smartalek22

Like you do with for example, Britney?

But she already did with 143 which is firmly in the same tier

A certain rapper will single-handedly keep time in business

Well I'm not exactly claiming her to be some Bjork or whatever, but Taylor should know at the bare minimum how to make good pop music, especially with a production / writing team that are still pumping out good music to this day. If she's not living in some delusion she should realise that the discourse shared by many fans to the album should've been a wake up call. This doubling down on that is almost marketing for her better projects like 1989 or whatever. It feels like anti-marketing. If TS13 (when it comes) is truly this level of insufferable then I truly believe she has lost her touch.

Now I just want to start off by saying that I've never been a Taylor Swift fan/stan, but I genuinely have more faith in her as a creative than this. I don't think she's dumb by any means. Maybe she genuinely doesn't care anymore, 12 albums in, she just wants to piss people off at this point with randomly insufferable music (and still maintain some hits like The Fate Of Ophelia, which is a great song). It almost feels like an intentional move to disappoint people before TS13, which obviously is an important number for her and blablabla, even as a nonfan I know this. So would it be safe to say that TS13 may just be the creative / artistic perfection we are looking for. Or is Taylor truly tone deaf on a creative level at this point. What does ATRL think?

Idk I always try and chat and sort of get to know the person first, like I have regular guys I go to occasionally. I guess its like a reverse engineered date, but still a lot of guys on the app like that so

The problem exists all the same with any other producer. TTPD has the same problems.

143 can be enjoyed in a mindless ironic way

We should be past pretending the choice of producer is the problem.

Roulette is miles better than any of these four songs

Some reply above already used the famous "vibez 'n feelz" atrl argument to claim only one demographic lied in the poll

Why would it be pointless? And you can't even compare the numbers directly because the number of straight and non-straight people are clearly much different

That will suddenly become ZTP violation if any celebrity examples are brought up

Them being one example of such doesn't mean the population is all DL By definition any open bi person already does not fit the DL archetype.

Is your sample size exclusively your DL trades?

And what exactly is the difference if they were to cheat with women instead? Try to answer that question without resorting to homophobia

"X complain about Y being discriminatory but X themselves won't even do X either" is such a super common theme in general too you can't even take these people seriously

Trump (Trump's Version)

Need different kind of collab

Lmao did you drop Taylor

Tbh they're the exception to the rule since Taylor was country and local and only really became a global pop star with I Knew You Were Trouble and Ariana was not as big when she debuted until later. The same number of years into their careers, Madonna was already past True Blue and Mariah was at Daydream.

Oh he's gonna have a fun time in prison…

Nobody outside of Dua stans have feud with her

The reach is quite different level and the topic is specifically about stadiums built for big sporting events and their owners with massive influence. So yes, the distinction does actually matter.

Is there even leaks of an new album for there to be a new era to be a new tour?