here at least. Not sure if Clara has any.

 

Clara is their dua lipa but we already have some of that by including Angele so

 

Also I hope you know Fishbach is a must

 

25 minutes ago, Suilen said:

Maybe with a revived interest in non-English rates, a 'New' Francophone Wave rate with Angele, Vendredi sur Mer, Aya Nakamura, Clara Luciani, Yseult and whatnot (debut or breakthrough albums in Aya's and Yseult's cases) would have some support.

 

Clara clearing

 

3 minutes ago, Ghibli said:

Clara clearing

 

A cute 10 if Ma soeur is included. Otherwise, we sabotage

 

 

21 hours ago, supaspaz said:

I don't really want to sort through that chaos. But I do invite the people who caused it to start building a list of the ideas they actually want to follow through on.

for shits and giggles...since I proposed it, I will cook up something and hopefully I don't lose my mind.

 

 

already back to chaos I see...

3 hours ago, MP2K said:

already back to chaos I see...

We need the LOAP thread back, because every thread in the ATRL Rate Cinematic Universe is becoming a free-for-all

The Queue

 

Block Busters:

1. POPDEMONIUM 2025: The Life of a Showgirl v. Lux v. Man's Best Friend v. Mayhem v. Virgin v. West End Girl @supaspaz
2. THIS WAS 2025: DeBÍ TiRAR MáS FOToS v. Let God Sort Em Out v. Ego Death(…) v. SABLE, fABLE v. Getting Killed v. Eusexua @Eeveelution
3. EMERGING POP 2025: Addison v. So Close To What v. THAT'S SHOWBIZ BABY! v. Fancy That v. The Art of Loving v. TOTAL SELLOUT @MP2K
4. POP FOR THE HEART, NOT THE CHARTS 2025: period v. It's Not That Deep v. Something Beautiful v. Midnight Sun v. BITE ME
5. Name TBD/This Was (Not) R&B: Black Star v. The BPM v. Lifetime v. Through the Wall v. Eusexua Afterglow @conatus
6. Name TBD: Vie v. Alligator Bites Never Heal v. Am I The Drama

Series:

Makes The Woman – (sorted by Year, up for the audience to decide)

1989: Nick of Time v. Heart of Stone v. Results v. Working Overtime v. Foreign Affair v. The Sensual World vs. White Limozeen

1990: Compositions v. I Do Not Want What I Haven't Got v. I'm Your Baby Tonight v. Mariah Carey v. Rhythm of Love 

1992: What's the 411 v. Diva v. Ingenue v. Erotica v. Come on Come On (Mary Chapin-Carpenter, you heathens) v. Little Earthquakes)

1993: Janet. v. ROM v. Debut v. Exile v. Plantation Lullabies

1993 PART TWO: Music Box v. Tuesday Night Music Club v. Fumbling Towards Ecstasy v. Toni Braxton v. Shania Twain

1994: My Live v. Brandy v. Under The Pink v. KM94 v. Bedtime Stories 

1995 PART TWO: Annie v. Faith E v. Faith H. Jewel v. Monica 

1996: Tidal v. Secrets v. Sheryl Crow v. Falling Into You v. Spice v. Viva! La Woman

1997 PART TWO: Left of the Middle v. Let's Talk About Love v. Share My World v. Supa Dupa Fly v. Surfacing

1998: Believe v. Car Wheels on a Gravel Road v. The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill v. My Love is Your Love v. Ray of Light

1998 PART TWO: A Rose is Still a Rose v. The Boy is Mine v. Faith v. Keep The Faith v. Never Say Never 

1999: Breathe vs. Da Real World vs. Kaleidoscope vs. Mary vs. When the Pawn

2002: Stripped v. Full Moon v. Come Away with Me v. Let Go v. Ashanti v. This is Me... Then

2012: Red v. Born to Die v. The Idler Wheel v. Devotion v. Kiss v. Visions 

2012 PART TWO: Unapologetic v. Lotus v. Kiss v. Warrior v. MDNA

 

Makes The Man – (sorted by Year)

1971: American Pie v. Hunky Dory v. Pieces of a Man v. Songs of Love and Hate v. What's Going On

1973: Aladdin Sane v. Goodbye Yellow Brick Road v. Innervisions v. Let's Get It On

2000: The Marshall Mathers LP v. Country Grammar v. Hot Shot v. Voodoo v. Sound Loaded

2001: The Blueprint v. 8701 v. Invincible v. Escape v. Room For Squares v. Love and Theft

2002: The Eminem Show v. Nellyville v. Justified v. Sea Change v. The Rising (or American IV)

2003: Get Rich or Die Tryin' v. Speakerboxxx v. The Love Below v. The Black Album vs. Heavier Things v. Jackpot

2004: Confessions v. The College Dropout v. Smile v. Encore v. Live Like You Were Dying

2012: Channel Orange v. Good Kid, m.A.A.d City v. Kaleidoscope Dream v. Unorthodox Jukebox

2015: Carrie & Lowell v. To Pimp A Butterfly v. Beauty Behind the Madness v. Currents v. Another One

 

Artists:

1. Ayumi Hamasaki @Graves
2. Kesha @SupremeGoddess

Producers:

1. Darkchild @MP2K

Niche:

1. The International Britneys and Gagas @Suilen
2. The Other '90s R&B Girl Groups @conatus @Graves
3. NOW That's What I Call.... UK VS USA: Missing line-up @jacklovesyou1
4. Ultimate Other Janets: Jody v. Karyn v. Paula v. Pebbles v. Vanessa
5. 2000 Neo-Soul rate
6. 2001 Neo-Soul rate
7. Ladies of Lilith Fair 
8. THIS WAS INDIEPOP 2025 PART 1: Forever is a Feeling v. I Quit v. Moisturizer v. Willoughby Tucker, I Will Always Love You
9. Ultimate Other Ladies of Jazz
10. The Rap Blockbusters Rate: The Blueprint v. Notorious K.I.M v. Miss E… So Addictive v. Stankonia
11. State of R&B 2024: Access All Areas v. Bird's Eye v. TYLA+ @MP2K

 

If I missed something, you weren't serious...

Edited November 22, 2025Nov 22 by MP2K

@MP2K you icon! You legend! Thank you! I sincerely appreciate that.

48 minutes ago, MP2K said:

THIS WAS 2025: DeBÍ TiRAR MáS FOToS v. Let God Sort Em Out v. Ego Death(…) v. SABLE, fABLE v. Getting Killed v. Eusexua @Eeveelution

This under blockbusters instead of niche feels optimistic, but still we rise!

51 minutes ago, MP2K said:

Makes The Man – (sorted by Year)

1971: American Pie v. Hunky Dory v. Pieces of a Man v. Songs of Love and Hate v. What's Going On

1973: Aladdin Sane v. Goodbye Yellow Brick Road v. Innervisions v. Let's Get It On

2012: Channel Orange v. Good Kid, m.A.A.d City v. Kaleidoscope Dream v. Unorthodox Jukebox

2015: Carrie & Lowell v. To Pimp A Butterfly v. Beauty Behind the Madness v. Currents v. Another One

On 11/3/2025 at 8:21 AM, supaspaz said:

Some more ideas that would never work on ATRL!

 

2000: The Marshall Mathers LP vs. Country Grammar vs. Hot Shot vs. Voodoo vs. Sound Loaded (just generally ignoring R. Kelly’s existence here and everywhere)

2001: The Blueprint vs. 8701 vs. Invincible vs. Escape vs. Room For Squares (and add “Love and Theft” for shits and giggles)

 

2002: The Eminem Show vs. Nellyville vs. Justified vs. Sea Change vs. The Rising (or American IV)

 

2003: Get Rich or Die Tryin’ vs. Speakerboxxx vs. The Love Below vs. The Black Album vs. Heavier Things (or keep it fully among the rappers with Jackpot or Street Dreams instead)

 

2004: Confessions vs. The College Dropout vs. Smile vs. (ugh, I guess) Encore vs. (do we need to acknowledge country here?) Live Like You Were Dying  or When the Sun Goes Down

 

I know these are dumb, but this is such a fun exercise!

Some more Makes the Man rate ideas that are never happening!

 

Also, please make sure to add Ladies of Lilith Fair to the niche rates list. I need it to happen so bad.

2 hours ago, supaspaz said:

This under blockbusters instead of niche feels optimistic, but still we rise!

This Was series is suppose to feel like MAIN EVENT... or it use to be.

Edited November 18, 2025Nov 18 by MP2K

The finalised lineup will serve blockbuster 

 

6 hours ago, supaspaz said:

Some more Makes the Man rate ideas that are never happening!

 

Also, please make sure to add Ladies of Lilith Fair to the niche rates list. I need it to happen so bad.

added the men

 

Maybe I missed it but who's in the lineups for LOLF again?

Part 1- Sarah McLachlan, Suzanne Vega, Sheryl Crow, Tracy Chapman, Fiona Apple, Jewel?

Part 2- Liz Phair, Erykah Badu, Des'ree, Missy Elliott, Dido?

Part 3- Mya, Monica, India Arie, Nelly Furtado, Christina Aguilera?

 

Are there overlapping releases?

@conatus whatever happened to the bands rate?

 

Just now, Suilen said:

@conatus whatever happened to the bands rate?

 

16 hours ago, MP2K said:

This Was series is suppose to feel like MAIN EVENT... or it use to be.

Indeed. But certain people made us take out all the big pop albums this year!

12 hours ago, MP2K said:

added the men

 

Maybe I missed it but who's in the lineups for LOLF again?

Part 1- Sarah McLachlan, Suzanne Vega, Sheryl Crow, Tracy Chapman, Fiona Apple, Jewel?

Part 2- Liz Phair, Erykah Badu, Des'ree, Missy Elliott, Dido?

Part 3- Mya, Monica, India Arie, Nelly Furtado, Christina Aguilera?

 

Are there overlapping releases?

I haven’t actually gotten into planning it out. I just want someone to host an UOG-style rate with the all the main Lilith Fair ladies! I think pitting the Sarah McLachlan essentials against the Sheryl Crow essentials agains the Jewel essentials would be so fun.

36 minutes ago, supaspaz said:

Indeed. But certain people made us take out all the big pop albums this year!

The people want LUX in TW2025 it's true

 

 

38 minutes ago, supaspaz said:

Indeed. But certain people made us take out all the big pop albums this year!

The Rants of a Tradwife will inevitably clock out before we're even finished with the bottom 20, no matter how many pieces of plastic it's responsible for polluting the oceans with

 

I say do it. Love a common enemy!